The Ebb and Flow of the Church
In my discussions with Alcovey, I got to thinking about something he said.
The teachings of the Church have been fairly stable to nearly 2000 years, but how those teachings are applied in our every day life has fluctuated somewhat. This is especially true in terms of catechesis and the pastoral challenges of the Church.
Alcovey pointed out that early in Church history, the means of salvation seemed a little more narrow. Penances given were much harsher. Today, it seems that everything is much looser.
For Alcovey, it seems that this was a deal breaker for the authenticity of the Catholic Church. For me, I was just grateful that the Church had the authority to Bind and Loose and was thus able to loosen at least some things.
But, recent discussions in the Church show that many are reconsidering the laxity that has evolved within Catholic culture. In deed, over time the Church has allowed sin into her hallowed halls.
The Bible warns that there would be wolves among the sheep in the Church, but it does seem like quite a shock to face it in this day and age. There is a culture of sin within our great Church. So much so that many atrocities were being committed and not even making it up to the Pope (not that past popes have never been part of sin), but many of the sexual abuse scandals were being covered up before the news could make it where it needed to go. There were many who had been perpetrating these crimes who were being supported by other likeminded sinners and rising up the ranks.
Once the scale of the problem became known, there has been a battle to win back the Church from those who would usurp it. One step was to stop the ordination of Gay priests. It isn't that there was ever a mandate to ordain such men in the first place, but it was happening.
Despite being hugely unpopular from a secular standpoint, it did help the problem. Most of the sex scandals did not involve paedophilia at all, which involves pre-pubescent children, but young and older adolescents.
Pope Benedict removed a number of Bishops and Priests from office for their roles in this scandal and lack of cooperation with reform. Pope Francis has a tough task ahead of him to continue this work in cleaning out the Curia and rest of the Church.
A recent article that I read that attributed the following quote to Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI:
As for the new things which we can find in this [Fatima] message today, there is also the fact that attacks on the Pope and the Church come not only from without, but the sufferings of the Church come precisely from within the Church, from the sin existing within the Church. This too is something that we have always known, but today we are seeing it in a really terrifying way: that the greatest persecution of the Church comes not from her enemies without, but arises from sin within the Church, and that the Church thus has a deep need to relearn penance, to accept purification, to learn forgiveness on the one hand, but also the need for justice.
The Church has grown so very large, and sometimes the simplest things do not get shared as they ought to. From the Pope to the People, there are many levels, and when any one link in the chain does not do his part, the chain becomes weak and the message is broken.
Today, not only is there far less penance, there is far less mention of sin from the pulpit.
When was the last time a priest spoke against abortion or contraception during a Homily? It does not have to be a daily or weekly occurrence, but surely there are times when these would fit in with the message of the Gospel.
When was the last time a Catholic School allowed some of the tougher topics to be discussed with its students?
Recently a Catholic school was going to have a priest from the Courage apostolate speak on the subject of homosexuality and the Church's response to it. That school bowed to Gay activist pressure to ban the priest from speaking there.
Many Catholic schools are reluctant to operate within their Catholic Faith, to properly and fully express their Catholic culture. And as a result, many students are falling away from the Faith and are ill equipped to deal with the modern world and all of its many temptations.
Not all Catholics have fallen by the wayside. There are still many who value penance and purification, and understand the need for Chastity as well as Charity. But it has become increasingly rare.
And it is so sad to see how it radiates out. If one goes to attend a Papal Mass in Rome, there is a dress code that is enforced. Women do cover their heads during Mass. Many ancient traditions are upheld. But go to Mass in North America, there are some where everyone is well dressed and others where anything goes. We do have a dress code for Catholics - even when not in Mass, and while it isn't something that priests are obligated to enforce (we should be doing this out of love and respect for Christ as we are members of His Body), it should at least be encouraged.
The Church has the authority to bind and loose, but I fear that too many have taken mile when given an inch.
This is not new, but the Holy Spirit is moving to correct the problems as He always has. In the meantime, there may well be a severe "purification" in the process.
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The Authority of the Bible
There has been a lot of talk about the Bible being the Final Authority and I thought it was time that this be discussed as a topic unto itself. There is no doubt for any Christian (or at least there shouldn't be) that the Bible is authoritative. For Catholics, the Bible is THE Inerrant and Inspired Word of God and it is both Authoritative and Binding upon all Christians. Indeed, it has value and importance for all people, whether they know it or not.
But CAN the Bible be the Final Authority?
It certainly wasn't in the first century. Even among the Jews, the Scriptures were not yet in a clearly defined Canon for the entire group. And the only portion that was universally accepted, the Torah itself (AKA the Pentateuch), was held in equal weight with the Oral Torah, and both managed by an authoritative body to interpret them.
In the First Century AD, the Sadducees held to the Torah only, rejecting all other books. The Pharisees held to a larger collection, but how large is not known. But what is known is that it was not yet settled in the first century. They accepted books, but there had been no official canonization process or declaration.
The Septuagint, used by early Christians, was not a closed canon when it was first assembled, and even after it was adopted by Christians was eventually reduced to become the Old Testament Canon of the Catholic Church. After the fall of Jerusalem, the surviving Jews were still mixed on what should be in their canon. The Ethiopian Jews, having been cut off from Jerusalem, had a much larger collection of books in use, closer to the Septuagint, but with an extra book or two.
The Palestinian Canon of the Jews was not really finalized until about the fourth century, long after they had rejected Jesus, but even so, some supposedly removed books were still being used in their liturgy up to a thousand years after Christ. The Book of Sirach being one particularly beloved book.
So in the first century, no Christian could have the Bible as their Final Authority. It just wasn't possible.
To further complicate things, the New Testament was a work in progress. By the end of the first century, there were many books being used in the Churches, and many more being written and adopted because they were useful. By the time the Christian Canon was settled in the fourth century, there had been over two hundred contenders for the Christian Canon, and these had to be whittled down to create the 27 book canon we have now.
Some books were easy. There were books that merely claimed to be written by Apostles, but were known to be written by others later for their own purposes. Heretics.
Others were not so easy. They were good books written by men of faith. But in the end, there were standards set and a Canon was defined. This canon had 27 books in the New Testament and 46 books in the Old Testament.
The Bible was not buried in a hillside on gold tablets. It was not revealed in a cave. Nor did an Angel bring down a divinely inspired Table of Contents. The Bible was a collection of individual scrolls (granted sometimes two smaller "books"/writings would be combined on a single scroll to keep them safe). The Bible even after it was officially established with a set canon, did not have the authority to set itself, this was done by the Body that had the authority to speak for God on these matters. The Church.
Without the Church, and not just any random collective of believers but an organized body with a God-given mandate to TEACH, there would not be a Bible as we know it today. The Jews do not have a Bible, they have the Tanach. The Muslims do not have a Bible, they have a Qur'an/Koran. Without The Church, there is NO Bible. Just a bunch of letters and writings lost to antiquity.
I have heard it said that once the Bible was written, it then became the Final Authority, and that God could have used anyone to preserve the Scriptures.
Well, God could have used anyone, but He chose to use the Catholic Church. And where in the Bible does it say that the Bible would become the Final Authority once written? One would think that such an important directive would have been recorded somewhere. It wasn't.
So what does the Bible say about itself?
2 Timothy 3:15-17 15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
Well, any Scriptures from Timothy's childhood would have belonged to the Old Testament. But, I for one would be willing to extend that concept to include what would become the New Testament writings as well. But at the time of the letter, no one knew what those books would be. It was up to the CHURCH to decide this.
But most importantly, Paul's letter to Timothy did not say that the Scriptures were a Final Authority, but rather a useful tool. They are "profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."
Nothing more, nothing less. And this is very important because there is much more important information provided by the Scriptures about WHY they should NOT be a Final Authority. The scriptures cannot interpret themselves, and on an individual basis are only as good as the understanding of the person reading them.
2 Peter 3:15-17 15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
It is easy to say that all we need is the Bible, but if that is what Jesus intended, then why didn't HE inspire the invention of the printing press 1400 years sooner? Instead of handing out Bibles, Jesus handed out something very different. Authority. Not to everyone as some imagine, but to those He handpicked to give this authority. And when the time came, He SENT them out with His authority.
Matthew 28:18-20 18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
More important than the Bible, more important than speaking in tongues, more important than secrets and special private revelations is this Mandate that Christ gave to His Apostles to TEACH and BAPTIZE all nations.
Jesus taught His Apostles for three years before sending them out to teach others. Further, He gave them the Holy Spirit to ensure that they understood all they needed to in order to bring the Church to life. Three years of teaching directly from the mouth of Our Lord, and many today think that Jesus just gave every Christian the same authority that required the constant grooming of His own Apostles THREE YEARS to accomplish with His direct supervision. Even when the precursor for the Church was growing while Christ still lived, HE ordained ministers for service. He did not randomly send out people after a few clever speeches to go cast out demons and heal the sick.
Luke 10:1-3 1 After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.
2 Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.
3 Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.
Seventy. Out of thousands that would have been following Him by this time.
And He sent them out with AUTHORITY. His Authority.
Bible? They didn't have a Bible yet. They had the Teachings of Christ directly from the Master. And SHOCKING for some, they were spreading the Good News BEFORE Jesus died on the Cross. Sure, the New Covenant would not come into effect until after Christ sealed it with His own blood, but the Covenant was still being taught and shared with all who would listen.
What is the Pillar and Ground of TRUTH? If you ask a Protestant, many will say "the Bible". Shouldn't the Pillar and Ground of Truth be our Final Authority? Of course. But according to the Bible, the Pillar and Ground of Truth is NOT the Bible, but the Church.
1 Timothy 3:15 15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.
The Church is the Household of God. How AWESOME is that? God's HOUSE. We are part of God's HOUSEHOLD. And apparently it is important to know how to behave in the Household of God, the Church. But many who claim to have the Bible as their Final Authority are strangely averse to any "rules". The Bible has ceased to be a source of information for instruction and correction, but instead has become an object. An Idol. That is NOT what God intended.
I keep hearing people expressing shock and horror and even shame that I do not have the Bible as my Final Authority. Yet, the only reason I do not is because the Bible sends me to the Church. And with good reason, as demonstrated in Peter's epistle.
Matthew 18:15-18 15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
The Bible does not have the authority to bind or loose anything. It merely provides information. Very important information. And when correctly transmitted, it is inspired and inerrant, but still only as good as the understanding of the person reading it.
Further, logic dictates that the Bible has some fairly severe limitations to being the Final Authority. It is reliant on having been correctly copied and translated for centuries by hand. Diligent men ensured that this was done. Catholic men.
And while we can say, well the Holy Spirit ensured it. Did He? I would say yes within the context of the Catholic Church, but history shows that the Bible is not protected from tampering in general. Even in the early Church, portions of the Scriptures were taken and rewritten to suit the personal theologies of heretics. Some "gospel" accounts were written and attributed to various apostles even though they were not only not by the Apostles, but were contrary to the true Gospel.
In the centuries surrounding the Reformation, many sought to tweak the scriptures, creating their own versions of the Bible to match their own personal ideas of what the Gospel should be rather than accept what it actually was. And even in modern times, this still happens. In the Reformation era, the Catholic Church burned corrupted texts, but today, the Catholic Church only controls its own Bibles. Other Bible versions are only as good as the faith of those who created them. The NIV in its initial publication was utterly horrific, swapping out words to better flog the religious ideas of the translators. That version has since been improved, but others have not been - the New World Translation used by the JWs is still wrong.
Will only a few be Saved?
At Mass today, there was an interesting Gospel reading from Luke. It is a parallel to what was presented in Matthew 7. In this presentation, the question is asked on whether only a few will be saved.
22 He went on his way through towns and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem.
23 And some one said to him, "Lord, will those who are saved be few?" And he said to them,
24 "Strive to enter by the narrow door; for many, I tell you, will seek to enter and will not be able.
25 When once the householder has risen up and shut the door, you will begin to stand outside and to knock at the door, saying, `Lord, open to us.' He will answer you, `I do not know where you come from.'
26 Then you will begin to say, `We ate and drank in your presence, and you taught in our streets.'
27 But he will say, `I tell you, I do not know where you come from; depart from me, all you workers of iniquity!'
28 There you will weep and gnash your teeth, when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God and you yourselves thrust out.
29 And men will come from east and west, and from north and south, and sit at table in the kingdom of God.
30 And behold, some are last who will be first, and some are first who will be last."
Not all will saved. In deed, many will not be. We must enter by the narrow door, but many will not be able to enter.
Jesus is talking about followers. People who walked with Him when times were good, ate and drank with Him. In Matthew 7, the parallel passage even mentions these same followers being able to cast out demons and do other amazing wonders in His Name.
So why will many of these followers end up outside the gate where there is wailing and gnashing of teeth?
Because they kept the Commandments? Hardly.
Matthew 19:17 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
John 14:15 15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 14:21 21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
John 15:10 10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
And this is not just something Jesus taught for the Old Covenant. NOTHING He taught was for the Old Covenant that He had come to REPLACE with a NEW Covenant.
1 Corinthians 7:19 19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
1 John 2:3 3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
And while it is easy to say that we do this out of Love, and of course we should, it would be wrong to say that this is optional.
1 John 2:4 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1 John 3:24 22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
1 John 5:2-3 2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
So the problem is NOT saying we must Keep the Commandments. This is one of the defining characteristics of BEING a Christian.
And we also know from Paul that the Ceremonial works of the MOSAIC law - such as circumcision - are against the New Covenant, but not keeping the Commandments of God which even Paul says we will keep.
So if doing what God says is not the problem. And most Christians are not falling back into the Old Covenant ways - except for the Judaisers and some Messianic Jews today, but general not the problem for most, and not even mentioned in the above passage. Why aren't most Christians being saved?
Because they work iniquity, unrighteousness. In the parallel passage in Matthew 7:23, he uses the word for Lawlessness. In other words, these are those who pay lip service - sure they say they believe, and they are willing to take part in all the good stuff, but when it comes to actually standing with Christ, they fall short. They are unwilling to commit themselves to the Lord over their own pleasures.
In Hebrews 12, we are taught to make straight the paths for our feet, and to work hard under the discipline that the Lord gives us so that we are prepared to live rightly and be with Him to the end.
Where are the New Covenant Priests and Levites?
18 For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory.
19 And I will set a sign among them, and I will send those that escape of them unto the nations, to Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, that draw the bow, to Tubal, and Javan, to the isles afar off, that have not heard my fame, neither have seen my glory; and they shall declare my glory among the Gentiles.
20 And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto the Lord out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith the Lord, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the Lord.
21 And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites, saith the Lord.
22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.
When is a sign not a sign?
What a difference 2000 years make. In the Old Testament, they were waiting for a SIGN for the coming Messiah. A SIGN. So that they could know He was imminent or among them.
Modern Christians claim that there was no obvious sign. Many claim that Jesus was just the first of many siblings, so not a sign. That Mary was a plain, ordinary sinner like the rest of us. Sometimes, they make it sound like she was LOWER than the rest of us. Just some common teen that just happened to be picked by God at random at that moment and not from all eternity to be the mother of Jesus.
No sign at all.
Sure, they claim she was probably a virgin, but that wouldn't be a sign unless it was known that she was a virgin. A new mother who goes on to have more children with her ordinary husband, isn't a virgin for the purpose of a sign - everyone but her husband would have assumed that she and her betrothed did what many betrothed did - they tested out the marriage bed in advance. Hardly news. Hardly a sign.
But what did the Bible say? In Isaiah, there were lots of prophecies concerning the Messiah and His birth.
1. She would be a young woman or virgin - Isaiah 7:14.
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
2. She would not be under the penalty of Adam and Eve - Isaiah 66:7
Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.
Jerusalem travailed as she brought forth, but Mary did brought forth and delivered a man child before going into labour or feeling pain. Early Christian tradition has it that Mary gave birth without labour pains.
3. The Messiah would be an only child. Ezekiel 44:2
Then said the Lord unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the Lord, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut.
The language in Ezekiel can be a little confusing, but consider this - if he really meant a building, and that was supposed to be Heaven - then no one could be saved as none will enter where the Lord entered. The Lord, God of Israel entered into the world through a Virgin where no man had been, and no man ever would be. And where the Lord entered the world, no others would follow - no blood or half-blood siblings.
The Bible talks about a SIGN. Something by which we could KNOW the Messiah. Yet today the only signs people want are ones that give themselves glory - speaking in tongues, casting out demons, healing. But when it comes to signs pertaining to the mother of our Lord, suddenly doesn't matter.
Did God Make Impossible Laws?
One idea that comes up a lot is that under the Old Testament God created laws that would be impossible to keep and thus show us that we needed a saviour. Essentially, this would mean that God created the need for us to have a saviour.
But is that true? Did God knowingly create laws that were impossible to Keep?
The answer is in the Old Testament.
Deuteronomy 30:11-14 11 “For this commandment which I command you today is not too difficult for you, nor is it out of reach. 12 It is not in heaven, that you should say, ‘Who will go up to heaven for us to get it for us and make us hear it, that we may observe it?’ 13 Nor is it beyond the sea, that you should say, ‘Who will cross the sea for us to get it for us and make us hear it, that we may observe it?’ 14 But the word is very near you, in your mouth and in your heart, that you may observe it.
So, either God is lying, or there are some modern Christian sects who are merely unwilling to deny themselves for the sake of the Cross that we are called to take up daily.
What I would like to know is when and where did this idea come from? Not from the time of Christ or earlier:
Matthew 19:16-20 16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
Keeping the Commandments of God wasn't hard. Most did it. Sure there was ritual impurity, these were things that we didn't always have control over - childbirth resulted in ritual impurity, so did burying the dead. Necessities, but hardly sin. Sometimes someone would violate a statute, and that would require an atoning sacrifice, but this wasn't a big problem back then.
But today, many find it a challenge. So much so, that they either deny that something is a sin or make excuses as to why it isn't an issue. Creative excuses and creative solutions, but nothing whatsoever to do with the Bible, so where did this start?
The Reformers believed that we are saved by Faith Alone, apart from works (dropping "of the law") to get past the sin problem, but I am not aware of any who though that God created an impossible situation, only that men were weak because of their fallen nature. So when did this change to put the blame back on God for being too strict?
Special Question for God4Me
God4Me, I want a straight answer from you.
Previously you stated that I had asked a wrong question before because you said a true Christian would never sin without repenting.
If a person who professes to be a Christian commits a serious sin but refuses to ever repent of it, is that person truly a Christian or not?
Special Thread for God4Me on Born Again Christians
God4Me, you spend so much time bashing Catholics that it is hard to really get a handle on what you believe true Christianity to be.
You have given some ideas, and I would like to get you to clarify.
I am not in your location, and most of us are scattered so we can't just fellowship together. So when looking for a Pastor, how do we know who is going to teach rightly?
Pastor Eddie Long is easy to find and even if I couldn't get to his church, I can listen to his services on line.
Pastor Long is NOT Catholic which I assume is a plus for you. But he did molest vulnerable young men in his church even though he was married. He has never repented of this action, or gave anything more than a court ordered apology to the boys, but so far not to his wife or his flock. In other words, he did no penance or works of satisfaction for what he did.
According to you Pastor Long does not need to repent or do any of those things as they have no bearing on his salvation. You made it clear before that sexual sin will not cause a saved man to lose his salvation. But, you also said things that suggest that a Born Again Christian wouldn't do those things.
Evangelist also teaches that a Born Again Christian can't sin, so when he does sin, it is only his body that sins and not his perfect Born Again Spirit.
Is this what you mean? That we can sin in the flesh and be saved in the spirit?
Is Pastor Eddie Long Saved?
Catholic Commentary on World War Z
I have to see this movie, now more than ever. I love Zombie movies regardless, but this is more than the typical Z flick.World War Z: A commentary by Fr. Barron (spoiler alert)
I especially like Fr. Barron's relating the zombie disease to sin, and putting the events of the movie into a Christian perspective, and especially his take on the Eucharist.
So many try to get over sin on their own, and when they fail, they come up with excuses as to why this is impossible and why they don't have to overcome sin.
We were never meant to do this on our own. That is why Jesus gave us a Church, the Sacraments, and Himself through those same sacraments.