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| jupitermadcat |
Posted - 04/14/2012 : 06:14:51
Has anyone read this version? and is it a good choice.
http://www.amazon.com/Catechism-Catholic-Church-U-S/dp/0385479670/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1334408904&sr=1-6 |
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| michael |
Posted - 07/30/2012 : 06:19:35
I like the part of the Catechism on confession. By the act of sinning we exit the community of faith in other words excommunicate ourselves from the community of faith. The Our Father prayer says your will be done on earth as it is in heaven and forgive us as we forgive. So when a person who has sinned sincerly comes back to the community of faith on earth & confesses they are forgiven on earth as it is in heaven Jesus said I give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven what you bind on earth will be bound in heaven & who's sins you forgive will be forgiven them who's sins you retain will be retained. |
| michael |
Posted - 07/29/2012 : 21:06:59
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Originally posted by God4me
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Originally posted by Faith_at_Large
The official Catechism of the Catholic Church is the current one, but the Baltimore Catechism is useful too.
There are abridged versions as well, I have both.
Baby3, the Bible itself is not in chronological order, but it still works for our purposes, just read it through, or use the index to find particular topics.
As for the Mass, you can use the Missal to follow along, but if the Mass is being said in a language that you understand, you do not need to follow with a book except to learn the new translation for some of the responses.
Frankly, it would not be the end of the world if you just quietly responded with what was familiar to you.
The Mass has been around for nearly two thousand years and edified Christians even when they did not know how to read or write. It has been brought to the ends of the earth, said in all languages, and offered to all peoples, regardless of colour or ethnicity or language, and also to people regardless of where they were at spiritually or intellectually.
The Curé d'Ars, St. John Vianney, is one of our greatest Saints and yet he was not a scholar and had great difficulty in his studies, including Latin. It was his faith that was great, not his book learning.
If St. John Vianny could rise up to become one of the greatest Saints we have ever known, then I see no reason for you to sit at home.
The Mass has two pillars - the Liturgy of the Word and the Liturgy of the Eucharist.
You go and you listen to the scriptures being read to you and the Homily after the Gospel, and then you receive your Lord in the Eucharist. It does not have to be any more complicated than that.
The Mass is one of Christ's greatest gifts to you. He died so that we could have His flesh to eat. Approach boldly, and don't let anyone deter you.
The Bible never says the communiom bread becomes Jesus's real body.
When Jesus gave it to His disciple and said, "Take, eat", He wasn't offering them is physical body, He gave them bread.
And when Paul says it in 1 Cor 11: 23--25, He was quoting what Jesus had told His disciples, V23.
He did not say just take eat he said take eat this is my body
What part of this is my body do you not understand?
this is my body is as straight forward as you can make it right?
[26] Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and broke it, and gave it to the disciples and said, "Take, eat; this is my body."
Protestants take the bible literally accept when Jesus says this is my body Protestants say it is symbolic but they say it is symbolic without thinking it through. How is bread like Jesus body? How is wine like his blood? What could have Jesus possibly meant?
1Cor 10:16, "The cup of the blessing that we bless, IS IT NOT THE SHARING OF THE BLOOD OF CHRIST? And the bread that we break, IS IT NOT THE PARTAKING OF THE BODY OF THE LORD?"
Could St. Paul have said this any clearer than he did here?
Where did he say the "symbolic" sharing or the "symbolic" partaking?
This verse is absolutely to the point, and there is not a hint of symbolism anywhere.
Did you notice the BLESSING THAT WE BLESS, and the BREAD THAT WE BREAK?
Why is the Protestant answer to Pauls questions NO when when the answer is clearly YES? |
| Faith_at_Large |
Posted - 04/19/2012 : 19:01:30
I considered it, but the Lord called me to be a wife and mother. I was not too sure about that in the beginning, but later I understood. There are many good women who are called to serve the Lord in contemplative prayer and service through good works. I am raising up children for the Lord, and teaching them so that they can form faith filled families for future generations. |
| baby3 |
Posted - 04/19/2012 : 18:29:13
You could have been a Nun Faith,what stopped you? Blessings and Peace! |
| Faith_at_Large |
Posted - 04/16/2012 : 11:37:04
Baby3, many Catholics only make it to Mass on Sundays and if that is all you can do, there is nothing wrong with praying the rest of the week at home, or taking in daily Masses through EWTN.
Father Mitch Pacwa puts a lot online and I think you would like him very much.
It is wonderful to be able to attend Mass daily and receive the Eucharist, but God does not ask the impossible. So long as we make Sunday, that is sufficient. |
| acumenCry |
Posted - 04/16/2012 : 10:38:29
quote:
Originally posted by baby3
OK One day I will go to confession and go to church but i don't want to go to him to confess as i might br compelled to tell him i talked bad about him and why! B3
That's pretty funny. I would probably be the same way.
I second Faith - I have found that it is a great blessing to have a priest who you are comfortable with (and one who isn't a heretic). I prayed for God to put me under one I could trust, and it's funny how things worked out in order for me to find one. However, I ended up doing my first confession with one I had never met before. |
| baby3 |
Posted - 04/16/2012 : 10:00:58
All good replies but most catholic churches are at least 35 minutes away from me except the ones he is in. I would only be able to get there on Sundays and not the rest of the week for now until I go back to work again. I can call ST Mary's in Augusta I do know a priest there he is a great person ans sings at the abortion centers what a riot he is,him and I get along really nice he is very big and Irish as you can get:) I'll be right back with some of his information he was in the papers last year for embezzlement but that might have been a mistake I will check it out.B3 |
| Faith_at_Large |
Posted - 04/15/2012 : 21:16:59
Feel free to find a priest that you are comfortable with. If your current priest is a heretic, his orders are still valid, but he is less likely to be helpful. |
| baby3 |
Posted - 04/15/2012 : 20:54:41
OK One day I will go to confession and go to church but i don't want to go to him to confess as i might br compelled to tell him i talked bad about him and why! B3 |
| Diana Holberg |
Posted - 04/15/2012 : 05:09:50
My copy is larger in size and has a different cover, but I'm fairly sure the contents are the same. I think it's just an older copy.
http://www.amazon.com/Catechism-Catholic-English-Liguori-Publications/dp/0892435666/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1334491722&sr=8-1
Edit: I see - it has an extra index and is published by the Vatican. But I'll be the translation is the same. |
| Faith_at_Large |
Posted - 04/14/2012 : 20:19:09
If you have no problem with Latin, then the new translation should be even easier for you. The Latin has not changed, the English has changed to better match the Latin.
And my personal Bible for decades was the KJV NT & Psalms. I have no problem with that. I like my KJV. It is not the best translation, but it suits me most of the time.
I have grown to love the Douay-Rheims as it has all the charm of the KJV, but is an approved Catholic Bible.
And one of the most enduring criticisms of the Catholic Church is that it rarely changes. And this is true. When was the last time anything changed? Vatican II inspired a lot of changes, but that was a long time ago, from the perspective of our own lifetime.
If you are seeing a lot of changes, you should try staying put. Every Protestant denomination is a little different from all the rest as they have their own traditions and tend to be more pastor centred.
Don't go for priest. The Mass is there for you. It is your rightful inheritance, and the table of the Lord where we are nourished with the Word of God in every sense.
Don't give up your birthright just because you don't get along with a servant in God's Household. |
| baby3 |
Posted - 04/14/2012 : 15:12:37
quote:
Originally posted by Faith_at_Large
The official Catechism of the Catholic Church is the current one, but the Baltimore Catechism is useful too.
There are abridged versions as well, I have both.
Baby3, the Bible itself is not in chronological order, but it still works for our purposes, just read it through, or use the index to find particular topics.
As for the Mass, you can use the Missal to follow along, but if the Mass is being said in a language that you understand, you do not need to follow with a book except to learn the new translation for some of the responses.
Frankly, it would not be the end of the world if you just quietly responded with what was familiar to you.
The Mass has been around for nearly two thousand years and edified Christians even when they did not know how to read or write. It has been brought to the ends of the earth, said in all languages, and offered to all peoples, regardless of colour or ethnicity or language, and also to people regardless of where they were at spiritually or intellectually.
The Curé d'Ars, St. John Vianney, is one of our greatest Saints and yet he was not a scholar and had great difficulty in his studies, including Latin. It was his faith that was great, not his book learning.
If St. John Vianny could rise up to become one of the greatest Saints we have ever known, then I see no reason for you to sit at home.
The Mass has two pillars - the Liturgy of the Word and the Liturgy of the Eucharist.
You go and you listen to the scriptures being read to you and the Homily after the Gospel, and then you receive your Lord in the Eucharist. It does not have to be any more complicated than that.
The Mass is one of Christ's greatest gifts to you. He died so that we could have His flesh to eat. Approach boldly, and don't let anyone deter you.
Faith I don't know the way of the church any more all of it has changed and the words are not the same as I learned them also I have no problem with Latin as I sing in Latin it is the English and the bible they changed they are always changing the bible so you won't get to involved with it. For instance I learned all my Psalms in KJV and now they would never know what I am talking about and would [probably be offended by the way I learned them but other churches don't seem to mind me saying them from the KJV.That is most of the point I am trying to make but you don't care about what I know and how I feel amongst strangers that see you walk in all alone etc.I stay home for a reason.The priest stinks on toast there!!!!!! |
| acumenCry |
Posted - 04/14/2012 : 12:51:40
quote:
Approach boldly, and don't let anyone deter you.
Especially not g4. |
| God4me |
Posted - 04/14/2012 : 12:06:46
quote:
Originally posted by Faith_at_Large
The official Catechism of the Catholic Church is the current one, but the Baltimore Catechism is useful too.
There are abridged versions as well, I have both.
Baby3, the Bible itself is not in chronological order, but it still works for our purposes, just read it through, or use the index to find particular topics.
As for the Mass, you can use the Missal to follow along, but if the Mass is being said in a language that you understand, you do not need to follow with a book except to learn the new translation for some of the responses.
Frankly, it would not be the end of the world if you just quietly responded with what was familiar to you.
The Mass has been around for nearly two thousand years and edified Christians even when they did not know how to read or write. It has been brought to the ends of the earth, said in all languages, and offered to all peoples, regardless of colour or ethnicity or language, and also to people regardless of where they were at spiritually or intellectually.
The Curé d'Ars, St. John Vianney, is one of our greatest Saints and yet he was not a scholar and had great difficulty in his studies, including Latin. It was his faith that was great, not his book learning.
If St. John Vianny could rise up to become one of the greatest Saints we have ever known, then I see no reason for you to sit at home.
The Mass has two pillars - the Liturgy of the Word and the Liturgy of the Eucharist.
You go and you listen to the scriptures being read to you and the Homily after the Gospel, and then you receive your Lord in the Eucharist. It does not have to be any more complicated than that.
The Mass is one of Christ's greatest gifts to you. He died so that we could have His flesh to eat. Approach boldly, and don't let anyone deter you.
The Bible never says the communiom bread becomes Jesus's real body.
When Jesus gave it to His disciple and said, "Take, eat", He wasn't offering them is physical body, He gave them bread.
And when Paul says it in 1 Cor 11: 23--25, He was quoting what Jesus had told His disciples, V23. |
| acumenCry |
Posted - 04/14/2012 : 11:53:23
quote:
Originally posted by baby3
quote:
Originally posted by jupitermadcat
Has anyone read this version? and is it a good choice.
http://www.amazon.com/Catechism-Catholic-Church-U-S/dp/0385479670/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1334408904&sr=1-6
 I have one but I don't know how to read it as the pages are not in order so I don't bother trying to figure it out there is no one around who cares and who will even try to teach me they just asked me to go back to the church like a dummy well I don't want to be a dummy and I stay home and pray.I can't even follow them at mas b ecause I never know what pageg they switched to they go to fast and have no concern to teach dummys!B3
I always use the index in the back. Very helpful.
And Baby, you are no dummy. Many people are illiterate,especially in the earlier days, yet this has never prevented people from worshiping with all their heart and soul during Mass. |
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