According to psychiatrist Christian Peter Dogs in an interview on Germany's ZDF public broadcasting system, the prospects for integrating the more than one million migrants into German society are very low. ZDF host Peter Hanhe had the psychiatrist on the show in addition to Focus magazine editor Peter Reitz to discuss Germans’ feelings of angst over the presence of the mostly Muslim migrants in their country.

Dogs said, “Migrants bring huge potential for violence and have different values. It’s a time bomb.” Speaking to the issue of integration by the migrants, many of whom fled war-torn Syria, into Germany’s secular post-Christian culture, Dogs said:

“Integration is impossible in a lot of cases. You can learn the language. But you teach them to become a member of the culture, or learn a certain religious sensibility, or integrate the conviction and least of all the potential for violence. We’re talking about people that have an innate potential for violence, because they have grown up in war. They have learned to fight, they don’t know how to do harmony and to believe you can train them in that is madness.”

ZDF interviewer Hanhe advanced the idea during the conversation that Germans have been living in fear for several years. He asked, “Are we Germans fearful in our own country for violence, terrorism and war? Or is this mood promoted, exaggerated by the media? What is the truth about ‘German angst’?“ The ZDF website had noted that Germany has seen an increase in crime, assaults by immigrants on innocent people, and a growth of terrorism throughout Europe.

Hanhe got Reitz and Dogs to comment on German angst after quoting an editorial published in 2010 by the Derwesten newspaper. “‘We want to be free in Germany and live without fear – no terrorist threat will deter us.’ A strong sentence by the Chancellor [Angela Merkel]. But it is a false one. One is reminded of childhood, shouting as loudly as possible in a dark cellar:’I am not afraid.’“

Psychiatrist Dogs mused about angst, saying: “Fear, in a positive way, makes life into an adventure. He who knows no fear doesn’t live long and not intensive.”

Reitz said:

“We can’t seem to manage to integrate refugees. There is a pressure on the various levels of government, that keeps growing, when one was to warn of this two years ago, that this was going to happen, one would have been truly stigmatised, because nobody wanted to hear it. But it was predictable. Those people, they have a regular, working pair of brains, they knew this was going to happen. When you let in a lot of people, that come from a culture that is hard to integrate, with a religion that is at least unsavoury, that will give problems, big problems. And from the top, from the political elite the signal is given, we can manage that and at the bottom they have to solve it. But they can’t solve it.”

Hahne:

“Yes, yes, and then young men are coming from war zones, backed up by their religion.”

Dogs:

“Yes, and then we are confronted by the dangerous phenomenon that nobody wants to see, that someone’s personality is completely formed around twelve, or around twenty years old at the latest and is very difficult, even impossible to change. Which means that with those young men, an enormous potential for violence is introduced, that is controlled by a completely different set of values, and that’s a time bomb that we have let in, because not only do they not understand our values, we can’t even teach them to them. And even if we could, you can’t achieve much by asking them a few questions during refugee therapy, we’ll just have to accept that.”

Hahne:

“I had [Bundestag vice-president and Green Party member] Claudia Roth here as a guest, she said ‘we make everything integration, with courses etc.’ and that’s just naïve?”

Reitz:

“Yes, without a doubt.”

Dogs:

“Integration is impossible in a lot of cases. You can learn the language. But you teach them to become a member of the culture, or learn a certain religious sensibility, or integrate the conviction and least of all the potential for violence. We’re talking about people that have an innate potential for violence, because they have grown up in war. They have learned to fight, they don’t know how to do harmony and to believe you can train them in that is madness.”
 



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Spero News editor Martin Barillas is a former US diplomat, who also worked as a democracy advocate and election observer in Latin America. His first novel 'Shaken Earth', is available at Amazon.

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