Can a great faith Christian raise micheal Jackson
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Can a great faith Christian raise micheal Jackson from the dead??The bible does say we can do greater things as jesus , and we can cast out demon raise the dead, so I thought about MJ and if he was to be raised from the dead it would be a great witness to the christian more... I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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I know that he was not for his biography says that he was born to an Armenian (Gentile) mother and an Orthodox Greek father. How did he get to be born Jewish from non-Jewish parents? Or did he lie?
His name Benny does not come from Benjeman but from Benedictus, a very nice Orthodox Christian name. Perhaps named for St. Benedict.
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Malachi 1:11 "For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name [shall be] great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense [shall be] offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name [shall be] great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts."
Edited by Faith_at_Large on 07/21/2009 11:42:42
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I know that he was not for his biography says that he was born to an Armenian (Gentile) mother and an Orthodox Greek father. How did he get to be born Jewish from non-Jewish parents? Or did he lie?
His name Benny does not come from Benjeman but from Benedictus, a very nice Orthodox Christian name. Perhaps named for St. Benedict.
BIOGRAPHY
Benny Hinn was born Toufik Benedictus Hinn in the coastal city of Jaffa in Israel in 1952. He was one of eight children born to an Armenian mother and a Greek father. The family was Greek Orthodox. In 1968, they emigrated to Canada settling in Toronto and Benny, who by this time was a young teenager, began attending Georges Vanier High school, north of Toronto.
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http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4822470/CBC_The_Fifth_Estate__Expose_of_TV_Evangelist_Benny_Hinn
I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Exactly. Neither of his parents were Jewish, so how did he become Jewish? Greek Orthodox is not Judaism. And Armenians are not Jewish either.
And Benedictus is not a Jewish name but a very good Greek Orthodox name.
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Malachi 1:11 "For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name [shall be] great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense [shall be] offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name [shall be] great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts."
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Exactly. Neither of his parents were Jewish, so how did he become Jewish? Greek Orthodox is not Judaism. And Armenians are not Jewish either.
And Benedictus is not a Jewish name but a very good Greek Orthodox name.
Was Benny a borned citizen of Israel, and has his birth right as a Iraelite??
Maybe I should start another thread on Benny Hinn alone again!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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I was born in Germany by Canadian parents. While I could have claimed German citizen ship, I am not automatically a German.
And if my parents had travelled to Isreal when I was due to be born and I had been born in Isreal, that would not automatically make me Jewish. Possibly an Israelite, but not Jewish.
Benny Hinn was a baptized Christian and raised as such. Of course, he has been somewhat secretive about his past. It is possible that he lied about being born to Christian parents and really is a Jew trying to corrupt Christians. ;)
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Malachi 1:11 "For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name [shall be] great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense [shall be] offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name [shall be] great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts."
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I was born in Germany by Canadian parents. While I could have claimed German citizen ship, I am not automatically a German.
And if my parents had travelled to Isreal when I was due to be born and I had been born in Isreal, that would not automatically make me Jewish. Possibly an Israelite, but not Jewish.
Benny Hinn was a baptized Christian and raised as such. Of course, he has been somewhat secretive about his past. It is possible that he lied about being born to Christian parents and really is a Jew trying to corrupt Christians. ;)
That could be possible, but I have personally witness he claining he is a christian Jew.
A Jew who accepted Jesus Christ latter!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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That is also possible. Benny Hinn has been very cryptic about his past and has been willing to claim anything that suits him at the moment. Of course that would mean that he lied about his parents and his other heritage.
So are you really trying to prove that Benny Hinn is a liar? If so you proved it conclusively, by your own testamony. But it really isn't a shock to me.
I am glad you are finally seeing the light. ;)
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Malachi 1:11 "For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name [shall be] great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense [shall be] offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name [shall be] great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts."
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That is also possible. Benny Hinn has been very cryptic about his past and has been willing to claim anything that suits him at the moment. Of course that would mean that he lied about his parents and his other heritage.
So are you really trying to prove that Benny Hinn is a liar? If so you proved it conclusively, by your own testamony. But it really isn't a shock to me.
I am glad you are finally seeing the light. ;)
NO! I am not trying to clain he is a liar, I know he is a true man of God, but I think the media would try to twist the truth again as they mostly do!
I just don't know Benny Hinn personally to really say for myself,just Like I personally know MJ to really believe what they media is saying about him.
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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You said that you personally witnessed Tofouk Benedictus Hinn, a baptized Christian from a Christian family, raised as an Orthodox Christian, claim to be a Jewish convert to Christianity.
To be Jewish one must accept Judaism and be circumcised as a religious act. There is no way that this occurred when Benny was a child as both of his parents were Christian - unless he lied about that. So if he was ever Jewish, he converted to Judaism from Christianity as an adult.
If he is now claiming otherwise, then he is manipulating the facts for a purpose. That is not how God or His annointed work.
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Malachi 1:11 "For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name [shall be] great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense [shall be] offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name [shall be] great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts."
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You said that you personally witnessed Tofouk Benedictus Hinn, a baptized Christian from a Christian family, raised as an Orthodox Christian, claim to be a Jewish convert to Christianity.
To be Jewish one must accept Judaism and be circumcised as a religious act. There is no way that this occurred when Benny was a child as both of his parents were Christian - unless he lied about that. So if he was ever Jewish, he converted to Judaism from Christianity as an adult.
If he is now claiming otherwise, then he is manipulating the facts for a purpose. That is not how God or His annointed work.
That could be possible that he went to Christainty to Jew as you claim, I have to do more researching on that!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Thanks for all those who believed that MJ could be raised from the dead and the votes out numbered that he can't be raised from the dead more than half 13 to 6.
praise the Lord that many still have greater wisdoms ands good faith!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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No one here doubts what God can do.
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Malachi 1:11 "For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name [shall be] great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense [shall be] offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name [shall be] great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts."
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No one here doubts what God can do.
But most people here doubt what Jesus already done for us 2000 yeaRS AGO AND COMPLETED!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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I have not doubts whatsoever as to what Jesus did 2000 years or what He completed.
He completed the Old Covenant and established a New Covenant. He said so right in the Bible.
I think that most people on this forum understand and accept that. What I cannot figure out is why you are content to accept the completed Old Covenant, but reluctant to teach or encourage others to enter into the New Covenant.
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Malachi 1:11 "For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name [shall be] great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense [shall be] offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name [shall be] great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts."
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I have not doubts whatsoever as to what Jesus did 2000 years or what He completed.
He completed the Old Covenant and established a New Covenant. He said so right in the Bible.
I think that most people on this forum understand and accept that. What I cannot figure out is why you are content to accept the completed Old Covenant, but reluctant to teach or encourage others to enter into the New Covenant.
Who are you addressing?
I am a new covenant believer, and I am atoned by it!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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