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| baby3 |
Posted - 04/30/2012 : 05:17:15
OK This needs honest answers: If the church of Jesus started in Rome and the Romans had occupancy then and if the Jews destroyed the Temple (Which I herd it was the Jews and the Romans) How did the church of the enemy that crucified the Lord and the Roman soldiers that pierced his side not a Jew and up in the enemies camp and remain there? How come all the disciples were slaughtered by the Romans why would my Lords yes! My Lords church remain there? Do you love the Lord or the Pope? Do you want to be right with the Lord or with man! Make your choice and remember that it is not a game dame it! It is your mortal soul that is in jeopardy.B3
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| baby3 |
Posted - 05/20/2012 : 20:58:04
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Originally posted by Faith_at_Large
Jesus said it was His body that would be given up for us. Are we saved by a loaf of bread?
 Nope it is not that cut and DRY,I wish the protestants had a little more respect for the Lord and his wonderful sacrifice he made for us all YES! His body is in the Eucharist because he is better then the rest of the world even knows that he will bless all those who partake of his flesh and blood that is why others left his group because they knew dam well he meant what he was saying and they responded the same way G4, they thought Jesus was a cannibal and his disciples to.This is very simple to understand G4 why can't you believe? Brain washed? Scared? Jealous? Can't figure it out so hate it? That is what people do when they are stuck not knowing or being able to see clearly and God said this would happen to those he did not want to see.Nothing is cut and dry G4 it is all a mystery for our Faith does not go on what we think but a substance not seen by mortal man.B3 A strange breed of people that are very peculiar to the world will be his people, because he takes the strange things of the world to confound the wise! B3 |
| baby3 |
Posted - 05/20/2012 : 20:48:48
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Originally posted by God4me
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Originally posted by Kingofkings
What part of ''this ISmy body and this IS my blood. don't you get?
If Jesus proclaims something ISit IS. What part of that is a metaphor? Man it can't be any clearer. What would you want Jesus to say to you to believe it? He said it a million times.
You just go na can't be. Must be a metaphor. I'm sorry your church doesn't have the body and blood of Christ. So don't have much of an option of accepting it. I know your smarter than that. You know what he said.
Brother it's hard to let go of what you were brought up as I know. But you must seek the truth no matter what the consequences are. I honestly looked up everything about Protestant's. If you had the full truth I would go after it no matter what.
Every question you have about Catholic teaching has an answer. Just look it up. Just look at it with an open heart and you will see it's beauty.
It makes me sad when people have such a hard time accepting it. My heart is moved with love every time I see the Eucharist(Jesus). I wish I could share that joy with you brother. That's why i'm trying so hard to make you see. Just please pray ask God if the Eucharist is truth. He will answer I promise. Just be ready to accept that answer with an open heart. <3
There you ga ahain, Telling porkies.
You sais every quoestion I have about the catholics, Has an answear.
But you don't. AND YOU L=KNOW IT.
One catholic priest said the same thing, So I challenged him, I never heard a word from the coward, He was to scared to take my challenge because he knew he didn't have the answears, And neither do you.
Where do you find the catholic teachings in the Bible??, I have asked catholics on this forum, But no one is brave enough to give an answear, Because they know there isn't one.
 Everything goes back to the Temple in Israel and what they taught and they have a cannon law and other laws. The Catholic church has their own cannon but the Protestants don't have anything but good preaching that is a sounding brass, it is words and what did Jesus say about this?? They talk allot because they want to be herd and want to sit in front at the dinner tables,they think they are right because they talk and use many words but it all ravels down to one thing MONEY! Get out and spread the good news that you can get rich quick and never have to work in your life but to use your mouth and make money. Jesus wants you to work and not live off the people and have beautiful homes that others pay for.I can see one man of one church all over the world doing this but not every man in every church all over the world doing this!One church should be sufficiant to give all over the world and help those in need that was what the church of Jesus Christ was doing. How many widows do you give to every week? Sending a few hundreds to Africa and then claiming it on your tax return is what I call robbing from God, and his people.I work for nothing helping and praying for others so did the Lord! DON'T HIDE IT DEVIDE IT! If you knew the work I do for the Lord you would not believe it because I am a woman and woman are not allowed to do much but I tell you all this, that when the Lord returns he will straighten the path that is crooked and make way for the woman and children over the men of this earth and they will rule and help judge the nations it will not be all men doing this, it will be woman and children those who were the least of your berthern wearing rags and sleeping in cardbord boxes in the snow, and yes perhaps drinking their sorrows away cause no one gives a **** if they live or die.Give till it hurts, till you need a bit of food or have to give up ice ceram for a few months, or going out to eat all the time, buying senceless stuff when others are starving and naked and lonley, without clean water to even bath, or a carpet to lay on like the Lord,he came here in the cold and slept amoung my best friends the animals who know how to love and YES THEY ARE GOING TO HEAVEN AND THEY WILL HAVE THE PLACE OF ROTTEN MEN THAT NEVER MADE IT! BECAUSE OF LACK OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF HOW MUCH THE FATHER LOVES THE WORKS OF HIS HANDS and all creation! ANIMALS, And the sick will rise to health, and the cripple will be made to walk, the blind to see, all the ones you say must have sinned because they were sick will be judging people like you! Wake up cause all those you Mark will have complete dominion over you!It is an awful thing to fall into the hands of the living God:) B3 |
| Faith_at_Large |
Posted - 05/20/2012 : 14:40:04
Sure I do. Only Jesus could do that. But if you think that Jesus intended to sacrifice a bread version of Himself, suit yourself. |
| God4me |
Posted - 05/20/2012 : 10:29:35
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Originally posted by Faith_at_Large
Jesus said it was His body that would be given up for us. Are we saved by a loaf of bread?
Jesus gave the disciple bread, Not His flesh, Where do you see the disciples litterally eating Jesus??.YOU DON'T.
Because Jesus never meant it was His litteral body.
Jesus was speaking metaphorically. |
| Faith_at_Large |
Posted - 05/20/2012 : 08:57:10
Jesus said it was His body that would be given up for us. Are we saved by a loaf of bread? |
| God4me |
Posted - 05/20/2012 : 01:05:17
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Originally posted by bwellmysoul
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Originally posted by God4me
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Originally posted by bwellmysoul
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Originally posted by God4me
But Jesus didn'y give them His body, DID HE?? NO.NO.,He gave them bread. WAKE UP DOZY.
The Son of God doesn't speak in "metaphorical" language when He holds up unleaven bread (during the ancient practice of the Feast of Unleaven Bread) and says "This is My Body" and then holds up wine and says, "This is My Blood, which will be shed for many for the forgiveness of sins."
God the Son's own disciples realized He wasn't speaking in a "metaphorical" language.
They were sickened with His speech, His saying that people should eat His flesh and drink His blood and they questioned the Son of God, "This is a hard saying, who can accept it?"
And then Jesus asked them how (if they can't believe in the Miracle of Him being the Bread from Heaven), can they believe in His Resurrection and Ascension.
Those unbelieving disciples left Him in huge numbers.
And Jesus said of them, "Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to Him by My Father."
The unfortuneate Truth is, that the Protestantism(s) have denied what God the Father and God the Son have already granted.
You are correct in a way, you do receive a "symbol", however its a symbol of various Protestant theology.
STOP TELLING LIES, YOU NAUGHTY MAN.
Good Heavens, grow up and face the facts. And leave your childish fingerpointing and accusations for another of Protestantisms denominations.
Jesus gave His disciples bread, Not His litteral body, Read it yourself, It's in the Bible, Not the catholic councils.
Jesus was speaking metaphorically in Jn 6, STOP TELLING LIES,
It' a good job you are already going to hell. |
| God4me |
Posted - 05/20/2012 : 00:52:13
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Originally posted by Kingofkings
What part of ''this ISmy body and this IS my blood. don't you get?
If Jesus proclaims something ISit IS. What part of that is a metaphor? Man it can't be any clearer. What would you want Jesus to say to you to believe it? He said it a million times.
You just go na can't be. Must be a metaphor. I'm sorry your church doesn't have the body and blood of Christ. So don't have much of an option of accepting it. I know your smarter than that. You know what he said.
Brother it's hard to let go of what you were brought up as I know. But you must seek the truth no matter what the consequences are. I honestly looked up everything about Protestant's. If you had the full truth I would go after it no matter what.
Every question you have about Catholic teaching has an answer. Just look it up. Just look at it with an open heart and you will see it's beauty.
It makes me sad when people have such a hard time accepting it. My heart is moved with love every time I see the Eucharist(Jesus). I wish I could share that joy with you brother. That's why i'm trying so hard to make you see. Just please pray ask God if the Eucharist is truth. He will answer I promise. Just be ready to accept that answer with an open heart. <3
There you ga ahain, Telling porkies.
You sais every quoestion I have about the catholics, Has an answear.
But you don't. AND YOU L=KNOW IT.
One catholic priest said the same thing, So I challenged him, I never heard a word from the coward, He was to scared to take my challenge because he knew he didn't have the answears, And neither do you.
Where do you find the catholic teachings in the Bible??, I have asked catholics on this forum, But no one is brave enough to give an answear, Because they know there isn't one. |
| God4me |
Posted - 05/20/2012 : 00:44:56
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Originally posted by Kingofkings
What part of ''this ISmy body and this IS my blood. don't you get?
If Jesus proclaims something ISit IS. What part of that is a metaphor? Man it can't be any clearer. What would you want Jesus to say to you to believe it? He said it a million times.
You just go na can't be. Must be a metaphor. I'm sorry your church doesn't have the body and blood of Christ. So don't have much of an option of accepting it. I know your smarter than that. You know what he said.
Brother it's hard to let go of what you were brought up as I know. But you must seek the truth no matter what the consequences are. I honestly looked up everything about Protestant's. If you had the full truth I would go after it no matter what.
Every question you have about Catholic teaching has an answer. Just look it up. Just look at it with an open heart and you will see it's beauty.
It makes me sad when people have such a hard time accepting it. My heart is moved with love every time I see the Eucharist(Jesus). I wish I could share that joy with you brother. That's why i'm trying so hard to make you see. Just please pray ask God if the Eucharist is truth. He will answer I promise. Just be ready to accept that answer with an open heart. <3
It wasn't Jesus body..WAS IT, DOZY, It was a piece of bread symobolising His body..WAKE UP.
Jesus was speaking Metaphorically in Jn 6. It wasn't His real body, He didn't make us canibles.
You catholics are so dopey you believe anything the popes porkies tell you. |
| keeper49 |
Posted - 05/19/2012 : 18:21:35
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If you read the Bible, You'll see that the TRUE Church is a
"Spirit filled, tongues talking, Bible believing, miracle working, casting out demon healing the sick Church".
Show me one pentecostal miracle performed between the years 400AD and 1400AD
If your Church goes back that far surely there must be one miracle attributed to a member of your faith.
I gotta see this.  |
| baby3 |
Posted - 05/19/2012 : 18:05:30
By the way the Catholic church does all of these:) God honors ALL PRAYER!!!!!!!!!!!!! B3 |
| baby3 |
Posted - 05/19/2012 : 17:59:37
OK G4 to be fair to you I found this scripture and there are many more and I confirm this because I can do this and I have laid my hands on a child and he never had to have surgery that day.I have baptized, and speak in tongues but Paul said this was not that important so I keep it between me and the Lord.I have prayed over the pastor in the Methodist church and slipped and spoke in tongues and they were very surprised and liked it:) But I don't go crazy with it either:)I don't mark those who don't speak in tongues, or make them uncomfortable,remember there are 9 fruits of the spirit not everyone can do everything but if their hearts are right and they are not living in sin why do you condemn? it took me a lot of praying and then after my baptism it hit me that day like a ton of bricks and I felt the joy enter my body yes, but then that was it.I feel and know, Love is more important to the Lord and if you are feeding his sheep.B3 Below is one scripture but it sounds important also.
And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover.”
—Mark 16:15-18 |
| baby3 |
Posted - 05/19/2012 : 17:26:01
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sola_scripturaCached - Similar
If this comes out please go to the bottom and read what they said about Aries there:) B3 that was how it started, the Protestant beliefs:( |
| baby3 |
Posted - 05/19/2012 : 17:10:49
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Originally posted by God4me
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Originally posted by mikejuli
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Originally posted by God4me
Show me where the Bible teaches salvation by infant baptism, And I will show you ALL the scriptures that prove slainn in the Spirirt.
show me where the pope speaks of being slain in the spirit. oh wait, you don't believe in the tradition of the church? well i do and i can show you from that tradition where infant baptism is found.
you do believe in the idea of sola scriptura which i reject as unbiblical in and of itself.. but the point is that its silly of you to expect me to answer according to your set of traditions especially if you won't even answer according to them.
the beliefs i hold are consistent with the teachings i recognize.. your beliefs are not found in the teachings you recognize (bible alone).. so tell me g4.. who is being honest and upfront? are you beginning to see why anyone with an ounce of common sense would go to the catholic church? if you say no then you really are a gormless sod...or whatever other ridiculous brittish curse you choose to sling.
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Even if it wasn't in the Bible, It doesn't mean it isn't of God, The Holy Spirit can do what He wan't to, If we let Him.
The Bible says, "Don't hinder His operations".
If He wan't to slay people, He can, He doesn't need your permision.
i agree g4. your already starting to sound like a catholic.. if he wanted to guide the church into all truth through an apostolic succession of popes then by all means. he didn't need your permission for that and still doesn't.
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I have seen catholic priest laying hands on people and them being slain.
So, If the devil can do it through his catholic servants, How much more can God do it through His people.
if it's the devil when catholics do it then it's the devil when you do it. sorry g4 but you may as well say it's o.k. for you to speed while driving, but wrong if a catholic goes over the speed limit by a mile.
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Show me where the Bible say we can pray to the departed, And they pray for us.
You need at least two New testament scriptures, So, Two scriptures please.
As for Sola scriptura, See Prov 30: 5--6. V6 calls you liar's.
nope nope nope. YOU show me two verses that defend you positions. neither of those prove sola scriptura and certainly proves you to be a liar and manipulator of scripture.. but more important is that now you need to show two verses that prove your claim about slain in the spirit. if you cannot then just admit your a hypocrite... i don't think anyone will be shocked.
[1]What in the world has the pope or the catholic tradition got to do with the Bible??.
[2]Because you don't believe in Spla Scriptura, Read Prov 30: 5-6.
v 6, Says your a liar.
If npot Solar scriptura, WHAT ELES IS THERE??..WKAE UP.
[3]There you go again, Telling lies and swearing.
My teachings are in the Bible.
[4]The Apostles have never stoped since Jesus gave them to the Church. And the Apostle Preached/teached and did what God told them, And they are recorded in the Bible, So whatever we do or say, Has to be in line with the Bible.
The Holy Spirit is in the Bible, So if He wants to get people slain in the Spirit He can.
But the catholic teachings aren't in the Bible.
Neither is the so-called catholic Apostolic succession, As the catholic church wasn't formed until at least 300 years later, ASk your owm FR Pacwa, He admits it.
[5]God will never confirm the catholic church, So when a catholic priest gets someone salin, It is by the power of the devil.
Whereas, God does confirm His word, [Which I teach] So when I lay hands on people, The Holy Spirit touches them and they get slain in the Spirit.
[6]As for Sola scriptura, How in the world does Prov 30: 5--6, Prove me to be a liar??.
I'm not the one adding to the Bible..WAKE UP DOZY.
As for Sola scriptura, See, Deut 4: 2. Deut 5: 32. Josh 1: 7.
[7]Give me two scriptures that say salvation by infant baptism, And I will give you at least two scriptures that ptove slain in the Spirit.
OK G4,If God was to get anyone slain in the spirit, it would be for messages not to babble in any tongue that comes up. Most people do not know what the hell they are saying and then they come over and place their hands all over your head (He will bruise you in the head!)
That always comes up for me when someone wants to place their hands on my head. I had one person pray for me and did this and my head ached for three days that is the truth I had a splitting head ache I will never let anyone place their hands on my head ever again!
Then I was praying for God to get me out of there the music was decalcifying my whole spinal column and I wanted the door!!Praise the Lord I got out after the pastor got through kicking his own ass running down the isles!! B3 |
| Faith_at_Large |
Posted - 05/18/2012 : 09:41:26
We wouldn't quote what we did not beleive, so why are you calling us liars and hypocrites?
I am a Catholic because I believe the Bible. If I did not believe everything in the Bible, I would never be a Catholic.
The Bible says that we shall know them by their fruits. You show none of the fruits of the Holy Spirit, and for this reason I and others are praying for you.
I hope that some day your deep seated anger leaves you. This is not of God, and no good can come of it. |
| God4me |
Posted - 05/18/2012 : 09:25:18
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Originally posted by bwellmysoul
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Originally posted by God4me
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Originally posted by bwellmysoul
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Originally posted by God4me
YOU GREAT BIG LIAR.
[1]The TRUE Pentecostal/Chraismatic Church is just the same as the one in the book of Acts...WE speak in tongues, prophecy, heal the sick, cast out devils, Do miracles, Raise the dead,AND TEACH GOD'S WORD..Unlike the catholics.
[2]catholics were around for the first 300-600 years, Until the devil formed the eroneous catholic church.
[3]God made Christianity legal, Not the catholics.
G4Me,
St. Paul cautions about the sin of those who pride themselves in individual unintelligible speech (speaking of tongues) yet do not love; about those who prophecy without love, those who give to the poor without love, those Christians who dishonor others, those Christians who act like angry children and will not mature.
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1 Corinthians 13
New International Version (NIV)
13 If I speak in the tongues[a] of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2
If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3
If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast,[b] but do not have love, I gain nothing.
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5
It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6
Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7
It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
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Love never fails.
But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9
For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11
When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12
For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
YOU BIG HYPOCRITE, You quote the Bible but you don't believe it.
Do all Pentecostals have your lack of love and lack of understanding concerning sins against neighbor?
You quote the Bible and have no love. Just as the Scripture above, warns against.
You wish to believe that your hatred, pride and bigotry is covered by Christ's forgiveness because you pick-and-throw-away Sacred Scripture and say that "catholics aren't my brother."
If that's the case for you, then another Sacred Scripture applies which you can not weasel around:
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43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’ 44
But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven.
He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46
If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47
And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others?
Do not even pagans do that? 48
Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
There you go again, YOU BIG HYPOCRITE, You Quote the Bible, yet you don't believe it.
And don't tell lies and say you do believe the Bible, Because if you did, You wouldn't be a catholic. |
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