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| baby3 |
Posted - 05/22/2012 : 17:47:53
Hi, I overheard that the Catholic church teaches another gospel, now I would like to know what the Pentecostals teach and the baptist teach and the millions of beliefs out there, that are different then the Catholic church and if they all agree with each other which I am sure most will then why in SAM Hill don't they join together and become one??They are all right and one church is wrong, of all the religions in the world? Well if you turn this idea around you will find quite the opposite much better to believe then churches that can't even get along with each other and join forces together since they all are aware of what Jesus said to be on one mind and one belief etc. I still don't get what it is or will take for them to see the err of their ways and to stop blaming the Catholic church for what they are to lazy to try to understand.How the heck can well educated people not get the jest of it? Now I know what educated idiot means:)I am not that educated and I ask questions and try to go else where to find someone that I feel I can trust to teach me what they know and I find they are teaching me with love and patience remembering what I told them I do not understand every thing and the language is hard for me to grasp but I am bent on trying to find the way. Now I studied with the Baptist.Jehovah's,7day Adventist.Mormons,Southern baptists, Church of the Great God,Methodist,Pentecostal,Non denominational, Dispensational, This rapture.that Rapture,if none of them have been right, and there are so many, but yet the oldest church is the Catholic and Greek and Asian Orthodox how can any of the false prophets of this day and age ever be right when they are the ones who are wrong? They are not from days of old the Church of Jesus was already established before all the other messes came and sought out how to get into the act. |
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| God4me |
Posted - 05/25/2012 : 22:40:46
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Originally posted by bwellmysoul
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Originally posted by God4me
There you go again..TELLING LIES, It's a good job you are already going to hell.
Matthew 7:2
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For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
James 4
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Brothers and sisters, do not slander one another.
Anyone who speaks against a brother or sister[d] or judges them speaks against the law and judges it.
When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it.
There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy.
But you—who are you to judge your neighbor?
You don't know the difference between judging, slander and the truth. |
| bwellmysoul |
Posted - 05/25/2012 : 09:43:46
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Originally posted by God4me
There you go again..TELLING LIES, It's a good job you are already going to hell.
Matthew 7:2
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For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
James 4
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Brothers and sisters, do not slander one another.
Anyone who speaks against a brother or sister[d] or judges them speaks against the law and judges it.
When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it.
There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy.
But you—who are you to judge your neighbor?
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| God4me |
Posted - 05/25/2012 : 09:18:06
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Originally posted by mikejuli
there is not difference g4 except the difference in your own imagination. stop telling lies and start manning up to the truth. or not. it really doesn't matter cause anyone with half a brain can simply do their own homework and find the truth. it's what i did and thats why i left your manipulative cult.
fact the catholic church was already alive and well long before the imaginary claim of the year 300..
fact speaking in tongues is a game pentacostals play to have fun and make jesus more exciting. cause they are too bored with the truth.
fact pentacostalism started in the early 1900's which placed them 1600 years after the imaginary claim of 300 for the catholic church.
fact g4 is untrustworthy, a mocker, a liar, a cheat, a manipulater and your all around legalistic, manipulative fundamentalist. (what is a fundament anyway?)
i suggest williston walkers history of the christian church which is an excellent history.. but to be honest i've read quite a few books on christian history and have never seen anything that said the church started in 300. i've also never seen anything to imply that before christianity was legalized it didn't have all the peculiar catholic attributes, like eucharist, infant baptism, saints, etc etc.
lastly the bible wasn't canonized until the late 300's. using g4's logic we should assume that the bible is untrustworthy because it comes too late and was formed by the church he claims is false. why on earth would you accept anything from a source you consider is unreliable is beyond me.. but that is what every anti catholic does. they accept the authority of the church for the new testament but reject everything else.. thats just insane to me. clearly people like that aren't thinking right.
There you go again..TELLING LIES, It's a good job you are already going to hell. |
| mikejuli |
Posted - 05/25/2012 : 03:13:45
there is not difference g4 except the difference in your own imagination. stop telling lies and start manning up to the truth. or not. it really doesn't matter cause anyone with half a brain can simply do their own homework and find the truth. it's what i did and thats why i left your manipulative cult.
fact the catholic church was already alive and well long before the imaginary claim of the year 300..
fact speaking in tongues is a game pentacostals play to have fun and make jesus more exciting. cause they are too bored with the truth.
fact pentacostalism started in the early 1900's which placed them 1600 years after the imaginary claim of 300 for the catholic church.
fact g4 is untrustworthy, a mocker, a liar, a cheat, a manipulater and your all around legalistic, manipulative fundamentalist. (what is a fundament anyway?)
i suggest williston walkers history of the christian church which is an excellent history.. but to be honest i've read quite a few books on christian history and have never seen anything that said the church started in 300. i've also never seen anything to imply that before christianity was legalized it didn't have all the peculiar catholic attributes, like eucharist, infant baptism, saints, etc etc.
lastly the bible wasn't canonized until the late 300's. using g4's logic we should assume that the bible is untrustworthy because it comes too late and was formed by the church he claims is false. why on earth would you accept anything from a source you consider is unreliable is beyond me.. but that is what every anti catholic does. they accept the authority of the church for the new testament but reject everything else.. thats just insane to me. clearly people like that aren't thinking right. |
| God4me |
Posted - 05/24/2012 : 22:12:14
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Originally posted by baby3
Hey G4 I am not that interested in what they confess as much as the history of the church that is what I want to prove or unprove and how to go about it> If you have a ghost proving it is better then saying you got a ghost.
The history of the catholic chirch, Is, They weren't formed by the devil until at least 300-600 years after Jesus built His TRUE Church.
The History of the TRUE Chucrh, Is, It started on the day of pentecost and has been going ever since.
The difference between the TRUe Church and the catholic church is,
The TRUE Church is a Spirit filled tongue talking Bible believing Church, Whereas the catholic church is a devil filled Bible UN-believing false church who believe the catholic councils, the pope's porkies and the catholic con-men. |
| baby3 |
Posted - 05/24/2012 : 19:01:27
Hey G4 I am not that interested in what they confess as much as the history of the church that is what I want to prove or unprove and how to go about it> If you have a ghost proving it is better then saying you got a ghost. |
| God4me |
Posted - 05/23/2012 : 23:17:11
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Originally posted by bwellmysoul
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Originally posted by God4me
Even God hates the catholic church, Are you saying He is a sinner as well??.
Stop talking for God. His ways are far above our ways. Your will to be prejudiced and full of hate push you toward believing that you can speak for God.
I believe in confessing sins to God, Not to a man made priest.
The way in which you confess your sins to God is unbiblical and you're not to be faulted for that unless you realize that the Catholic Church is the true Church which Christ created.
Self confession of your mortal sins to Jesus was man-made through the actions of men during the Reformation - the birth of relativism.
Jesus instituted His Church and He ordained the Apostles with offices of authority within His Church.
What you should have said, Was,
"The catholic way of confessing to an un-Biblical priest, Is un-Biblical"..GET IT RIGHT.
Where does the Bible's New Testament Church say we have to confess to a priest??. |
| God4me |
Posted - 05/23/2012 : 23:13:22
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Originally posted by bwellmysoul
"...penance, Indulgencies, Satisfactions, And believe you have to go through purgatory."
It's unclear to me, do Pentecostals have an awareness of sin, what it is, where it hides, what it does to a soul, etc.?
Do Pentecostals have regret, sorrow, etc for their personal lack of permanance and connectivity to the Holy Spirit?
Do Pentecostals believe that because the Holy Spirit indwells them, that their human condition is "poofed" with instant and absolute "holiness"?
It's shocking actually to me, that you seemingly have never developed or expressed a penitent spirit about your human will.
Jesus said, "Be holy...."
He didn't say, "I've zapped you with holiness, therefore you are holy." "Nothing further is expected from you."
What has that got to do with, Penance, Indugencies, satisfation and purgatory for the cleansing of sins??.
WKAE UP DOPEY. |
| God4me |
Posted - 05/23/2012 : 23:10:45
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Originally posted by bwellmysoul
I believe Sacred Scripture, and St. Paul when he said that the Church is the pillar and bulwark of Truth.
I believe Sacred Scripture when it writes that Jesus breathed the Holy Spirit onto His 10 Apostles in the Upper Room and said, "Whose sins you forgive, they are forgiven. Whose sins you hold bound, they are held bound."
Jesus delegated His Authority to forgive or hold sins bound to His Apostolic Church.
As I've said before, He didn't give you His authority to forgive your own sins.
He built His Church and gave that authority to His Apostles.
[1]The TRUE Church is the pillar and ground of truth, Not the catholics.
[2]You don't believe the Bible..STOP TELLING LIES.
If you did, You would know that Jesus never gave His disciple authority to remit sins.
He give every Christian the authority to declare to the repentant person, That their sins are forgiven and remmited, Thats all that Jesus said to them.
[3]Of cause that includes me, I'm a Christian who know when a person has repented and been born again, So I can tell them their sins are remmited.
Jesus did build His Church, [The Christians], And gave us they authority. |
| michael |
Posted - 05/23/2012 : 18:01:42
God4me what you need to understand is that you are not Protesting the Catholic Church you are Protesting Protestantism perjudgements or pejudices of the Catholic Church.
Protestants become filled with hate of the Catholic Church over their false judgements of it.
Based off their false judgements of the Catholic Church Protestants create their beliefs off of being opposed to them not the actual Catholic Church.
The Catholic Church can see the diffrence between what it believes & the false judgements Protestants have as clear as day but since Protestants only have their false judgements of the Catholic Church all Protestants can see is their false judgements making it next to impossible for Protestants to break free from their false judgements.
Protestants really believe their false judgements of the Catholic Church & beliefs based on them.
God4me you seem to always be filled with wrath & hate.
Wrath does not really hurt the people the wrathful person is wrathful toward but wrath eats the person who is wrathful from the inside out.
I can feel the wrath & hate in your posts. |
| baby3 |
Posted - 05/23/2012 : 15:20:32
G4 your a man made pastor aren't you? How many people come to you to confess something they did that was wrong? They have marital problems or adultery? You never hear their confession? God said to confess your sins to one and other Look it up it's written down. |
| bwellmysoul |
Posted - 05/23/2012 : 11:34:08
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Originally posted by God4me
Even God hates the catholic church, Are you saying He is a sinner as well??.
Stop talking for God. His ways are far above our ways. Your will to be prejudiced and full of hate push you toward believing that you can speak for God.
I believe in confessing sins to God, Not to a man made priest.
The way in which you confess your sins to God is unbiblical and you're not to be faulted for that unless you realize that the Catholic Church is the true Church which Christ created.
Self confession of your mortal sins to Jesus was man-made through the actions of men during the Reformation - the birth of relativism.
Jesus instituted His Church and He ordained the Apostles with offices of authority within His Church.
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| baby3 |
Posted - 05/23/2012 : 11:20:32
For me it is your Faith that saves you with Baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost which can be anything he wishes to bestow upon you:), but if you are a Christian then you show your Faith by your good and fine works.Now A child may have faith but may not be in a position to show many good and fine works His good works would be to be obedient to his parents and the school and authority, if his parents have brought him up in the church laws teaching children is a job of both parents never just one and all that the bible teaches.But to each person God has given a measure of Faith, my question is how much Faith does each one have? How can you measure this? OH! By their fruits which are good works cause if you have no good works then Faith without Works makes the faith void!(Dead) Stopped,ended, no effect,there fore put on the whole armour of Christ so you can with stand the whiles of the devil, then even so with stand:)Our God is an awesome God and he can take the foolish things of this world to confound the wise:) |
| bwellmysoul |
Posted - 05/23/2012 : 10:27:26
"...penance, Indulgencies, Satisfactions, And believe you have to go through purgatory."
It's unclear to me, do Pentecostals have an awareness of sin, what it is, where it hides, what it does to a soul, etc.?
Do Pentecostals have regret, sorrow, etc for their personal lack of permanance and connectivity to the Holy Spirit?
Do Pentecostals believe that because the Holy Spirit indwells them, that their human condition is "poofed" with instant and absolute "holiness"?
It's shocking actually to me, that you seemingly have never developed or expressed a penitent spirit about your human will.
Jesus said, "Be holy...."
He didn't say, "I've zapped you with holiness, therefore you are holy." "Nothing further is expected from you."
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| bwellmysoul |
Posted - 05/23/2012 : 10:18:07
I believe Sacred Scripture, and St. Paul when he said that the Church is the pillar and bulwark of Truth.
I believe Sacred Scripture when it writes that Jesus breathed the Holy Spirit onto His 10 Apostles in the Upper Room and said, "Whose sins you forgive, they are forgiven. Whose sins you hold bound, they are held bound."
Jesus delegated His Authority to forgive or hold sins bound to His Apostolic Church.
As I've said before, He didn't give you His authority to forgive your own sins.
He built His Church and gave that authority to His Apostles.
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