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It was reasonable of Him to do so.
Admin runs this site to the best of his ability.
Maybe you should address it with him?
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If admin did what I did, and kept a subscription to the thread going, then he might have noticed that there were many notices of a "new post" by the "original Poster" and when clicking over, there would often not be a new post.
In other words, he probably noticed that the "view" numbers were being manipulated by a cheap trick, which was only one of many "flags" on the original poster's lack of "good faith" that I saw that caused me to recommend Admin look at it and at least lock it, last week.
As it was, he had about five other reasons to delete that thread.
Thank you Admin, for putting a lid on it. Any reasonable participant in a board knows to respect that type of decision.
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I have no idea what's going stuff.
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In other words, he probably noticed that the "view" numbers were being manipulated by a cheap trick, which was only one of many "flags" on the original poster's lack of "good faith" that I saw that caused me to recommend Admin look at it and at least lock it, last week.
As it was, he had about five other reasons to delete that thread.
IMO, there were just as many red flags being raised by your allegations against Pabby that made the thread problematic. Again, unsubstantiated speculation about others' motives and other groups are a form of rash judgment that has not been a part of Spero's standard operating procedure until fairly recently, in this section in particular.
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I agree with alcovey.
"Look on the bright side, if this is the best they've got around here, in six months we'll be running this planet." (Planet of the Apes)
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TO ADMIN,
THANK-YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING A PERSON OF YOUR WORD. IT IS RARE NOW-ADAY. WE MUST ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT OUR TONGUE IS A FIRE, A WORLD OF INIQUITY. LEFT UNCHECKED IT IS A AN UNRULY EVIL, FULL OF DEADLY POISON. ON THE OTHER HAND, THE WORDS OF THE RIGHTEOUS FEED MANY. I KNOW I'M NOT ALWAYS PERFECT, OR EVEN CLOSE FOR THAT MATTER, BUT I AM WORKING ON LETTING MY WORDS FEED THOSE TO WHOM I SPEAK. I STILL HAVE A WAYS TO GO, BUT WE ARE WORKING ON IT, THE LORD AND I THAT IS.
WHAT IS SERVICE?
But what do we arrive at? The point is: What is service? What is the meaning of being the servant of God? Can you put your finger upon it? Go to Mary again. What is the law? To bring God back into His world, and that is the only service of God. Service is comprehended in that one thing - making a place for God, bringing God back into His right place, seeing that He is not excluded from His world. The presence of God is the great law of everything in service. Mary brought God back into this world, so she was "highly graced", supremely honored. It was not just an angel, or a little cherub, that was sent to her, but the archangel Gabriel was sent from GOD to this woman Mary, because she was to be the vessel and the channel of bringing God back into this world. Is that not tremendous? Is Mary redeemed now? Has she got a new place? But it is not Mary herself. It is Mary as the bondservant of God. And it is not what we are in ourselves, but just a matter of how much of God is brought back to this world by our being here.
Dear friends, is that what the service of God means to you? It is not the place, nor the person. The place may be a stable and the person a simple woman. It is nothing of the glory of this world. Oh, how men have made a mistake over this! They think that in order to have God present they must have a very elaborate building, with some very important persons, Lord this and Baron that, with a cathedral here and a cathedral there - and the Word says: "The Most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands" (Acts 7:48). Where is God? "Wheresoever two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them" (Matthew 18:20). That can be anywhere, in anything, but the point is this: we are here, dear friends, as the Lord's people to be His servants, and true service is bringing God back where we are. Do you understand that? Why am I here? Why are you here? Why are you wherever you are? Our presence ought to mean the presence of the Lord.
You see, God has been seeking a place for His feet all through the ages. He raised up the men I have mentioned in order that He should be brought back to this world. He raised up Israel in order to bring Him back, and said: "Let them make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them" (Exodus 25:8). The Old Testament is just about that one thing - a few men bringing God back. That is the meaning of the priesthood, for it was just to bring God back. That is the meaning of the kingship. The supreme king said: "I will not come into the tabernacle of my house, nor go up into my bed; I will not give sleep to mine eyes, or slumber to mine eyelids; until I find out a place for the Lord" (Psalm 132:3-4). David was a very imperfect man, and Mary, I expect, was a very imperfect woman, but it was where their hearts were and what was the purpose of their lives that mattered, and that was to bring back the Lord. Israel was raised up to bring God back into the midst of the nations. In the end they failed, and you close the Old Testament. Then you open the New Testament with Mary of Nazareth, and God coming back through this simple woman.
I repeat, it is a costly thing to be here for God, but it is a glorious thing, because heaven IS interested. The angels of God are rejoicing if there is anything of God in this world. The wise men and the poor shepherds were all wondering what this thing meant. They did not understand it - but there was another one who knew what it
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Not all substantiation belongs in a public thread. Pabby knows that he was moving private disagreement into the public thread when I told him to stop.
Alcovey, you had once tried to bait me into posting the names of private individuals affected by cult tactics when I posted criticism of the public author of books who has a history of such tactics, and you called criticism of that author "calumny" even though, as a public figure, his activities are open to all to investigate for themselves.
You also drove out a PROTESTANT poster who knew the author and shared my criticisms except from a PROTESTANT point of view that the same author had betrayed the Presbyterians the way he is now betraying us Catholics. YOU did that because you knew that if people saw such divergent believers agree on what this man is doing TO DESTROY ALL MAINSTREAM CHRISTIANITY, they would tend to agree with us. YOU don't seem to want anyone to actually protect the Catholic PEOPLE from assaults on our parishes, our families, and our children.
I was completely surprised by Pabby's lack of ettiquette when he sent me an attachment and asked me to click it open to give him an "opinion", and when I did actually check the site related to the attachment in Google's cache (a relatively safe way to glimpse unknown sites) I gave him the simple and perfectly respectable opinion that hte site looked "risky" because it mixed adult content with adolescent and childre's material and especially role-playing, which is well-known to be like fly-paper for pedophiles.
Pabby refused to answer my question of why he sent that attachment. Inbstead he engaged in puerile and evasive and manipulative tactics until I flat out said "no more communication" at which he decided to started posting to me to force a reply, PERHAPS KNOWING HE COULD COUNT ON YOU AS AN ALLY, ALCOVEY?
Alcovey, do you really think you can continue to slander ME by saying I have no "proof" just because I don't play YOUR game of posting to your baiting demands?
ALCOVEY, YOU ARE DEFENDING THAT PEDOPHILE SITE?
What are YOU Alcovey?
Here is some posting proof for you alcovey:
I had a lengthy email exchange with Pabbyman2000, who is using this board to "mark out" a Catholic youth group for predators in all the cults that cruise the internet while he pretends to attack cults in order to use the terms he knows will get his theatre troupe noticed by members of those cults.
YOU, alcovey, as an admin in this board, share responsibility for allowing this to go on. It is "targetted marketting" that Pabbymann2000 is doing, and the young members of that theatre troupe are the "commodity" that he is marketing.
You people with your whining defensiveness are worsde than disgusting.
MILL-STONE AROUND THE NECK, YOU KNOW WHO SAID THAT IS WHAT IS FOR THOSE WHO "OFFEND" THE LITTLE ONES? hmm? WHO SAID THAT, ALCOVEY?
In MY Bible, it is Jesus who said that.
ARE YOU CATHOLIC? THEN READ THE CATECHISM! READ THE PART ABOUT SINS THAT CRY OUT JUSTICE! LOOK AT WHAT YOU ARE LETTING THIS BOARD BE USED FOR!
This is not about opinions, it is about the practical use of this board as a marketting device to endanger youth.
Believe me, if you continue to allow Patrick Flanagan to sell the youthful members of his theatre troupe to predators through this board, YOU will find yourself answering for why you are doing this, ALCOVEY, as well as Admin, if you are not the same person!
The FBI has begun to recognize the practice of "marking out" as a criminal act, not prosecutable in itself but certainly worthy of investigation. This "marking out" is what Flanagan is doing by offering pictures and location information on all the members of his theatre troupe to people engaged in these discussions in this board.
THERE IS NO HEALTHY REASON FOR FLANAGAN TO BE EXPOSING THOSE YOUNG CATHOLICS TO THE PREDATORS WHO ARE GOOGLING ON CULTS ETC AND PICKING UP THIS THREAD EVERY TIME THEY DO!
There is a
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I also agree with alcovey. Posts like the above are unnecessary.
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Oh, and I can assure you that Admin and Alcovey are definitely not the same person.
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...and... Reformed is still an active participant here. So no one "drove out" anyone.
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Alcovey is not an admin nor a moderator of this board either.
"Look on the bright side, if this is the best they've got around here, in six months we'll be running this planet." (Planet of the Apes)
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Though he once was a moderator... one reading through old posts could get confused over that, I suppose.
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Denise,
Your response illustrates perfectly why the other thread got out of control and had to be shut down. When you get defensive you lash out and make accusations.
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Not all substantiation belongs in a public thread. Pabby knows that he was moving private disagreement into the public thread when I told him to stop.
It seemed to me like he was trying to figure out why you were so upset over an attachment, and it just escalated from there.
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Alcovey, you had once tried to bait me into posting the names of private individuals affected by cult tactics when I posted criticism of the public author of books who has a history of such tactics
I have no interest in private individuals or their details - quite the opposite. It is inappropriate to discuss them in an open forum - nor do I have a problem exposing public figures - but I do want to see evidence and not just innuendo and allegations or I am not going to receive them. There is a reasonable threshhold of proof that is necessary if one wants to be credible.
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and you called criticism of that author "calumny" even though, as a public figure, his activities are open to all to investigate for themselves.
Yes, and I never saw any 'activities' that warranted the charges being made - that was, and remains the issue with me.
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You also drove out a PROTESTANT poster who knew the author and shared my criticisms except from a PROTESTANT point of view that the same author had betrayed the Presbyterians the way he is now betraying us Catholics. YOU did that because you knew that if people saw such divergent believers agree on what this man is doing TO DESTROY ALL MAINSTREAM CHRISTIANITY, they would tend to agree with us. YOU don't seem to want anyone to actually protect the Catholic PEOPLE from assaults on our parishes, our families, and our children.
That's just plain manipulation.
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I was completely surprised by Pabby's lack of ettiquette when he sent me an attachment and asked me to click it open to give him an "opinion", and when I did actually check the site related to the attachment in Google's cache (a relatively safe way to glimpse unknown sites) I gave him the simple and perfectly respectable opinion that hte site looked "risky" because it mixed adult content with adolescent and childre's material and especially role-playing, which is well-known to be like fly-paper for pedophiles.
OK, that is where the problem all started. It was you who brought up the issue of pedophilia and it being 'risky'. That is why I say that you share in the responsibility at least as much as Pabby.
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Pabby refused to answer my question of why he sent that attachment. Inbstead he engaged in puerile and evasive and manipulative tactics until I flat out said "no more communication" at which he decided to started posting
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Alcovey, you are transparent.
Your own post supports everything I have said about you.
"Marking out" is not "promoting". He has posted pictures of young people and their rehearsal schedules and physical locations while actively seeking conversations in pedophile boards. It is targetted marketting that is clearly targetting a specific market. The same science that empowers people to exploit these techniques, empowers watchers to identify the exploitation.
That was not MY invitation, regarding the eruption of the pedophile site here. He completely surprised me with the link to that board in an unsolicited email. I replied to his attempt to get me involved in that board with a gentle warning and a reply to his own request for an opinion, because I still thought his worst problem was lack of judgement.
Why should I reveal the entire contents of our email exchange to you or anyone in this board? Pabby is the one using this board to enable youth stalkers with specific info, and that does not mean at all that it should be shut down.
Admin can easily ask people to use better judgement regarding access to youth groups personal info via link trails. It is his own judgement call.
Law enforcement authorities in the churches and in society-at-large do have standards of what to notice about this type of behavior and they do take reports from concerned watchers very seriously. They don't go after the boards, they stop the individual predators.
You won't succeed in shutting down this cult board, Alcovey. It is too important to young Catholics and Protestants alike who need to understand these issues for themselves.
I think that is what you are trying to do, regarding any discussion of either Scott Hahn or any of the predatory cults.
You are clever, but you will not succeed.
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