Can a great faith Christian raise micheal Jackson
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Can a great faith Christian raise micheal Jackson from the dead??The bible does say we can do greater things as jesus , and we can cast out demon raise the dead, so I thought about MJ and if he was to be raised from the dead it would be a great witness to the christian more... I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Originally posted by acumenCry
Do you not think Rev. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson played a hand at MJ's supposed conversion? Publicity does seem to be important to them.  I thought MJ was raised JW and turned to Islam... seems funny that he would convert all of the sudden.
http://www.limelife.com/blog-entry/M...Days/7224.html
what shall we believe without being a false bearer?
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Wait... I thought you said he converted to Christianity, evan. Am I mistaken?
"There are water and tears; the water of baptism and the tears of repentance." -St. Ambrose“
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Originally posted by acumenCry
Wait... I thought you said he converted to Christianity, evan. Am I mistaken?
Yes he did but just to show how other wished he had a hindu funeral bit the proof he didn't shows that this is another lie from religion and A RELIGIOUS SPIRIT!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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the truth is no one knows if mj is saved or not...
The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it.
Flannery O'Connor
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Seems someone is a little fickle. But I would not believe everything written about MJ. Everyone wants a piece of him, even now that he is gone.
I am curious. Evangelist, in your religion, If a born again Christian seeks to follow Hinuism and/or Islam but has not denied Christ, is he still saved?
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Malachi 1:11 "For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name [shall be] great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense [shall be] offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name [shall be] great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts."
Edited by Faith_at_Large on 07/08/2009 18:52:58
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Originally posted by mikejuli
the truth is no one knows if mj is saved or not...
Well: He didn't get baptized or made any ritual religously or went to a preist and did some kind of sacraficed but the Evangelist said and witness for himself that He confessed Jesus as Lord and if he did that with his heart without the other religious things to do he would be called saved , born again and has eternal redeption and is in perfect righteousness, and pure Holy like Jesus is in heaven now in his spirit.
But only really God knows if he made the heart decission and acepted Jesus in his heart for real or not, but we will all know when we get to heaven!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Originally posted by Faith_at_Large
Seems someone is a little fickle. But I would not believe everything written about MJ. Everyone wants a piece of him, even now that he is gone.
I am curious. Evangelist, in your religion, If a born again Christian seeks to follow Hinuism and/or Islam but has not denied Christ, is he still saved?
If a person is saved that mean They accepted Jesus Christ the Son of God into their heart and is born again and that make them automatically a christian , oe Christ follower not a muslim or whatever else will do that!
You can't say you are saved and follow satanism , or still be an athiest and say you are a saved satanist or saved stanist, Muslim or hindu!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Our God is a jealous God and we will have no other gods before Him. But some Christians just get confused. They think that God speaks through all people, which He does to a point, and that this somehow means that all of the "truths" that may appear elsewhere validate the other religions from which they come.
New Age paganism is widespread even within Christianity. It pops up in the strangest places, and should not be accepted within our midst.
Evangelist, you should study a little more so that you can recognize it when it pops up in Christian circles, and see where it already has.
Pax et Bonum,
Faith_at_Large
Malachi 1:11 "For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name [shall be] great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense [shall be] offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name [shall be] great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts."
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Yes i very well believe that. (may I let you know it has been two weeks already), But i still believe it!! god said we have the power to raise the dead, he didn't say how long they've been dead. Read about lazarus. just as long as he believes jesus is the son of god.
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Originally posted by Faith_at_Large
Our God is a jealous God and we will have no other gods before Him. But some Christians just get confused. They think that God speaks through all people, which He does to a point, and that this somehow means that all of the "truths" that may appear elsewhere validate the other religions from which they come.
New Age paganism is widespread even within Christianity. It pops up in the strangest places, and should not be accepted within our midst.
Evangelist, you should study a little more so that you can recognize it when it pops up in Christian circles, and see where it already has.
If I tell you where the paganism is in the RCC you will think you are more an paganist than catholic!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Doubtful. I know what others think are pagan influences in my Church and I know real paganism. I know why my Church did the things it did through the centuries and what exactly was done.
For example, I celebrate Christ's birth on December 25th, not Sol Invictus. Yet how many so-called Christians are all upset with the Catholic Church for eliminating the Pagan celebration of Sol Invictus (in honor of the pagan sun God) and replacing it with a Christian holiday?
You are not one of those fighting to remove Christmas and restore Sol Invictus again are you?
Pax et Bonum,
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Malachi 1:11 "For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name [shall be] great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense [shall be] offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name [shall be] great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts."
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Originally posted by lovingly18
Yes i very well believe that. (may I let you know it has been two weeks already), But i still believe it!! god said we have the power to raise the dead, he didn't say how long they've been dead. Read about lazarus. just as long as he believes jesus is the son of god.
No one here is doubting God's ability to raize anyone from the dead. God could raise Elvis Presley even now if he so chose. But what good purpose would it serve to raise Michael Jackson?
Pax et Bonum,
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Malachi 1:11 "For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name [shall be] great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense [shall be] offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name [shall be] great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts."
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None whatever. In fact, people would worship MJ if that happened. (They already do.)
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Originally posted by Faith_at_Large
Our God is a jealous God and we will have no other gods before Him. But some Christians just get confused. They think that God speaks through all people, which He does to a point, and that this somehow means that all of the "truths" that may appear elsewhere validate the other religions from which they come.
New Age paganism is widespread even within Christianity. It pops up in the strangest places, and should not be accepted within our midst.
Evangelist, you should study a little more so that you can recognize it when it pops up in Christian circles, and see where it already has.
If I tell you where the paganism is in the RCC you will think you are more an paganist than catholic!
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You would have to break the 8th commandment to do it.
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If I tell you where the paganism is in the RCC you will think you are more an paganist than catholic!
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don't be silly evan... didn't we already clear up the pagan garbage a few years ago? if your gonna pull the pagan argument then go ahead but don't just play it for the catholics.... play it to the full. the problem is that the pagan/christian argument is a bunch of silly rambling from pseudo historians with anti church agendas and silly evangelicals who are always looking to debunk catholicism have adopted that argument without a clue that the argument isn't about catholic beliefs but also about their beliefs too. it's like pulling the pin on a grenade to blow up your enemy while your standing right next to them. silly.
The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it.
Flannery O'Connor
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