Can a great faith Christian raise micheal Jackson
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Can a great faith Christian raise micheal Jackson from the dead??The bible does say we can do greater things as jesus , and we can cast out demon raise the dead, so I thought about MJ and if he was to be raised from the dead it would be a great witness to the christian more... I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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[quote]i could compare all sorts of things that really have no real relation too evan... but what would be the point of that. i mean the jw's were at my house a few weeks ago and they stole the same bible you did from the church and are using it for their own purposes. the mormons have prophets and charismatics and pentacostals also claim to have prophets... though i think they are really just trying to make a profit.... so they can show everyone how rich god has made them which is really what the modern churches have changed the gospel to/quote]
Why would they think they are not blessed we believe the scriptures:
Eph:1:1: Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:
Eph:1:2: Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Eph:1:3: Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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ah so an airplane is a spiritual blessing? now i get it... godliness is a means to financial gain after all. how could i have been so blind.... where is your plane? ooooops. wait a minute... i guess your not blessed... so sad for you evan... too bad your not really blessed like credflo or hinn.... if the evangelicals actually knew what that verse meant.... they wouldn't waste their money on the kings of spiritual masturbation but return to a more ancient and simple faith... blessed are the meek.........
The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it.
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How did treasure in Heaven and spiritual blessings get perverted into monetary wealth and earthly possessions?
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Malachi 1:11 "For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name [shall be] great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense [shall be] offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name [shall be] great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts."
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ah so an airplane is a spiritual blessing? now i get it... godliness is a means to financial gain after all. how could i have been so blind.... where is your plane? ooooops. wait a minute... i guess your not blessed... so sad for you evan... too bad your not really blessed like credflo or hinn.... if the evangelicals actually knew what that verse meant.... they wouldn't waste their money on the kings of spiritual masturbation but return to a more ancient and simple faith... blessed are the meek.........
First of I donb'z want a plane I would like a helicopter instead of my own instead of the ones I charter like your pope does also!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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ah so an airplane is a spiritual blessing? now i get it... godliness is a means to financial gain after all. how could i have been so blind.... where is your plane? ooooops. wait a minute... i guess your not blessed... so sad for you evan... too bad your not really blessed like credflo or hinn.... if the evangelicals actually knew what that verse meant.... they wouldn't waste their money on the kings of spiritual masturbation but return to a more ancient and simple faith... blessed are the meek.........
First of I donb'z want a plane I would like a helicopter instead of my own instead of the ones I charter like your pope does also!
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so the pope is just like you?
The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it.
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ah so an airplane is a spiritual blessing? now i get it... godliness is a means to financial gain after all. how could i have been so blind.... where is your plane? ooooops. wait a minute... i guess your not blessed... so sad for you evan... too bad your not really blessed like credflo or hinn.... if the evangelicals actually knew what that verse meant.... they wouldn't waste their money on the kings of spiritual masturbation but return to a more ancient and simple faith... blessed are the meek.........
First of I donb'z want a plane I would like a helicopter instead of my own instead of the ones I charter like your pope does also!
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so the pope is just like you?
No i mean charter of transportations, but I wouldm't want to be like the RCC pope!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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don't worry i wouldn't copmare you to the pope evan.
The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it.
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don't worry i wouldn't copmare you to the pope evan.
thanks mike I don't weant to go that low, aND FOR religious men too high!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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evan, you trip me out.
"There are water and tears; the water of baptism and the tears of repentance." -St. Ambrose“
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i know evan... going low doesn't fit with the prosperity gospel.:0
Mat 23:11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
Mat 23:12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
this verse is the key to understanding why catholics don't have a problem with the pope or bishops or priests... because we know they are servants, which compared to the arrogance of many evangelical pastors and televangelists..... enough said.
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evan, you trip me out.
Thanks!
You make me feel like Apostle Paul as he also trip religous leaders and people out with the truth!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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i know evan... going low doesn't fit with the prosperity gospel.:0
Mat 23:11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
Mat 23:12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
this verse is the key to understanding why catholics don't have a problem with the pope or bishops or priests... because we know they are servants, which compared to the arrogance of many evangelical pastors and televangelists..... enough said.
I thought the vatican is in the position of the high power of the visible churchy and has it own prideful authority!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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How can it be prideful when Jesus Christ set it up? The Pope is our servant, doing the will of God. Admittedly, it is possible for a servant of God to rebel and be less than christ-like, but I do not see that very often in the Papacy.
The Church must be visible or else who could find it? Other groups also make themselves visible through the media and other means, but claim an invisible church in order to unite themselves with other Christians even when they do not agree. That is not unity. And that is not what Christ prayed for when He asked that we be one as He and the Father are One.
The Pope has a position of high responsibility. The priests and bishops also have positions of responsibility. They are shepherds for Christ's Flock and will be held accountable for the work that they do or fail to do. Too many others just seek power and glory for themselves. They claim Christ, but live for themselves.
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Malachi 1:11 "For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name [shall be] great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense [shall be] offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name [shall be] great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts."
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