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| Conqueror |
Posted - 06/21/2012 : 22:16:58
Male homosexuals, who appear to have difficulties recognising that male and female genitals are purposely designed for each other, generally deny the existence of a Creator. Therefore they desperately hold fast to a theory, which hypothesises that male and female genitals evolved for each other. This evolutionary process would be severely hindered and even cease if there were too many 'gender confused' beings. Sodomy should be classed as abnormal behaviour, as these actions oppose their irrational thoughts.
Anyone who, claims to be motivated by love and therefore exposes his genitals to the faecal waste of a loved one surely needs psychiatric intervention. Marriage is defined by one loving act, however reciprocal sodomy requires two acts of lust and now society is pressured to sanction this abnormal and disgusting behaviour. |
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| Faith_at_Large |
Posted - 07/15/2012 : 18:23:56
Paul was a Roman Citizen, but was not born in the City of Rome. Paul could speak Greek and Hebrew, and possibly Latin, but Latin was not the primary language yet in this region as Greek was still widely used. That would come later.
Peter and Paul were both Jewish, but Peter spoke Hebrew as his primary language, but probably learned Greek later.
The Church became centred in Rome because that was where all the Christians were brought to be martyred - Paul was brought there for this purpose, so were many others. This made Rome a great place to collect all the Christian information - teachings, documents, etc. And to win the fight against the Beast.
Many Popes have been Italian because that it was a matter of convenience being from Italy where the Vatican was - but as you said, not all - Peter was not Italian, we have had at least three Popes of African descent, and our two most recent Popes were from Poland and Germany.
Statues can come from anywhere, but Italians did and do have so many lovely artisans. But Judaeo Christian art did not begin in Rome - the Jews had experience with this as well and the Temple in Jerusalem was filled with amazing statuary and images of all types. |
| Faith_at_Large |
Posted - 07/15/2012 : 18:10:24
Rome was not bad, the Romans were the problem, not even all Romans - the Emperors and their cohorts were all pagans prior to Constantine, and they objected to Christianity because of our refusal to tolerate pagan practices and give recognition to pagan gods.
The use of Latin was practical because everyone at the time spoke it - if you wanted to do business in the Roman empire, you had to be able to speak the language.
To revert to Hebrew would have been a slap in God's face as HE had prophesied that His name would be brought to the GENTILES - all Nations, not just the Hebrew people in Palestine. In fact, the destruction of Jerusalem was in part to kick them out of this isolationist mindset. God willed it.
The Hebrew people were insular to keep them from the influence of the pagan cultures around them, but that was only to prepare them for the New Covenant which would then be spread throught out the world beginning with the Roman Empire.
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| baby3 |
Posted - 07/15/2012 : 13:47:55
Another question if Rome was so bad why does the church practice all Latin and Roman calendars and everything was in Latin at one time and Peter was not Latin he was Jew right? Paul was born in Rome.Even all the statues came from Italy everything Catholic is Italy most all your popes were Italian but very few Why?. |
| baby3 |
Posted - 07/15/2012 : 13:31:51
Most people imagine pedophiles as ugly old men dressed in trench coats, hiding in the bushes, waiting to snatch young children off the street. However, recent television shows, such as To Catch a Predator, have exposed pedophiles as local neighbors, trusted friends, clergy, babysitters, teachers, and even family members.
Conceptions about pedophiles have been changing rapidly, and pedophilia has recently become a topic of increased awareness and concern. Not only do television shows expose pedophiles, but there are new sexual offender disclosure laws, websites that track convicted sexual offenders, and more investigations of pedophilia, especially after the sex abuse scandal in the Catholic Church. Yet children still remain vulnerable to sexual offenders regardless of their public façade.
The increasing attention on pedophilia has caused many Americans to question what this disorder entails, its characteristics, and what type of treatment should be sought for abusers. What is pedophilia? Do people choose to be pedophiles or are they born that way? This post will address these questions.
Pedophilia
The American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV) defines pedophilia as recurrent sexually arousing fantasies, impulsive desires, or behaviors involving sexual acts with a child and that occur over a period of at least six months. In most cases, the pedophile is at least sixteen years of age and at least five years older than the child. Those who suffer from pedophilia have a compulsion to abuse young children.
Categorizing Pedophiles
Pedophiles can be classified in several ways. Pedophilia can be characterized as either exclusive or non-exclusive. Exclusive pedophiles are attracted only to children. They show no interest in sexual partners who are not prepubescent children. This desire prolongs even when they are not in the presence of children. Non-exclusive pedophiles are attracted to both adults and children. A large percentage of male pedophiles are homosexual or bisexual in orientation to children, meaning they are attracted to male children or both male and female children (Schiffer, 2008).
Many people assume that only males are pedophiles. However, case studies on pedophilia have demonstrated that female pedophilia does exist (Chow, 2002). Although this is a rare phenomenon, females who meet the DSM-IV criteria for pedophiles display similar cognitive distortions to that of males, such as irrational thoughts. Some differences, however, do exist among males and females. Females who exhibit pedophilia tend to suffer from psychiatric disorders or substance abuse problems. Also, there is a higher correlation between sexual abuses as a child with females compared to males.
What Causes Pedophilia?
The etiology of pedophilia can be attributed to both biological and environmental factors. Case studies indicate that cerebral dysfunction may be a contributing or dominant factor of pedophilia (Scott, 1984), including problems with self-control, extreme urges, and cognitive distortions. Many experts also believe that disorders for sexual preferences emerge from childhood experiences during critical periods in human development (DiChristina, 2009). In many cases, child sex abusers suffer from traumatic experiences during their childhood.
More specifically, pedophiles tend to also have been molested as children. As children, they lacked the ability to control the situation. By sexually assaulting children, pedophiles attempt to re-live the trauma they experienced and they learn how to master it. A complete role reversal gives them the upper hand and prevents them from being victimized. Overall, through the impact of cerebral dysfunction and traumatic development, the sexual urges and desires for children can become ingrained within a person’s nervous system.
Role of the Brain
There is significant evidence that indicate structural abnormalities in the brains of pedophiles (Schiffer, 2008). Abnormalities occur when the brain is developing and can be on-set through certain experiences, such as sexual abuse as a child. Abnormalities in the brains of pedophiles may result in compulsion, poor judgment, and repetitive thoughts.
These abnormalities in the brains of pedophiles are caused by early neurodevelopmental perturbations (Schiffer, 2008). The use of functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRIs) and positron emission tomography scans (PET) has revealed that the abnormalities of pedophiles exhibit appear in the frontal and central regions of the brain. In particular, there is a decreased volume of gray brain matter in the central striatum. As a result, the nucleus accumbens, orbital frontal cortex, and the cerebellum are all affected (Schiffer, 2008).
These areas of the brain play an important role in addictive behavior. The accumbens is the central mediator of reward signaling and expectation. The striatum and orbito frontal cortex control this reward system. As a result, this contributes to the etiology of pedophilia because a reward deficiency complication disturbs the neurotransmission of dopamine involved in compulsive and addictive behaviors.
Due to the frontotemporal dysfunctions, pedophilia shares neural characteristics with psychiatric disorders that fall in the range of the obsessive-compulsive (OC) spectrum. These impulsive disorders include pathological gambling, kleptomania, and even Tourettes syndrome. While some debate this claim (Schiffer et al., 2007), there is substantial evidence for the existence of physiological and genetic overlaps. In particular, studies have shown that alterations in the frontostriatal circuitry are a major abnormality leading to obsessive-compulsive behavior. Pedophiles tend to act inappropriately and exhibit poor judgment because they lack the ability to control their impulses.
These structural alterations underlie the antisocial behaviors exhibited by someone with pedophilia. Pedophiles are burdened with repetitive thoughts and urges. Consequently, they seek to fulfill these desires through behavior that is socially unacceptable and at times, even illegal. Most pedophiles express shame and guilt after partaking in their immoral behavior because their neurological dysfunctions deal strictly with urges and not emotions (Schiffer et al., 2007).
Is There a Cure?
Pedophilia, like many types of disturbances or diseases, does not have a complete cure. The sexual urges associated with pedophilia may never permanently disappear, and a person’s sexual preference and orientation can be difficult to completely re-orient. At present, treatment primarily focuses on preventing further offenses rather than changing sexual orientation.
Yuli Grebchenko, MD, has done extensive research on pedophiles. He noted that pedophilia is a life-long disorder and stated that, “It needs lifelong treatment” (Lamberg, 2005). Recent studies have demonstrated that psychotherapy and pharmacotherapy can be combined to bring about the most effective treatment to someone suffering from pedophilia (Kersebaum, 2007).
Therapy includes discussing traumatic events, especially those from the childhood of an abuser. Therapy also seeks to help patients identify situations that may tempt them to engage in harmful behaviors toward children. During therapeutic treatment, therapists may try to correct a patient’s cognitive disorder, which may include misperceptions that the child enjoyed the abuse.
The three standard pharmacotherapy treatments for pedophilia are selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRI), luteinizing hormone-releasing hormone (LHRH), and leuprolide acetate (LA) (Briken, 2003). These pharmacotherapy treatments target certain hormones and chemicals in the body, but have varying side effects. SSRIs are effective in less severe cases and patients often experience only sexual side effects (Kraus, 2007). In more serious cases, LA can reduce testosterone to extremely low levels along with pedophilic urges. While LA treatment is somewhat dangerous, it has been found to be very effective (Schober, 2005). The newest treatment drug, LHRH, reduces neural responsiveness to visual sexual stimuli and has very little side effects
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| mikejuli |
Posted - 07/07/2012 : 10:42:18
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Originally posted by Conqueror
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Originally posted by Faith_at_Large
Of course, it is also very unfortunate that there are those who never make that distinction between the existance of sin within a group and the indoctrination of sin from the pulpit.
Do you want to talk about rampant and systemic paedophilia in your holy institution?
If necessary use words, as actions speak louder!
Do you want to cast the first stone dude? I got lots of stories to tell about non Catholics, cops, goverrnment workers, military, school teachers. Funny thing is that to this day I have never met a pedophile priest. I know there have been some and they have or will be brought to justice. But I find it interesting that people like you don't seem to mind pedophiles who aren't priests. You whine about a few priests who have fallen but never bring up the pastors and sects, or other people who engage in such a horrible practice.
The truth is that most priests are not pedophiles, just like most televangelists arent masturbating in front of hookers, and most teachers arent having sex with students (pedophilia).
I have heard feminists categorize all men as dominating bastards, are you a man? Is that stereotype true of you? Maybe it is. But I'm sure that because there are men who are abusive it doesn't mean all are or that they should be accused of rampant and systematic abuse. However if you care to throw the stones to begin with, I'll simply toss them back at ya .
Have you stopped raping children yet? |
| Faith_at_Large |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 13:35:28
The Church does not tell the government whether or not they can have the death penalty. And at no time has pedophilia ever been put up as a crime that merited the death penalty, even in states that have the Death Penalty.
It is not the Church's fault for letting them live. It is the State's. And it is possible that it could be treated and even cured some day if the state would stay out of the way of science.
Pedophiles do not just show up without any warning - they are not born that way, they are made that way. There has been tremendous progress made in treating homosexuality, but in the cases most likely to turn into pedophilia, the State of California is attempting to ban treatment.
Once one of the paraphilias is broken down and cured, then the treatment of all the rest becomes easier to treat and cure. But there is evil afoot to prevent this from happening. |
| baby3 |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 13:26:11
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Originally posted by Faith_at_Large
It was never acceptable. It happened, and a lot did not know how to handle a horrific situation. No one did.
That did happen thirty years ago, because some honestly thought that they could treat the priest and that the fear of Hell would stop him. That didn't work and so the methods changed and now the Catholic Church has the lowest rates of any group.
But the secular groups did not change. A few years back a young girl was murdered and dismembered in Ontario. Her family found out later that over 200 convicted pedophiles lived in her neighbourhood because the federal government did not know what to do with them.
Even after the scandal broke out in the Catholic Church, none of the others learned a dang thing. The Boy Scouts did not change a stitch until they were exposed. Neither did any other group. That is why the problem still persists to such a high degree outside the Catholic Church.
And I have been watching Dateline's To Catch a Predator for a number of years now. I have never seen a Catholic Priest get caught. I have seen Protestant Youth ministers get caught, Rabbis, Muslims, teachers, doctors, and a self-professed Born Again Christian with an amateur online ministry. Not one Catholic Priest. There is still the odd one, but very rare, and none on that show.
There are reasons why I answered this particular thread on homosexuality, but if you are not capable of having a sensible discussion so be it.
Bull ****!! I told you way back that it was the churches fault for letting these bastards live in the first place there is no cure for this!!! And you guys don't want the death penalty so the abuse of little ones goes on and on and if I ever saw one near me I would know what to do right away. It is scriptural,SEND THEM TO GOD!!!! |
| Faith_at_Large |
Posted - 07/03/2012 : 11:44:19
Is he a pentecostal. I beleive that Congueror's religious affiliations is strictly anti-Catholicism. |
| bwellmysoul |
Posted - 07/03/2012 : 06:55:58
I think he/she believes that child sexual molestation and sexual assault doesn't exist in Pentecostalism:
http://www.mlive.com/news/bay-city/index.ssf/2011/11/saginaw_township_church_of_chr.html
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/doniphan-mo/T4VQ2R97BV8RKATGB
Head buried in the sand. |
| Faith_at_Large |
Posted - 07/03/2012 : 06:33:15
Or did you honestly think that homosexuality only exists outside of Christianity? |
| Faith_at_Large |
Posted - 07/03/2012 : 06:32:27
The OP is about homosexuality. This is a Christian forum, and it was a logical move to show where and now homosexuality is fitting in with Christian Churches.
You are the one who made the connection to pedophilia in the Catholic Church. And I am not in any way trying to make evil palatable. The evil is in YOUR house. I am showing you the way out by showing where progress has been made. |
| Conqueror |
Posted - 07/02/2012 : 22:51:24
The OP is not about the RCC
it is you who made that connection.
your problem, your image, your bad fruit.
However you work hard at making evil palatable.
unlike Jesus who came to destroy evil.
BTW Jesus couldn´t destroy that evil in the RCC,
because it is not his church! |
| Faith_at_Large |
Posted - 07/01/2012 : 09:22:59
The silence is deafening. |
| Faith_at_Large |
Posted - 06/28/2012 : 12:05:48
Those who have distanced themselves from the Reformation by becoming non-denoms of no fixed affiliation do make it harder to nail down their abuses, and it is rather interesting as part of the reason of departing from the Reformation churches was to distance themselves from the abuses and corruptions of the Reformation Churches (not specifically this particular one).
But there are many denominations with clergy who have fallen.
There are numbers available, but I don't know how much is available on line, but I found a few sites to be interesting.
StopBaptistPredators
It isn't just a Catholic issue.
From Ethics Daily regarding the Southern Baptist Conventions.
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EthicsDaily.com reported 11 arrests, three convictions, two lawsuits and one suicide involving alleged sexual abuse by clergy in 2007.
Other stories included a church that allowed a convicted sex offender to preach from its pulpit while knowing about his past and comments by the president of the Southern Baptist Convention denying clergy predators are a "systemic" problem and accusing victim advocates of using the issue for personal gain.
Those stories were part of ongoing coverage of efforts by the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests to pressure the 16.3 million-member convention to establish an independent review board for clergy sex abuse similar to those set up by Roman Catholics and other denominations after the Catholic pedophile priest cover-up scandal five years ago.
It is not that Baptists are bad or Catholics are bad or Lutherans are bad, etc. But this is a problem that is everywhere and needs to be dealt with. The Catholic Church had to learn some very painful mistakes. Others are starting to realize that they need to deal with this issue before it blows up on them.
Time For Some Fair and Balanced Reporting on Clerical Sexual Abuse
This Blog has some useful advice for getting a clearer picture on the scandal within the larger body of Christianity - Google it, only add the names of the various larger denominations to see that it is not just Catholics.
The author also repeats my constant assertions that priestly celibacy and an all male priesthood are not the root of this problem.
Why Do Catholics Get All the Blame for Clergy Abuse?, posted on Law.com.
Interesting question. And not so surpising answer - money.
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This last point may be the most plausible but it begs the question, Why did the lawyers target the Catholic Church? Tillers' answer: "The hierarchical structure of the Roman Catholic Church made it possible -- after some tinkering was done with immunity rules pertaining to non-profits -- to bring actions for damages against entities with relatively deep pockets."
And now that these lawyers have emptied those deep Roman Catholic pockets, Tillers writes, "we can expect to see -- and I think we are seeing -- an increasing number of sex abuse lawsuits against Protestant clergy and churches, Jewish clergy and organizations, other religious organizations and their clergy ... and -- eventually -- educators (regardless of religious persuasion) and those who employ educators."
Insurance companies are an interesting source of information, on a report from MSNBC Insurer data sketch Protestant clergy sex abuse they devulged that there have been about 13,000 credible accusations against Catholic priests since 1950. (They have some information on Protestants too, but I want so show something specific here pertaining to the Catholic Church.)
Now that is a huge number. That should never have happened. Certainly not in Christ's Church. But while horrific, just how wide spread is it?
The Catholic Church currently has over one billion Catholics, to serve them there are currently about 410,000 priests. Note that is for the year 2011. This is not the total number that existed between 1950 and 2011, but I will use that number for ease of use.
Now if we pretend that 13,000 accusations were not spaced over 50 years but for ease of calculations all happened in 2011, and that each accusation equaled one victim (not necessarily but humour me), and each victim had a unique victimizer - we would be looking at slightly over 3% of the priesthood being abusers.
That means nearly 97% of priest were not abusers.
Of course the 3% number is greatly inflated because a single victim could make more than one accusation, and even if they didn't, most did not each have unigue abusers - a single priest could abuse anywhere from 30 to 300 victims. And the total number of priests that served during the course of that 50 year period would be much larger. So that the real percentage of abusing priests is much lower.
That it happened in Christ's Church is horrific. That anyone tried to cover it up is also horrific, but human. Witnesses in every other denomination and school and sports club, even government agencies, did the same thing - it was wrong for any of them to have done this, but it happens.
99% of Catholic priest's never touched anyone. Yet we get a constant barrage of hate speech crying out about this being a systemic problem in the Catholic Church.
Clean out your own houses first. |
| bwellmysoul |
Posted - 06/28/2012 : 09:22:05
"Born agains" aren't listed under a heading in the child sexual abuse statistics. Which is helpful for those who wish to continue in their misbelief that child sexual abuse doesn't happen in their denomination.
Assemblies of God is listed on some online child sexual abuse reports.
A Pentecostal pastor was recently convicted on 14 counts of child sexual abuse (latest count was for a 2007 abuse).
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