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| God4me |
Posted - 03/26/2012 : 00:46:15
Catholics preach another gospel to the one Paul taught.
1)Paul teaches justification by faith alone.
Rom 3: 20-31. Rom 4: 6. Rom 5: 1.
The catholics teach,...Faith and WORKS.
That is, ANOTHER GOSPEL,
And catholics are accurssed, [Destroyed, unredeemable].
2)Paul Teaches saved by faith alone.
Eph 2: 8-9. Titus 3: 5.
The catholics teach,...Faith and works.
That is, ANOTHER GOSPEL.
And catholics are Accursed, [destroyed unredeemable].
3) Paul knew from personal experience that water baptism didn't save him, And that water baptism doesn't save.
Acts 9: 6 was Pauls conversion, [Salvation, rebirth].
Acts 9: 9, Was three days later.
Acts 9: 17, At least three days after Paul was saved, He was baptised in the Holy Ghost.
And that was before he was baptised in water.
He told the Corinthian Church it was through his Ministry that they were born again, But he also said he didn't baptised them.
If Paul thought baptism saves, He would have said, I got you born again because it was me who baptised you.
But he didn't say that..DID HE??...NO.
So Paul teaches that water baptisn doesn't save.
The catholics teach salvation and regeneration,through water baptism.
That is, ANOTHER GOSPEL.
And catholics are Accursed, [Destroyed,unredeemable].
Gal 1: 8--9 applies to the catholics..AND THAT IS A FACT THAT YOU CANNOT DENY. |
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| baby3 |
Posted - 04/22/2012 : 17:39:38
Right it is in the bible,he never came to change one diddle of the law which he kept and his disciples kept and went to the synagogue and prayed.Jesus didn't want us to be like the scribes and Pharisees and over do their days and celebrations they were thieves and false prophets and wolves in sheep's clothing and he warned about this in the latter days to.B3 |
| Faith_at_Large |
Posted - 04/20/2012 : 14:37:35
Amen. To fulfil the Law, to perfect it. |
| baby3 |
Posted - 04/20/2012 : 14:23:24
Jesus never came to change the laws but to reinforce them with his blood covering and his great love! |
| Faith_at_Large |
Posted - 04/20/2012 : 13:53:18
Yes, and upon the two Great Commandments of God hang the whole of the Law, Jesus said so. This is in the New Testament.
And as I said in my post, the Ten Commandments are still in effect in the New Covenant - Jesus and Paul both confirmed this explicitly. |
| God4me |
Posted - 04/20/2012 : 12:58:40
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Originally posted by Faith_at_Large
In what way is any Catholic under the OT Law? We don't require circumcision, we don't offer animal sacrifices, we don't mark the various religious feasts of the Jews other than Passover, and even that is only because Jesus became our Passover Sacrifice.
Other than the Ten Commandments which Jesus and Paul both affirmed were still in effect, what OT Law do Catholics keep?
The ten commandments were under the law of the OT, We [Christians] have a new comandment, "Love", Which keeps all God's commandments.
If I love, I will keep all the commandments of God. |
| Faith_at_Large |
Posted - 04/20/2012 : 12:45:18
In what way is any Catholic under the OT Law? We don't require circumcision, we don't offer animal sacrifices, we don't mark the various religious feasts of the Jews other than Passover, and even that is only because Jesus became our Passover Sacrifice.
Other than the Ten Commandments which Jesus and Paul both affirmed were still in effect, what OT Law do Catholics keep? |
| God4me |
Posted - 04/20/2012 : 12:27:38
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Originally posted by bwellmysoul
That's your answer? Then apparently, in your denomination "Keeping the Lord's Day Holy" is an Old Covenant Commandment. Attendance is optional. A very Protestant ideal.
The Communial Marriage Feast of the Lamb is here on Earth as it will be in Heaven. Jesus' Covenant begins here on Earth in Communion with us through His Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity in the Eucharist. That is why Mass isn't optional for Catholics.
1)Every day is Holy to a Christian.
You are still under the law of the OT,But Jesus gave us a new commandment, "LOVE", And love will fulfill all the commandments of God.
2)Where does the Bible say the mariage feast is on the earth??.
3)where does the Bible say the eucharist becomes Jesus's flesh and blood???. |
| bwellmysoul |
Posted - 04/20/2012 : 09:58:21
That's your answer? Then apparently, in your denomination "Keeping the Lord's Day Holy" is an Old Covenant Commandment. Attendance is optional. A very Protestant ideal.
The Communial Marriage Feast of the Lamb is here on Earth as it will be in Heaven. Jesus' Covenant begins here on Earth in Communion with us through His Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity in the Eucharist. That is why Mass isn't optional for Catholics. |
| God4me |
Posted - 04/20/2012 : 09:14:29
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Originally posted by bwellmysoul
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Originally posted by God4me
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Originally posted by bwellmysoul
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Originally posted by God4me
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Originally posted by bwellmysoul
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)You have no right to take communion if you have sin in your life, You should stay at home, Or get right with God before you leave home.
Interesting you mention that.
Is it still a Commandment in your denomination to attend services on Sunday?
Or is that just another part of the "Old Covenant" that Protestantism again twisted for their own convenience.
We love to go to Church, Because we love Jesus, And we never know what God is going to do in our servised.
I love to attend Mass as well. Because I know that Jesus is there - as He said 2,000 years ago that He would be; and that He is offering Himself to us in the marriage supper of the Lamb.
But, that's not the question I asked.
I asked about whether of not your denomination believes that the 3rd Commandment is optional - that it belongs in the Old Covenant.
In other words, are lukewarm and cold Pentecostals attending services on Sunday, in accordance with the 3rd Commandment?
1)Jesus doesn't go to a catholic mass, He doesn't actknowledge the catholic church.
2)The mariage feast is in heaven during the tribulation period, Not in a catholic church today.
3)How would I know if cold or lukewarm Christians go to Church on a sunday, I have always loved the Lord and love going to Church.
And so have the people in my Church.
Sounds like you're taking the part of Trinity. Determining what they do. Takes quite an enormous ego to determine what God does.
You continue to avoid my question on the 3rd Commandment. Should I assume that in your denomination the 3rd Commandment is optional? And part of that Old Covenant?
P.S. In the fullness of faith, Sacred Scripture is brought to realization in the Eucharist.
When Communion stops being a symbol or only a representation of a supper.
Mt 26:28 "This is my blood of the covenant." ..... Rev 19:9 "Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb." ...
The marriage feast of the Lamb is "on earth as it is in heaven".
1)I don't see what the 3rd commandment has to do with going to Church or not.
2)The actual mariage feast is in heaven, NOT ON EARTH. |
| bwellmysoul |
Posted - 04/20/2012 : 06:55:08
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Originally posted by God4me
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Originally posted by bwellmysoul
quote:
Originally posted by God4me
quote:
Originally posted by bwellmysoul
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)You have no right to take communion if you have sin in your life, You should stay at home, Or get right with God before you leave home.
Interesting you mention that.
Is it still a Commandment in your denomination to attend services on Sunday?
Or is that just another part of the "Old Covenant" that Protestantism again twisted for their own convenience.
We love to go to Church, Because we love Jesus, And we never know what God is going to do in our servised.
I love to attend Mass as well. Because I know that Jesus is there - as He said 2,000 years ago that He would be; and that He is offering Himself to us in the marriage supper of the Lamb.
But, that's not the question I asked.
I asked about whether of not your denomination believes that the 3rd Commandment is optional - that it belongs in the Old Covenant.
In other words, are lukewarm and cold Pentecostals attending services on Sunday, in accordance with the 3rd Commandment?
1)Jesus doesn't go to a catholic mass, He doesn't actknowledge the catholic church.
2)The mariage feast is in heaven during the tribulation period, Not in a catholic church today.
3)How would I know if cold or lukewarm Christians go to Church on a sunday, I have always loved the Lord and love going to Church.
And so have the people in my Church.
Sounds like you're taking the part of Trinity. Determining what they do. Takes quite an enormous ego to determine what God does.
You continue to avoid my question on the 3rd Commandment. Should I assume that in your denomination the 3rd Commandment is optional? And part of that Old Covenant?
P.S. In the fullness of faith, Sacred Scripture is brought to realization in the Eucharist.
When Communion stops being a symbol or only a representation of a supper.
Mt 26:28 "This is my blood of the covenant." ..... Rev 19:9 "Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb." ...
The marriage feast of the Lamb is "on earth as it is in heaven".
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| God4me |
Posted - 04/20/2012 : 00:13:42
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Originally posted by bwellmysoul
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Originally posted by God4me
quote:
Originally posted by bwellmysoul
quote:
)You have no right to take communion if you have sin in your life, You should stay at home, Or get right with God before you leave home.
Interesting you mention that.
Is it still a Commandment in your denomination to attend services on Sunday?
Or is that just another part of the "Old Covenant" that Protestantism again twisted for their own convenience.
We love to go to Church, Because we love Jesus, And we never know what God is going to do in our servised.
I love to attend Mass as well. Because I know that Jesus is there - as He said 2,000 years ago that He would be; and that He is offering Himself to us in the marriage supper of the Lamb.
But, that's not the question I asked.
I asked about whether of not your denomination believes that the 3rd Commandment is optional - that it belongs in the Old Covenant.
In other words, are lukewarm and cold Pentecostals attending services on Sunday, in accordance with the 3rd Commandment?
1)Jesus doesn't go to a catholic mass, He doesn't actknowledge the catholic church.
2)The mariage feast is in heaven during the tribulation period, Not in a catholic church today.
3)How would I know if cold or lukewarm Christians go to Church on a sunday, I have always loved the Lord and love going to Church.
And so have the people in my Church. |
| God4me |
Posted - 04/19/2012 : 23:58:49
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Originally posted by bwellmysoul
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Originally posted by God4me
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Originally posted by bwellmysoul
You have no right to say that Communion is just a symbol, a remembrance of Jesus.
Jesus said, "This is My Body." "Do this in remembrance of Me." The Apostles understood the True Presence in the Eucharist and they taught it to their ordained ... for 1,500 years.
Interesting.
What do Pentecostals say before receiving symbolic Communion?
"I'm worthy Jesus because I believe Communion is only a representation of You."
I do have communion in rememberance of Jesus, WHAT DID YOU THINK I DO??
But nowhere in the Bible does it say the eucharist becomes the actula flesh of Jesus.
If Jesus meant eat His flesh, They would have eat Him there and then.
Jesus said take communion in rememberance of Him, And that what we do.
Again, you twist Scripture.
Jesus said, "This is My Body."
Then Jesus said, "Do this is remembrance of Me."
Jesus said, "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you" (John 6:53).
Jesus said, "I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst….
Jesus said, "I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world."
When Jesus said, "This is My Body", He was holding a piece of bread, He wasn't saying His litteral body.
Jesus explained what Jn 6 Means in v56, The rebirth, Jesus living in us, an us we in Christ.
V63, Jesus the living words are Spirit and life, We feed on Him.
It is the catholics who twist the scriptures.GET IT RIGHT. |
| bwellmysoul |
Posted - 04/19/2012 : 12:28:03
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Originally posted by God4me
quote:
Originally posted by bwellmysoul
quote:
)You have no right to take communion if you have sin in your life, You should stay at home, Or get right with God before you leave home.
Interesting you mention that.
Is it still a Commandment in your denomination to attend services on Sunday?
Or is that just another part of the "Old Covenant" that Protestantism again twisted for their own convenience.
We love to go to Church, Because we love Jesus, And we never know what God is going to do in our servised.
I love to attend Mass as well. Because I know that Jesus is there - as He said 2,000 years ago that He would be; and that He is offering Himself to us in the marriage supper of the Lamb.
But, that's not the question I asked.
I asked about whether of not your denomination believes that the 3rd Commandment is optional - that it belongs in the Old Covenant.
In other words, are lukewarm and cold Pentecostals attending services on Sunday, in accordance with the 3rd Commandment?
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| bwellmysoul |
Posted - 04/19/2012 : 12:19:55
quote:
Originally posted by God4me
quote:
Originally posted by bwellmysoul
You have no right to say that Communion is just a symbol, a remembrance of Jesus.
Jesus said, "This is My Body." "Do this in remembrance of Me." The Apostles understood the True Presence in the Eucharist and they taught it to their ordained ... for 1,500 years.
Interesting.
What do Pentecostals say before receiving symbolic Communion?
"I'm worthy Jesus because I believe Communion is only a representation of You."
I do have communion in rememberance of Jesus, WHAT DID YOU THINK I DO??
But nowhere in the Bible does it say the eucharist becomes the actula flesh of Jesus.
If Jesus meant eat His flesh, They would have eat Him there and then.
Jesus said take communion in rememberance of Him, And that what we do.
Again, you twist Scripture.
Jesus said, "This is My Body."
Then Jesus said, "Do this is remembrance of Me."
Jesus said, "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you" (John 6:53).
Jesus said, "I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst….
Jesus said, "I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world."
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| God4me |
Posted - 04/19/2012 : 10:02:14
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Originally posted by bwellmysoul
quote:
)You have no right to take communion if you have sin in your life, You should stay at home, Or get right with God before you leave home.
Interesting you mention that.
Is it still a Commandment in your denomination to attend services on Sunday?
Or is that just another part of the "Old Covenant" that Protestantism again twisted for their own convenience.
We love to go to Church, Because we love Jesus, And we never know what God is going to do in our servised. |
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