Mary the mother of Jesus was not born sinless!
The lack of knowledge Mary was born without sins is a lie only Jesus had a virgin birth and not born under Adam and Eve sin!Jesus was God , but made himself lower while on earth but there had to be a reason why He had to be born under a virgin birth, and they is a truth not to have the Adam sins every other human being has, from infant on!
Roman 3 is very clear on this unless you are calling the bible and Paul a liar?
Creflo Dollar teaching the world the grace message
Finally I praise God that Dr Creflo Dollar has a very awesome teaching and revelation about the too good news of the gospel of grace world wide, and unbelieviers are getting saved by the millions over the understanding of God grace imputted to us, and he explans why people and religious leaders are against the grace and trying to bring the church under a law system and unbelief!
We call ourselves believers but the evidence and facts we are really following unbelief , and only saying blahh ,blahh, and nothing behind what we speak and preach!
No anointings, no powers, no healings and lack of knowledge has walked in our churchy while satan is laughing at us as we go to our indivisual church play grounds on sundays!
we , need to start believing and trusting God alone and take what belongs to us with authority God gave us!
This is all explain with biblical scriptures to back up this truth all here:http://player.multicastmedia.com/player.php?v=y19x6kxc&catid=47805
There is a four part series on this awesome teaching which is so much truth attached to make you want to get on your kness and repent because of our unbeliefs!wwwoooowwww!http://www.creflodollarministries.org/Broadcast/Broadcast.aspx
My question is why the churches at large is not teaching in any way the message of grace from beginning to end even the gift of grace of our salvation??
I have talk to JW and mormons about grace and found out they don't even teach grace in their bible study even though claiming to have the truth and nothing but the truth!
i think to know if a church is a sect or a cult is to investegate their knowledge on grace!
what is meant by the word made in righteousness
I think this might opem many truth and solve alot of issues and misunderstanding about the good gospel and also who we are in Christ Jesus and about , the do's and don'Ts some say we have to do to get on God side , or get saved, redeemed, justified and holy!
To start I think we know no righteous person will go to hell!
No righteous person also need to go to another pit stop in a limbo or purgatory!
Sin would also not be a issue to an righteous person !
So please my Catholic friend tell me your understanding of what is a righteous person and how do they become righteous and when do they become righteous, also how long please????
Please let it be along the biblical lines according to scriptures like:
Ro:5:17: For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
Ro:5:18: Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
Ro:5:19: For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.Ro:5:20: Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
Ro:5:21: That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
Ro:3:10: As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
I want to see how Catholic put righteousness into correct contexts , sciptures upon scriptures and correct biblica concepts of interpretations of scriptures!
Ro:10:3: For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
Ro:10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Ro:10:5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
Ro:10:6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Ro:10:7: Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
Ro:10:8: But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Ro:10:9: That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Ro:10:10: For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
1Co:1:30: But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:1Co:1:31: That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
Ph'p:3:8: Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
Ph'p:3:9: And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
Righteousness is a gift that comes from the Lord to those who accept what Jesus has done for them by faith (Rom. 5:17-18). The gift of salvation produces a changed heart that, in turn, changes our actions. Actions cannot change our hearts. It's the heart of man that God looks upon (1 Sam. 16:7), and we must be righteous in our hearts to truly worship God (John 4:24).
The mistake of thinking that doing right makes us right is the same error the Pharisees made. Religion has always preached that if we clean up our actions, our hearts will become clean too. Jesus taught just the opposite (Matt. 23:25-26). It's through a changed heart that our actions change. The heart is the issue. Actions are only an indication of what is in our hearts. Actions are the fruit the heart produces.
Modern-day Christianity often puts the emphasis on actions instead of issues of the heart. This is reflected in Christians' excessive efforts to legislate change in people's actions instead of changing their hearts by the preaching of the Gospel. It's the Gospel that contains the power of God, not political action groups (Rom. 1:16). Laws only affect actions. The Gospel changes hearts. Once hearts are changed, actions change.
Contrary to popular belief, Christianity does not promote receiving justice from the Lord. Praise God for that! The Lord has a much better plan. We get what we believe.
Someone might say, "That's not fair. No one can compete with God's righteousness." That's exactly right! However, God's righteousness is the standard by which everyone must be measured. So then, how can anyone be saved? The answer is that no one can be saved, if they are trusting in their own righteousness. We all must have a righteousness that exceeds anything we could ever produce through our own effort. That's where Jesus enters.
Jesus was in right relationship with God as no one else can be. He is the Son of God. He is God manifest in the flesh (1 Tim. 3:16). He is holy and pure and without sin, yet He became sin for us (2 Cor. 5:21), through no wrongdoing on His part. He took our sin in His own body on the cross (1 Pet. 2:24). "Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed" (Is. 53:4-5).
In return for Jesus taking our sin, those who put their faith in Him get His righteousness instead of their own. It's not our actions that make us acceptable to the Father. It's our trust in Jesus that imparts the righteousness of Jesus into our born-again spirits that makes us in right standing with God.
Those who don't understand this righteousness, which comes from God as a gift, become frustrated trying to establish their own righteousness through good works (Rom. 10:3). It won't work. It's an all or nothing situation (Rom. 11:6). We must trust completely in what Jesus did for us to obtain right relationship with God. Any trust in our own goodness will void the atonement Christ made for us (Gal. 5:4).
Let start with this: and lets give our view, opinions, and when you have an open heart, the Holy Spirit will give you a true revelation knowledge on the true righteousness of Christ Jesus given as a gift and not a performance external carnal self-righteousness before men, and religions!
Thank you so very much for any responces!
Please make this part 2 of our righteousness focus on the word (MADE)!
Pope Benedict XVI resigns
I have posted this on another thread but I think this is such a shocking and so serious worl wide observation and historical story to be settled and discussed here!
I wonder now if your pope is backing out of the vatican now because he found truth of the errors of the RCC and coming up with an excuse to back out of the vatican and his calling as the mediator for the church appointed by God, and a follower of Peter who never back out , and stayed in his position until death did him part as a rock or pebbele for the church and body of Christ.
This is not a personal view what the pope of the RCC has chosen but he is making and world wide witness like God made a mistake in picking a too old man to be a pope!
Something is very wrong with a church RCC which claim to be the truth and have the truth and built on a rock, and the gate of hell can't preveal!http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-21411304
However, in today's world, subject to so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance for the life of faith, in order to steer the boat of Saint Peter and proclaim the Gospel, both strength of mind and body are necessary, strength which in the last few months, has deteriorated in me to the extent that I have had to recognise my incapacity to adequately fulfil the ministry entrusted to me.
For this reason, and well aware of the seriousness of this act, with full freedom I declare that I renounce the ministry of Bishop of Rome, Successor of Saint Peter, entrusted to me by the Cardinals on 19 April 2005, in such a way, that as from 28 February 2013, at 20:00 hours, the See of Rome, the See of Saint Peter, will be vacant and a Conclave to elect the new Supreme Pontiff will have to be convoked by those whose competence it is.
My question to this has ever an elected pope from God and the RCC ever done this, and what do you think God who so called elected this pope to know he will do such a thing??
Remember God is all knowing and see's the end before the beginning!
A mass is celebrated and the Pope is given a pallium, a woolen band worn over his shoulders, and the Ring of the Fishermen. The Pope will wear this ring until his own death, when the process of electing another Pope will begin.http://listverse.com/2011/12/02/top-10-steps-in-electing-a-pope/
What will this pope wear as an ex-pope 2013, which should be faithful to wear until death does him part?
I don't recall Jesus giving any of the apostles the option of resigning!
the difference between repenting VS confessing!
I have heard Faith always use the need to repent as a born again christian when you have done a sin or two!
I know Christ died for all sins and the one time sacrifice was done for all times and for all humans good and bad alike!
I also know to get a sin washed away the blood does the cleaning and thier has to be a sacrifice to make the sin have no more effect and stains, so the truth is every person who want to be born again must repent of all thier sins and become a son or daughter of Christ , so they are free totally from the bondage of any sins past , present and future sins is all paid in full 2000 years ago by Christ alone.Only His sacrifice and blood alone can wash away any sins, and Christ did it all.
the problem is that people say Jesus did it all but put a limit on the blood and the sacrifice of Christ till the next time a christian sins, so that would make a christian only have a momnetary redemption, and not the biblical eternal redemption.
Also to mention confession is more deeper than a repentance because it means a speaking out and like putting the sins on a alter to be wasjed away or burned away! we can look back at the old covenenat tabernacle how momentary sins where put under the rug as such through millions of sacrifices of bull and goats which really didn't wash away sins , only Christ did the finished work over sins which will never be seen again before God and cast away as far as the east!
When a christian does a sin they need to confess that sin and close the door of satan the accuser who will aways point you to your sins you have not confessed and put in the light to be destroyed, because all sins is unclean tiny and gigantic ones and they all have darkness in it, that is why confession brings that dark sin into the light to be destroy, but the one time sacrifice of Christ was given to us because God know our unclean nature and how we will still sin over and over again and didn`t want to always put His Son on the cross over and over like the OT people did with bulls and sheeps and goats, so He came with a better toogood gospel way and justification to make His Son blood and sacrifice cover all sins once and for all time which is eternalty so we don't have to beg God for forgiveness and put all that on the mercy and payment of His Son!
The covering of ALL sins past , present and future sins was all activated when we first repented and canme to Christ , the confessing part is what we do after we are born again to show we are sorry for the sins and to use our mouth to bind that sin away because death and life is in the power of OUR tongues, and also that is why Romans 10:9, and 10 is so power for our sinner prayer into salvation as being saved at that moment!
This is why I must ask the question where do you get a fresh sacifice from a new sin you do after you are saved, unless a person is not saved I can see why the merry-go -round hoping and a wishing a repentance would set a religous person free.
I know they do work hand and hand but at differnt time and certain stages!
Why the laws and commandments?
When keeping all the laws does that make us more holy or justify a christian or does it shows we need a Saviour and the laws should be use on sinners and unbelievers and not born again Christians?
Ro:4:13: For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
Ro:4:14: For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:
Ro:4:15: Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
Ga:5:1: Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
Ga:5:2: Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
Ga:5:3: For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
Ga:5:4: Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Ga:5:12: I would they were even cut off which trouble you.
Ga:5:13: For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
Ga:5:14: For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Ga:5:15: But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
Ga:5:16: This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Ga:5:17: For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
Ga:5:18: But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Heb:7:12: For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
Heb:7:13: For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
Heb:7:14: For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
Heb:7:15: And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,
Heb:7:16: Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
Heb:7:17: For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Heb:7:18: For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.
Heb:7:19: For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
Heb:8:13: In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
Heb:10:8: Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
Heb:10:9: Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
Heb:10:10: By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
The second grace message is better!
2Co:3:6: Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
Ro:3:19: Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
Ro:3:20: Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Ro:3:21: But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Ro:3:22: Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Ro:3:23: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Ro:3:24: Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Ro:3:25: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
Ro:3:26: To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Ro:3:27: Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Ro:3:28: Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Ro:3:29: Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
Ro:3:30: Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
Ro:3:31: Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Ga:3:19: Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
Ga:3:20: Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
Ga:3:21: Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
Ga:3:22: But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
Ga:3:23: But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Ga:3:24: Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Ga:3:25: But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Ga:3:26: For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Ga:2:16: Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
The Law does not give life
Ga:3:10: For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
one love faith
Eph1:13 this is why sins can not effect christians
Eph:1:13: In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Eph:4:24: And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
1Jo:4:17: Herein is our love made perfect,
that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.
Ro:5:5: And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.
1Co:6:17: But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
The verse before says the same when we are one with someone else like a prostitute being also one with them, but not meaning one in the sexual act but there is a lustful spiritual act!
1Jo:3:9: Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin
; for his seed
remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
spirit ,soul and body part 2
Really this topic is the most important and best topic to put the word of God and what Paul taught into right perspective, and help to see the truth about so many bible scripture you reject as the too good news, and also will take away your philosophy of when you sin you are a sinner and when you don't you are a saint again, or get reborn again and again after you repent a thousand time to begg God to forgive you!www.revivaldisco.com
Heretic CC doctrine christian is still a sinner 2
Heretic doctrine a christian is still a sinner
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Faith: claim that she is still a sinner saved by grace is the nost dogmatic satanic falsh claim ever believed!
We were a sinner and we are the righteousness saved by grace and a son or daughter saved by grace with faith is the right biblical and christian ührace or confession to be said and claimed!
The nane or any title we carry as still being a sinner is that , that person need to get saved and and born again ASAP!
So everyone here please pray for Faith to stop being a sinner and get saved, and become a follower of Christ!http://mediasuite.multicastmedia.com/playerJS.php?v=n3wa186u
We all do still sins and all sins before God is evil, and there is no good sins period.
Every sins ruin´a whole picture and all the picture is destroy so it doesn't matter how big or small the whole piture is damage or destroyed!
Even though each of us sins in our lives it isn't the desire of a christian to be the best sinner any more, even when we do miss the mark, but a sinner is not even aiming at the mark or target, it doesn't matter to a sinner so being a sinner is an enemy to the cross and to God!
God4me and Evangelist protestant thread pt2
G$ keep up the good work of the true gospel and just try to show love and the grace Jesus gave us that the Catholic can recieve this good be free from their condemnation from rome!
I hope the Catholics and thier church would get saved and accept the eternal redemption , and accept what Jesus did for all man kind once and for all!