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How many millions or billions of years,before the appearance of man did Dinosaurs roam the earth - A big cheer for the first or anyone who supplies the right answer - jimc
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http://www.christiananswers.net/dinosaurs/home.html
The first place to start is in Genesis 1;1. At the end of vs.1, draw a line between
it, and verse two. Verse one is a statement. In the beginning, God created the heavens and
the earth. Notice the period. That little dot says a lot, which is the basis of the study.
What I am saying is that this verse does not give a time period in which things were created,
it simply states, in the beginning. From there, go to Ezekiel 14:11-19, and also Isaiah 14:12-16.
These scripture are prophetic, as well as telling the history of what happened in heaven even
before Adam and Eve. If you have any Hebrew reference material, and Greek as well, they
will help clarify. After creation, there was a war in heaven, Lucifer, who is referred to as a prince,
rebelled, and was cast down to the earth. Jesus made the statement, that He beheld Satan
fall as lightening. Reference this to confirm. Then go back to Genesis, vs 2. There are key words
here that give you clues to what happened.
The words, without, form and void, indicate that something once had form, void meaning, some-
thing once was, but has been cancelled out. And darkness, Hebrew word, Kochek, meaning mass
destruction, or total chaos had occured. Darkness was upon the face of the deep. The deep as
you know, is just water, the entire earth covered in water. This supports the Christian view that
says we are not evolved from monkeys. God did not tell us what was in the heavens, nor on the
earth, He simply said, in the beginning. Physical scientific evidence shows us what was once here.
When Satan was cast down, it destroyed the firmament, which is defined as solid sheets of water,
one stacked upon the other. That was how a mist watered the earth. When Satan crashed through the firmament, it all came down upon the earth. That caused tremendous pressure.and Scientific study has proven that fossil fuels and diamonds came from tremendous heat and pressure. It also served to preserve the dinosaure bones and skeletal remains of neandrothrol man. Also in Genesis, look at the difference between the words create, and made. This is a clue, to why there is physical evidence of cave men, and why men are the way they are today.When something is created, it is something that comes from nothing. When something is made, it is made from something that has already been created. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth, and there is scripture that supports the fact that, nothing was created, that wasn't created by Him. That would include cave men, as far as the original creation. The difference lays in what God made after he came in, and cleaned house, so to speak. The order in which He created all things, had been upset by rebellion, so this time, He made man in His own image, which would indicate that, as physical evidence shows, man was not created in Gods own image at first. Now obviously, Satan was created as a freewill being, for, he made a choice. Satan was also in charge of the praise and worship in heaven, "the boy could sing!" But after he was cast out, there was no one left to lead these things. So after God set everything back in order, He created man in His, (our own, as it is written), image, male and female created He them. Now this statement looks funny in the midst of this, but, God is three, Father, Son, And Holy Ghost, or Spirit. We are created, body, soul, and spirit. A soul, which is mind, will, and emotions,are housed in these bodys we walk around in. So cave man must have not had a spirit, in which to communicate with God, and from the skeletal remains, he resembled an ape. So God created the human spirit in Adam and in Eve. Eve was made from Adam, but God created their spirits in them at that particular period of time. I hope this has helped you lacy-1
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go to kjvbible.org.....the most amazing understanding ive seen on ancient times..very stimulating!....thunderson
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Why all this rubbish,why not be real smart and get the word of God.It seems Lucifer"s rebellion was after he saw man created in the image and likeness of God and refused to accept Him as such and said "I will not serve" - jimc
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Sorry, but I only accept actual science, not pseudo science.
FAL - There we have it - you have got your actual and your pseudo vice versa and base over apex imho - neither my or your conclusions really matter so on good and for good advice we must consult the experts and experts as we are requested and required to do and so I REPEAT AGAIN go to www.DalightOrigins.com and ScriptureCatholic.com and scroll down to actual science and to actual experts and specialists at www.kolbecenter.org - jimc
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Sorry, but I only accept actual science, not pseudo science.
FAL - There we have it - you have got your actual and your pseudo vice versa and base over apex imho - neither my or your conclusions really matter so on good and for good advice we must consult the experts and experts as we are requested and required to do and so I REPEAT AGAIN go to www.DalightOrigins.com and ScriptureCatholic.com and scroll down to actual science and to actual experts and specialists at www.kolbecenter.org - jimc
sorry-correction experts and specialists and www.ScriptureCatholic.com - jimc
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Sorry, but I only accept actual science, not pseudo science.
FAL - There we have it - you have got your actual and your pseudo vice versa and base over apex imho - neither my or your conclusions really matter so on good and for good advice we must consult the experts and experts as we are requested and required to do and so I REPEAT AGAIN go to www.DalightOrigins.com and ScriptureCatholic.com and scroll down to actual science and to actual experts and specialists at www.kolbecenter.org - jimc
But those are not experts in science. At least provide me with someone who has more education in science than I have.
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And further, while I do like Scripture Catholic, they are expressing their opinions on what the Bible and the early Church fathers have to say on the subject. None of this has been affirmed specifically by the Magisterium in terms of geocentrism or evolution as presented by your sources.
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Malachi 1:11 "For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name [shall be] great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense [shall be] offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name [shall be] great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts."
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And further, while I do like Scripture Catholic, they are expressing their opinions on what the Bible and the early Church fathers have to say on the subject. None of this has been affirmed specifically by the Magisterium in terms of geocentrism or evolution as presented by your sources.
exactly wrong again - they are not expressing their own opinions,they are expressing what Scriptures,Tradition,the Church Fathers and the Church is teaching as it has always taught - jimc
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the geogolical column as presented in text books and encyclopaedias and television etc does not in fact appear as such in situ.Many layers of strata are upside down and vice versa so the fossils found in bottom layers can in fact be more recent than those in top layers - btw there are many ancient sketches and dinosaur type replications includig their footprints alongside those pf humans and how could it be otherwise since they were both created at the same time and did not hunt or kill and eat each other since they were vegetarians - btw exactly what do you mean my interpretation of the Bible - jimc
my interpretation,so how do you intrepret God taking Adam on a tour round His creation sitting on millions of savaged Dinosaur bones and without batting an eye saying to Him this is "very good".Funny God we have got have we not and His idea of very good - jimc
Are you saying His creation is no good when God said it is very good?
Please reread as your conclusion is the exact opposite of that which I stated - jimc
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Sorry, but I only accept actual science, not pseudo science.
FAL - There we have it - you have got your actual and your pseudo vice versa and base over apex imho - neither my or your conclusions really matter so on good and for good advice we must consult the experts and experts as we are requested and required to do and so I REPEAT AGAIN go to www.DalightOrigins.com and ScriptureCatholic.com and scroll down to actual science and to actual experts and specialists at www.kolbecenter.org - jimc
But those are not experts in science. At least provide me with someone who has more education in science than I have.
You cant be serious,you just must be joking - so have you clicked on their advisory council or perhaps you may care to pick on Prof.Maciej Giertych D.Sc.[Creation Rediscovered] - jimc
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[quote]Originally posted by Faith_at_Large
Sorry, but I only accept actual science, not pseudo science.
FAL - There we have it - you have got your actual and your pseudo vice versa and base over apex imho - neither my or your conclusions really matter so on good and for good advice we must consult the experts and experts as we are requested and required to do and so I REPEAT AGAIN go to www.DalightOrigins.com and ScriptureCatholic.com and scroll down to actual science and to actual experts and specialists at www.kolbecenter.org - jimc
But those are not experts in science. At least provide me with someone who has more education in science than I have.
You cant be serious,you just must be joking - so have you clicked on their advisory council or perhaps you may care to pick on Prof.Maciej Giertych D.Sc.[Creation Rediscovered]- anyway this was not about an individual or and individual's qualifications in any one or more disciplines but about experts and specialists[plural] - jimc
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Dr. Giertych's area of expertise is in genetics. How does that make him an expert in geology? Or Paleontology?
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Malachi 1:11 "For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name [shall be] great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense [shall be] offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name [shall be] great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts."
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Dr. Giertych's area of expertise is in genetics. How does that make him an expert in geology? Or Paleontology?
He is an expert and specialist and Catholic,meanwhile try a non catholic creationist expert and specialist viz Dr.John D Morris of ICR - perhaps its not about Geology or Palaeontology but Sedimentology and stratification and who could possibly be a greater expert or specialist than French scientist Guy Berthault who is on the advisory council at www.kolbecenter.org - jimc
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re geology and geological column etc. Go to www.angelqueen.org down to news headlines[7]-"Scholars aim to disprove Darwin".Also type in search box "Guy Berthault website" for update and rebuttals and refuttals etc
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They can "aim" all they like, but until they have succeeded, then it really does not matter.
Your "experts" are not experts in the relevant fields of study. But if they can encourange actual experts to participate in the debates, more power to them.
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Malachi 1:11 "For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name [shall be] great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense [shall be] offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name [shall be] great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts."
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