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| God4me |
Posted - 10/20/2011 : 00:30:13
How does a catholic priest do an exorcism??.
Can any persom, catholic or not do exorcisms. |
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| acumenCry |
Posted - 11/06/2011 : 09:42:24
Yeah, g4 is a tool, but he's not the sharpest one in the shed.
g4, go bake your porkpies somewhere else. They stink. |
| mikejuli |
Posted - 11/06/2011 : 05:44:11
Seems like the conversations used to be a lot better when people like g4 actually presented arguments instead of whining and moaning and pouting. I knew that the pentecostal church, as well as evangelicals in general, tended to be a dumbed down sub culture as it was. But it does look like g4 has taken ignorance to a whole new level. |
| God4me |
Posted - 11/05/2011 : 22:37:07
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Originally posted by acumenCry
Ha. I was hoping for something more original, but that's fine. I'll just start calling you "Never Knew God g4". Fair?
If I am already damned, why should I study... nevermind.
If you knew truth, then you would be free. Also, you would love us. But no, you are still a slave.
No no no, that's not how the law works! You can't just say, "I rest my case" and expect the case to be rested. You must provide evidence to support your accusation, something you have failed to do. You couldn't preside over a case of a stolen bag of Cheetos, much less, the salvation of a soul. Good thing God is our judge rather than pope g4.
I do love the catholic people, But I hate the catholic lies that you teach.
The truth about you losing any chance of heaven cannot ever be changed, See Heb 6: 4--8. And Heb 10: 26--31.
I an free because I do kown the truth, I chalenge you to try to prove any one of your catholic doctrines, And I will prove you wrong by the Bible, WHY??, Because I have the Biblical truth and you have the pope's porkies.
The Biblical truth will always win over the pope's porkies because truth is greater then lies.
It isn't a good thing fot YOU that God is the judge, He has already judged you from the Bible, Heb 6, & Heb 10. |
| acumenCry |
Posted - 11/05/2011 : 14:34:30
Ha. I was hoping for something more original, but that's fine. I'll just start calling you "Never Knew God g4". Fair?
If I am already damned, why should I study... nevermind.
If you knew truth, then you would be free. Also, you would love us. But no, you are still a slave.
No no no, that's not how the law works! You can't just say, "I rest my case" and expect the case to be rested. You must provide evidence to support your accusation, something you have failed to do. You couldn't preside over a case of a stolen bag of Cheetos, much less, the salvation of a soul. Good thing God is our judge rather than pope g4. |
| God4me |
Posted - 11/05/2011 : 13:45:45
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Originally posted by acumenCry
And no, I was brainwashed Evangelical, not Catholic.
Only after waking from that spell did I consider Catholicism. The more I study the Bible and the writings of the Church Fathers, the closer I get to Rome, but I still have much respect and love for my old church which taught me to fear God, the beginning of all things, along with all the basics; however, I cant help but see the fullness of the faith in the Catholic Church.
The difference between you and I is that I read, study and test everything from all angles and viewpoints, whereas, you see through a narrow and clouded lense. You are never wrong. I am almost always wrong. The more I study, the less I know. The more you study, the more you convince yourself that everything supports your theology.
If you can prove the Catholic Church is wrong, then I will accept that. But you don't seem to be able to. Though your "evidence" is sufficient for you, it fails when weighed against Catholic teachings of Scripture.
No papist brainwashing here. God simply blesses some of us with an open mind and the willingness to admit when we are wrong.
So your another one like "Missed heaven mike", You have blown your only chance of salvation.
I'll have to start calling you, "Missed heaven acumencry".
May I surgest that you study the truth next time you study.
Because if you study the truth, You'll find out how wrong catholics are.
I have proved the catholics church wrong many times on this forum.
STOP TELLLING LIES.
Your doctrines aren't in the Bible. I REST MY CASE. |
| acumenCry |
Posted - 11/05/2011 : 07:23:21
And no, I was brainwashed Evangelical, not Catholic.
Only after waking from that spell did I consider Catholicism. The more I study the Bible and the writings of the Church Fathers, the closer I get to Rome, but I still have much respect and love for my old church which taught me to fear God, the beginning of all things, along with all the basics; however, I cant help but see the fullness of the faith in the Catholic Church.
The difference between you and I is that I read, study and test everything from all angles and viewpoints, whereas, you see through a narrow and clouded lense. You are never wrong. I am almost always wrong. The more I study, the less I know. The more you study, the more you convince yourself that everything supports your theology.
If you can prove the Catholic Church is wrong, then I will accept that. But you don't seem to be able to. Though your "evidence" is sufficient for you, it fails when weighed against Catholic teachings of Scripture.
No papist brainwashing here. God simply blesses some of us with an open mind and the willingness to admit when we are wrong. |
| God4me |
Posted - 11/05/2011 : 06:00:41
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Originally posted by mikejuli
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Originally posted by God4me
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Originally posted by mikejuli
Sorry. I guess it was hard to hear your proclamation of good news in the midst of all the accusations and damning comments. thank goodness the Catholics here carried the weight for you.
The words I teach are fron the Bible, And the Bible does damn those who don't believe, And catholics are damned because they don't believe the Bible, They believe the pope's porkies.
You are getting my accusations mixed up with the truth.
The only weight the catholics carry, Is the weight of their sins into hell.
so were the words of jim jones and david koresh... just piping out some scripture verses that seem to fit in to your scheme isn't what constitutes true biblical interpretation g4. that is the porkie that you continue to choke yourself on. it has gagged you. and don't worry, i don't think anyone here is getting your accusations mixed up with the truth.. except you of course. 
this is the truth.. catholics do believe the bible.. after all it is the primary part of their tradition.. it is a collection of books that they not only affirmed and collected but also preserved. your bible is missing a few books, (because you believed some protestant porkies) and for all that its just a rip off of the churches book anyway. you have no more right to interpret it than the jw knocking on my door.. (i let them know the same thing).
the problem, which no non catholic really wants to address is that because they have no sacred tradition (ie the holy spirit guiding their church) but rather believe in private interpretation, (which is basically claiming personal infalliblity) they have made themselves each their own pope... now that wouldn't be a bad thing if they all agreed. but the fact is that they don't. they split, argue, come up with a myraid of new doctrines, beliefs, taboos, rules, regs.. and there is simply no consistency. the catholic church on the other hand, has maintained consistency and unity.. which is proof enough where the holy spirit is at.
catholics don't believe the Bible..STOP TELLING LIES.. They believe the pope's porkies.
The Holy Spirit does guide the True born again Churches,.
STOP TELLING LIES.
It is the catholic church that the Holy Spirit doesn't guide.
They are guided by the devil.
All Christian Churches believe the basic funamentles of the Bible, Such as salvation.
But unlike catholic, proestant churches have a free will to believe what they want.
the catholics have to believe the pope's porkies, They are a load of rpbotic parrots. |
| acumenCry |
Posted - 11/05/2011 : 05:59:48
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Originally posted by God4me
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Originally posted by acumenCry
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Originally posted by God4me
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Originally posted by acumenCry
You have not proven any claim that you have made. Your foundation crumbles in light of the Holy Scriptures.
I don't believe the pope's porkies. I guess you could say I believe the Church Fathers' porkies, Paul's porkies, Peter's porkies, James' porkies, etc.
[1]You are either blind or down right dishonst, Becaue I have given you Bible scriptures that prove catholic wron.
[2]You do believe the pope's porkies.STOP TELLING LIES.
[3]You don't believe Paul, James or Peter..STOP TELLING LIES.
You DO believe the pope's porkies about Peter, Paul and James.
That's funny. I don't recall ever reading any papal writings on Peter, Paul or James; however, I have read and do read the Bible. I believe it.
But no, the pope has never told me any lies about them. I think that makes you the liar.
You don't believe the Bible.. STOP TELLING LIES.
It's imposible to believe the Bible and the catholic teaching, You either believe the Bible or the catholic teachings.
The pope does tell lies.STOP TELLING LIES.
I stated that nothing I know about Peter, Paul or James came from the pope. I know (and God knows) that I am telling the truth.
You said the pope is my information source. You are lying. Do you need my little niece to tutor you on the basics? |
| acumenCry |
Posted - 11/05/2011 : 05:56:35
All translations have "your" in the text.
Yes, homologeo means "to say the same thing", "to agree, admit, acknowledge." In confession, one agrees, admits and acknowledges one's sins.
All translations I have read besides the KJV say "sins". Faults do not exclude sins. The Greek paraptoma can have the same force as hamartia.
Of course, you repent, g4. Confess, repent, be baptized... these are all part of "accepting Jesus' sacrifice". Did you only repent without accepting Jesus? Or rather, did you not truly repent? The forgiveness is impossible without the blood of Jesus at Calvary. I go all the way for my Lord. |
| mikejuli |
Posted - 11/05/2011 : 05:09:06
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Originally posted by God4me
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Originally posted by mikejuli
Sorry. I guess it was hard to hear your proclamation of good news in the midst of all the accusations and damning comments. thank goodness the Catholics here carried the weight for you.
The words I teach are fron the Bible, And the Bible does damn those who don't believe, And catholics are damned because they don't believe the Bible, They believe the pope's porkies.
You are getting my accusations mixed up with the truth.
The only weight the catholics carry, Is the weight of their sins into hell.
so were the words of jim jones and david koresh... just piping out some scripture verses that seem to fit in to your scheme isn't what constitutes true biblical interpretation g4. that is the porkie that you continue to choke yourself on. it has gagged you. and don't worry, i don't think anyone here is getting your accusations mixed up with the truth.. except you of course.
this is the truth.. catholics do believe the bible.. after all it is the primary part of their tradition.. it is a collection of books that they not only affirmed and collected but also preserved. your bible is missing a few books, (because you believed some protestant porkies) and for all that its just a rip off of the churches book anyway. you have no more right to interpret it than the jw knocking on my door.. (i let them know the same thing).
the problem, which no non catholic really wants to address is that because they have no sacred tradition (ie the holy spirit guiding their church) but rather believe in private interpretation, (which is basically claiming personal infalliblity) they have made themselves each their own pope... now that wouldn't be a bad thing if they all agreed. but the fact is that they don't. they split, argue, come up with a myraid of new doctrines, beliefs, taboos, rules, regs.. and there is simply no consistency. the catholic church on the other hand, has maintained consistency and unity.. which is proof enough where the holy spirit is at. |
| God4me |
Posted - 11/05/2011 : 01:54:48
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Originally posted by acumenCry
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Originally posted by God4me
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Originally posted by acumenCry
You have not proven any claim that you have made. Your foundation crumbles in light of the Holy Scriptures.
I don't believe the pope's porkies. I guess you could say I believe the Church Fathers' porkies, Paul's porkies, Peter's porkies, James' porkies, etc.
[1]You are either blind or down right dishonst, Becaue I have given you Bible scriptures that prove catholic wron.
[2]You do believe the pope's porkies.STOP TELLING LIES.
[3]You don't believe Paul, James or Peter..STOP TELLING LIES.
You DO believe the pope's porkies about Peter, Paul and James.
That's funny. I don't recall ever reading any papal writings on Peter, Paul or James; however, I have read and do read the Bible. I believe it.
But no, the pope has never told me any lies about them. I think that makes you the liar.
You don't believe the Bible.. STOP TELLING LIES.
It's imposible to believe the Bible and the catholic teaching, You either believe the Bible or the catholic teachings.
The pope does tell lies.STOP TELLING LIES. |
| God4me |
Posted - 11/05/2011 : 01:50:32
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Originally posted by acumenCry
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Originally posted by God4me
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Originally posted by acumenCry
I second that. G4, you are showing your ignorance of what the Catholic Church teaches once again. You claim to know what they teach, and that's why you have the right to judge them, but we both know that's a big porky, don't we?
The OSAS heresy is much worse than your unfounded perception of confession.
There you go again..TELLING LIES.
You know as well as I do that the catholic way of confession and penance isn't in the Bible.
Yet you srill do this sinful act.
Nope. Wrong again.
James tells us to confess our sins to one another. Some churches have you confess before the entire congregation, but I don't agree with that. I think the Catholic tradition has it right. And no, the pope didn't tell me that either.
Let's see, Jesus tells the Apostles that if they forgive a person's sins, that person is forgiven and that likewise, if they do not forgive the sins, they are not forgiven. Does that mean if we do not forgive someone, they go to hell? I hope not, because we would all go to hell if that were the case. No, Jesus was talking to his Apostles. It appears he gave them the oh-so-controversial power he received from God the Father. This was after Jesus gave Peter the keys to the kingdom, remember?
When I accepted Jesus' sacrifice, my sins were forgiven, but this does not mean all my sins since then are forgiven. That would be a license to sin. Can you show me 2 verses (I'm sorry, witnesses) that suggest otherwise?
Speaking of two witnesses, you have more than that on this forum who acknowledge that you have been bearing false witness. Not good.
With that being said, I have never been to confession. But I do look forward to it (and much more, to what comes after my reconciliation). Many people confess to God personally and "repent" yet continue to hold the weight of their sin on their shoulders. In C.S. Lewis' "The Screwtape Letters", the demon refers to this as thinking you are praying to God while actually praying to the erroneous image you have given him. I do not claim the power to judge souls as you do, but based on your attitude, your soul seems to be burdened by sin. Perhaps you need to heed James's words and confess, though I doubt your ego will allow you to admit your sin/fallibility to a fellow fallible man. Almighty pseudo-pope g4 and his poor reading comprehension (which he mistakes for the Holy Spirit) is never wrong.
James doesn't tell us to confess our sins,..STOP TELLING LIES.
He said confess faults one to another...PLEASE NOTE, there is no,"YOUR". in the text.
A fault could be anything other then faults wrong with people.
Nowher are we told to confess sins to a man.
[1]PLEASE NOTE. James says, "To one another" [The whole church] Not confess just to one man..STOP TELLING LIES.
The Greek meaning for "Confession" is, To agree,
James was saying.
"Lets agree that we have a problem and lets pray about it".
AS I said, It doesn't mean sin.
[2]You would think the catholic way is right, Thats because you have been brainwashed by the pope's porkies.
[3]Jesus never told the disciples to remit sins, You have to put scriptures in the right context with the whole Bible.
You have to link Jn 20: 23 with Lk 24: 47.
When the people repent, You can tell them their sins are forgiven.
Any Christian can lead a sinner to Christ and tell them their sins are forgiven.
[4]Jesus didn't just tell His Apostles,..STOP TELLING LIES.
Jn 20: 19-23, Proves that Jesus was talking to ALL His disciples.
That means any Christian can tell a repentant person thier sins are forgiven.
YOU CATHOLICS DON'T HALF TWIST THE SCRIPTURES.
[5]Accepting Jesus sacrifice doesn't rimit your sins.
The Bible says, "Repent" for the remision of sins.
Repent means to turn from you old life and turn to Jesus through the Biblical rebirth.
A born again Christian is ALREADY reconciled to God. |
| acumenCry |
Posted - 11/04/2011 : 15:12:28
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Originally posted by God4me
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Originally posted by acumenCry
I second that. G4, you are showing your ignorance of what the Catholic Church teaches once again. You claim to know what they teach, and that's why you have the right to judge them, but we both know that's a big porky, don't we?
The OSAS heresy is much worse than your unfounded perception of confession.
There you go again..TELLING LIES.
You know as well as I do that the catholic way of confession and penance isn't in the Bible.
Yet you srill do this sinful act.
Nope. Wrong again.
James tells us to confess our sins to one another. Some churches have you confess before the entire congregation, but I don't agree with that. I think the Catholic tradition has it right. And no, the pope didn't tell me that either.
Let's see, Jesus tells the Apostles that if they forgive a person's sins, that person is forgiven and that likewise, if they do not forgive the sins, they are not forgiven. Does that mean if we do not forgive someone, they go to hell? I hope not, because we would all go to hell if that were the case. No, Jesus was talking to his Apostles. It appears he gave them the oh-so-controversial power he received from God the Father. This was after Jesus gave Peter the keys to the kingdom, remember?
When I accepted Jesus' sacrifice, my sins were forgiven, but this does not mean all my sins since then are forgiven. That would be a license to sin. Can you show me 2 verses (I'm sorry, witnesses) that suggest otherwise?
Speaking of two witnesses, you have more than that on this forum who acknowledge that you have been bearing false witness. Not good.
With that being said, I have never been to confession. But I do look forward to it (and much more, to what comes after my reconciliation). Many people confess to God personally and "repent" yet continue to hold the weight of their sin on their shoulders. In C.S. Lewis' "The Screwtape Letters", the demon refers to this as thinking you are praying to God while actually praying to the erroneous image you have given him. I do not claim the power to judge souls as you do, but based on your attitude, your soul seems to be burdened by sin. Perhaps you need to heed James's words and confess, though I doubt your ego will allow you to admit your sin/fallibility to a fellow fallible man. Almighty pseudo-pope g4 and his poor reading comprehension (which he mistakes for the Holy Spirit) is never wrong. |
| acumenCry |
Posted - 11/04/2011 : 13:18:49
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Originally posted by God4me
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Originally posted by acumenCry
You have not proven any claim that you have made. Your foundation crumbles in light of the Holy Scriptures.
I don't believe the pope's porkies. I guess you could say I believe the Church Fathers' porkies, Paul's porkies, Peter's porkies, James' porkies, etc.
[1]You are either blind or down right dishonst, Becaue I have given you Bible scriptures that prove catholic wron.
[2]You do believe the pope's porkies.STOP TELLING LIES.
[3]You don't believe Paul, James or Peter..STOP TELLING LIES.
You DO believe the pope's porkies about Peter, Paul and James.
That's funny. I don't recall ever reading any papal writings on Peter, Paul or James; however, I have read and do read the Bible. I believe it.
But no, the pope has never told me any lies about them. I think that makes you the liar. |
| Faith_at_Large |
Posted - 11/04/2011 : 11:42:54
You have not provided any scriptures that prove the Catholic Church to be wrong. You have refused to answer any questions regarding your own religion that did not originate from the Catholic Church. |
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