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The drug use might explain some of the weird things he's said. I always thought he looked stoned in his recent appearances and was slurring his speech.
If you knew someone abusing prescription drugs, would you intervene?
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If someone I knew was abusing drugs and I knew about it, I would definitely intervene. Unfortunately, in the entertainment world, the person who knows someone else is doing drugs, is either participating or enabling an not likely to help until it's too late.
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TMZ had some news earlier in the week reporting that Jackson was visiting his dermatologist every day. I think this doctor is going to be in some trouble.
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Not to be off-topic, but what does everyone here think about the past accusations of MJ molesting children? Do you think he was guilty of any of them?
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The jury said OJ didn't commit murder.
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right... I'm not questioning the obvious infallibility and corruption of our system of justice... televised court cases aside, do you think he was as bad as he was portrayed to be, or was he perhaps misunderstood due to his eccentricity or being "different" in general?
The reason I ask is that me and a friend talked about it, and we couldn't help but notice the similarity between MJ's reputation and the bigoted reputation of the Church. I'm not saying that his rep is on the same level of importance as that of the RCC, but one can not deny that they do share the same arguable dark reputation.
If Michael Jackson was to molest a child at one time, others could easily get away with falsely accusing him of that same crime. In the same way, a single case of sexual abuse within the infiltrated gates of the Catholic Church leads to/has led to several more accusations of the same nature.
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*sigh* life is so short. money nor fame is not worth it.
we can only pray for MJ's soul.
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Not to be off-topic, but what does everyone here think about the past accusations of MJ molesting children? Do you think he was guilty of any of them?
Michael Jackson didn't simply live under a cloud of suspicion based on vague accusations. Back in the 90s when Micheal payed that boy twenty million to settle, he was pretty much as good as found guilty. The boy had described, in graphic detail, Jackson's genital markings-- not something any person could have known without coming into close, personal contact with a naked Michael Jackson. And even since all that, Michael still seemed to make no attempt at staying away from young boys, even going so far as to admit sleeping in the same bed with them during sleepovers. I think he was certainly troubled about a variety of things, but I imagine not the least of these was what had occurred between he and his victims. It's been reported now by those present at his autopsy that he was riddled with needle holes and was virtually bald, most likely from all his drug use and an eating disorder. I think the man was probably a cocktail of psychological disorders, but at the heart of it all, if we really look at all his behavior through the years, it's clear he couldn't stand the person he saw when he looked in the mirror. Inside or out.
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Careful there Kim. That "leaked" autopsy report you are quoting has been denounced by both the original medical examiner and the private medical examiner hired by the family. It was a complete fabrication.
I am concerned with MJ's fascination with young boys, but we do not know the full details, only that it was not right. Michael Jackson had serious problems, was reportedly addicted to painkillers, and I would never have left my sons with him for a sleep-over - but it does not help us or him to engage in idle speculation or spreading rumours.
I feel very sorry for any children who may have been harmed and will keep them in my prayers. If he has harmed them, they need healing.
As for Michael, where-ever he ended up, that is between him and God. May God have mercy on his soul.
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I think a lot of Michael Jackson's problems stem from when he was a child, although very talented, his father abused him, and had obviously left psychological scars. I feel sorry for him,he was very troubled and imature. HIs bizarre bahaviour with young boys nearly finished his career. The sleep-overs were part of his imaturity and insecurity, I wouldn't really like to think he assualted them.
As an entertainer he was phenomenal and had the most beautiful smile. He unfortunately had a skin condition called Lupus, which causes patches on the skin, so he wore makeup to mask it. But the facial surgery was a disaster and he knew it. Such a shame.
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His white skin was self-inflicted. He lied when he said you couldn't bleach your skin. Asia (and Africa) has a notorious skin-bleaching industry, of which many Western cosmetic companies take part.
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Right. And the skin condition is called vitiligo. But I don't believe he had it either.
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And if he did, it is interesting that he would use make-up to make himself light. It would have been easier to go dark. Vitiligo does not cause pigments to fade out uniformly, but rather in patches. Dark make-up would have provided better coverage if that is what he had.
Of course darker make-up would have clashed with his caucasian nose and lip jobs.
Ironically, he was a handsome young man before any of his surgeries.
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Originally posted by Diana Holberg
Right. And the skin condition is called vitiligo. But I don't believe he had it either.
Thank you for the correction Diana.
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It seems that Flos may have something.
Lupis and Vitiligo
This peaked my curiosity, and the topic was the use of the single white glove, the umbrella and the mask.
I already knew why MJ used the mask, but the other two did not make sense other than as a clever fashion statement. But it makes sense that if MJ did have Lupus (explains the occasional use of a wheelchair) and also Vitiligo, wearing a single white glove to hide initial manifestation on one hand would be rather clever.
It has been reported that he was diagnosed with both some time back.
The following are some links on Lupus:
Lupus
PubMed: Lupus
A link is being investigated between the two, but not definite, not confirmed at this time. That does not mean that one person cannot have both.
PubMed: Lupus Vitiligo link?
Whether or not MJ had either, I have no idea.
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