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| Kamati |
Posted - 07/23/2012 : 08:27:18
We has posters like God4me who publicly declare that they hate what the Catholic Church teaches. Please list some of the Catholic teachings you hate, oppose or simply disagree with. |
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| Kamati |
Posted - 08/07/2012 : 00:22:44
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Originally posted by God4me
Behold they mother, Means "Look at they mother".
Was Mary John's mother????. NO..NO.
One more self-inflicted knock-down. If "mother" does not always mean actual mother and "brother" does not always mean actual brother, then you have no leg to stand on.
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Originally posted by God4me
For the biblical and Greek poof that Mary had other children, See my post, "Mary had other children".
And for one to believe that Mary had other children, such a one must read God4me's post; the Bible is no longer enough. LOL. |
| Kamati |
Posted - 08/07/2012 : 00:06:24
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Originally posted by God4me
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Originally posted by Kamati
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Originally posted by baby3
But did you ever think that only the ones Jesus wants live after death?
The Bible does not talk about "the one Jesus wants", it says dead believers are alive.
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Originally posted by baby3
The very wicked can't rise because they can't be with the good of the kingdom so they stay in the ground till the great day of the Lord!!!
But only their bodies "stay in the ground", not their spirit. "... the dust will return to the earth, and the spirit will return to God who gave it".
catholic spirits don't go to God, They go to hell, As you will find out.
We all know now that God4me is an expert in making claims that make him feel good about himself ... nothing more, nothing less. He has now appointed himself as the supreme judge who determines who goes to hell and who goes to heaven. The irony in all this is that Protestants keep falsely accusing Catholics of teaching that all Protestants would go to hell, but here we see that it is Protestants who actually teach that Catholics would go to hell ... unless they abandon Catholicism as quickly as possible and join any sect in a nearby house. |
| God4me |
Posted - 08/06/2012 : 23:59:00
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Originally posted by michael
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Originally posted by God4me
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Originally posted by Kamati
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Originally posted by God4me
For the Biblical & Original Greek truth, See my post,
"Mary had other children".
It seems you believe that if you repeat a lie as many times as possible someone may eventually believe it. You have failed to name Mary’s other children; we have demonstrated that those said to be Jesus’ brothers have a different mother (Mary of Clopas). But no, instead of considering the evidence you simply hardened your heart even more, Pharaoh-style.
But we may be missing something ... can you tell us why that is so important for you that Mary should have other children? What point are you trying to make?
The Bible clearly says Virgin Mary did not have other children. And that is exactly how it was understood in the history of the church for over a thousand years. Did the Holy Spirit at a certain stage stop guiding the Church or why is it that no single church leader from 100 AD to 1600 AD understood the Bible the way you understand it.
Something somewhere is not right.
For the Biblical & Original Greek truth, See my post,
"Mary had other children".
I can't make you believe it, As you believe the pope's porkies and the catholic con-men rather than the Bible.
Why is there an absolute historical silence on Jesus Protestant made up brothers?
Making a statement does not prove anything you have to have proof.
There is no historical evidence or biblical evidence.
God4me you said James was Jesus brother from Mary Jesus mother but scripture does not account for a 3rd James just the other James'es from other mothers & fathers. Since scripture does not account for a 3rd James anywhere else you are cought in a lie.
The Catholic Church has been around for 2000 years & made copies of the original texts Jesus has no brothers from his mother Mary.
Saying Jesus had other brothers from his mother Mary brings into question his divine birth which is next to blasphemy. I cant believe Protestants are willing to brings into question Jesus divine birth in order to commit calumny toward the Catholic Church out of hate for the Catholic Church.
For the Biblical & Original Greek truth, See my post,
"Mary had other children".
I have given proof, And you catholics have given is, Pure speculation, lies and twisting the scriptures.
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| Kamati |
Posted - 08/06/2012 : 23:58:34
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Originally posted by baby3
Where in the bible does it say that Mary never had any other children we learned this in the Baptist church that she did???
The question is wrongly anchored on the false premise that every thing must be in the Bible – but the Bible itself nowhere makes such a demand.
So, the question should rather be where does the Bible say that Mary had any other children? If it nowhere says Mary had any other children, then the question is: where did the Baptist teaching come from?
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Originally posted by baby3
Paul wrote to Timothy that the church is the pillar and ground of the truth, what does this mean? 1 Timothy 3:15: “but if I am delayed, I write so that you may know ...
It means exactly what it says. That is only a pity that some “Bible-believing” Christians actually don’t believe what the Bible says. Because they de-value the Church, they can not imagine it being the pillar and ground of truth. So they replace it with their private understanding of the Bible ... i.e. their private understand of the Bible becomes the pillar and ground of truth. |
| God4me |
Posted - 08/06/2012 : 23:55:54
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Originally posted by bwellmysoul
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Behold does mean "Look"
And....
Here it is, translated from the Greek:
http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/NTpdf/joh19.pdf
When Jesus therefore saw
His mother, and the disciple
standing by, whom He loved,
He saith unto His mother,
Woman, behold thy son!
Then saith He to the
disciple, Behold thy mother!
And from that hour that
disciple took her unto his own
[home].
Your asinine quote:
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Jesus never gave Mary to John, All He sais was, "Look at her".
Behold they mother, Means "Look at they mother".
Was Mary John's mother????. NO..NO.
For the biblical and Greek poof that Mary had other children, See my post, "Mary had other children". |
| God4me |
Posted - 08/06/2012 : 23:51:04
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Originally posted by Kamati
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Originally posted by baby3
But did you ever think that only the ones Jesus wants live after death?
The Bible does not talk about "the one Jesus wants", it says dead believers are alive.
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Originally posted by baby3
The very wicked can't rise because they can't be with the good of the kingdom so they stay in the ground till the great day of the Lord!!!
But only their bodies "stay in the ground", not their spirit. "... the dust will return to the earth, and the spirit will return to God who gave it".
catholic spirits don't go to God, They go to hell, As you will find out. |
| Kamati |
Posted - 08/06/2012 : 23:40:28
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Originally posted by baby3
But did you ever think that only the ones Jesus wants live after death?
The Bible does not talk about "the one Jesus wants", it says dead believers are alive.
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Originally posted by baby3
The very wicked can't rise because they can't be with the good of the kingdom so they stay in the ground till the great day of the Lord!!!
But only their bodies "stay in the ground", not their spirit. "... the dust will return to the earth, and the spirit will return to God who gave it". |
| baby3 |
Posted - 08/05/2012 : 17:27:46
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Originally posted by smith
"a false church, and wicked men scheming against the Catholic Church and doing much harm–both in her own time and in the future. And actually saw in a vision this, the enemies of the Church tearing it down and trying to build a new one on strictly human plans–but none of the saints would lend a hand. Later, this church of men is destroyed and the saints of God join in to rebuild the true Church of God, which becomes more glorious than ever before".
 Hi Smith what are you talking about?What saints won't lend a hand? Israel is very rich and always begging for help I don't get it do you?? Who saw this vision? B3 |
| smith |
Posted - 08/04/2012 : 18:12:36
"a false church, and wicked men scheming against the Catholic Church and doing much harm–both in her own time and in the future. And actually saw in a vision this, the enemies of the Church tearing it down and trying to build a new one on strictly human plans–but none of the saints would lend a hand. Later, this church of men is destroyed and the saints of God join in to rebuild the true Church of God, which becomes more glorious than ever before". |
| baby3 |
Posted - 08/02/2012 : 12:39:34
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Originally posted by Faith_at_Large
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Originally posted by God4me
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Originally posted by Faith_at_Large
No twisting. The Greek is plain on this matter. James the "brother" of the Lord (that would be Jesus), has different parents than Jesus. Ergo, the "brothers" of the Lord are not blood siblings. Why do you keep insisting on trying to impose your own religious philosophy onto them.
There are three James's in the new teastament.
[1]James the son of Zebedee. Matt 4: 21.
[2]James the son of Alpheus. Matt 10: 3.
[3]James the Lord's brother. Matt 13: 55.
And all have different parents.
James the brother of Jesus, Matt 13: 55, Is Mary's son.
STOP TWISTING THE TRUTH, STOP TELLING LIES YOU NAUGHT EVIL WICKED HELLBOUND WOMAN.
James the Lord's Brother is the James #2 on your list. There were only two Apostles named James, and the Lord's brother was the son of Alpheus, and further this James was also related to another of the Lord's so-called brothers - Judas. See Acts 1:13.
There were lots of James back then, but only two were Apostles, and the Bible takes care to identify which one is which so that we can know what is going on - if a third James was introduced to the mix, then he would have been clearly identified by his father, just like the other two.
James and Joses are also clearly identified as being the children of the other Mary and not the mother of Jesus. Since the other Mary is related to the Mother of Jesus, it is doubtful that she would have named her children exactly the same as any children her "sister" had.
Further, Papias identified all four named siblings as being the children of this other Mary. He may be extra-Biblical, but he wrote very close in time to the Apostles, and he would know better than you who these people were.
That's cut and dry for me:James the Lord's Brother is the James #2 on your list. There were only two Apostles named James, and the Lord's brother was the son of Alpheus, and further this James was also related to another of the Lord's so-called brothers - Judas. See Acts 1:13.
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| baby3 |
Posted - 08/02/2012 : 12:28:55
I believe there is evidence because Mary and Joseph were registered before Jesus was born and how come people can trace their heritage back to the Hebrew tribes etc? Someone is not playing with a full deck and it is in Israel not here they know but won't say because of trouble with the churches and I can just emagine what else they know they aren't telling! |
| baby3 |
Posted - 08/02/2012 : 12:24:41
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Originally posted by God4me
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Originally posted by Kamati
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Originally posted by God4me
James the brother of Jesus, Matt 13:55, Is Mary's son.
James the brother of Jesus, Matt 13:55, is the brother of Jude (Jude 1:1) and Joseph (Matt 27:56) and their mother is Mary the wife of Clopas (John 19:25).
For the truth, See my post, "Mary did have other children".
I really believe this also,that is why Jesus said this to his brother not just a disciple |
| baby3 |
Posted - 08/02/2012 : 12:22:16
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Originally posted by Kamati
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Originally posted by God4me
For the Biblical & Original Greek truth, See my post,
"Mary had other children".
It seems you believe that if you repeat a lie as many times as possible someone may eventually believe it. You have failed to name Mary’s other children; we have demonstrated that those said to be Jesus’ brothers have a different mother (Mary of Clopas). But no, instead of considering the evidence you simply hardened your heart even more, Pharaoh-style.
But we may be missing something ... can you tell us why that is so important for you that Mary should have other children? What point are you trying to make?
The Bible clearly says Virgin Mary did not have other children. And that is exactly how it was understood in the history of the church for over a thousand years. Did the Holy Spirit at a certain stage stop guiding the Church or why is it that no single church leader from 100 AD to 1600 AD understood the Bible the way you understand it.
Something somewhere is not right.
Where in the bible does it say that Mary never had any other children we learned this in the Baptist church that she did???
But the Church is the pillar of truth I do know this.
the church as the pillar and ground of the truthwww.letusreason.org/Biblexp155.htmCached - Similar
You +1'd this publicly. Undo
Paul wrote to Timothy that the church is the pillar and ground of the truth, what does this mean? 1 Timothy 3:15: “but if I am delayed, I write so that you may know ...
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| baby3 |
Posted - 08/02/2012 : 12:17:15
Yeah and they also believed this in Egypt way before the Lord was here,momst of all relikgion came from Egypt and the Lord Jesus learned all of it when he was a child ti;; he was a man.Ancient Egypt has many secrets:) |
| bwellmysoul |
Posted - 08/02/2012 : 12:12:41
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Faith, I was wondering if the church goes along with the Jewish teachings why don't they believe in reincarnation like the Jews do?
Faith is on vacation and will be posting infrequently for the next month.
Reincarnation traditionally is the belief that a person returns as someone else.
Reincarnation in Judaism is not Apostolic.
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Historically, Kabbalah emerged, after earlier forms of Jewish mysticism, in 12th- to 13th-century Southern France and Spain, becoming reinterpreted in the Jewish mystical renaissance of 16th-century Ottoman Palestine.
The Catholic Church rests her teaching on Sacred Scripture, Sacred Apostolic Traditions and the Magisterium.
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p123a11.htm
Catechism of the Catholic Church
"I BELIEVE IN THE RESURRECTION OF THE BODY" from our Creed.
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1013 Death is the end of man's earthly pilgrimage, of the time of grace and mercy which God offers him so as to work out his earthly life in keeping with the divine plan, and to decide his ultimate destiny.
When "the single course of our earthly life" is completed,586 we shall not return to other earthly lives: "It is appointed for men to die once."587
There is no "reincarnation" after death.
587 Heb 9:27.
P.S. Note that the Catholic Church is taking one verse from Sacred Scritpure (which was saved through Sacred Apostolic Tradition) and then through the teaching Magisterium has given us Truth with this simple statement:
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"There is no "reincarnation" after death."
Evangelist, by your man-made 3 verse doctrine standard, you are apparently free to findle with the idea of reincarnation.
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