andrew wommack what you think?
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what do you think about his teaching and ministry?have you heard his audio tape or read his teaCHings om his free teaching and bibltcal web sitehttp://www.awmi.net/extra/audiolisten to knowing god loveor spirit soul and body!one love
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You can say all Glory to God not a church or society glory! Hear that loving voice in your spirit!
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what i'm missing is the love in your spirit evan... the constant accusations that you make... the lies and stereotypes are surely not based on love, let alone truth.
anyway we catholics say glory to god all the time... never have we said such a thing to a church or society but rather to God most high. what i find interesting is that you could make that accusation. i would rather be concerned if your saying glory to anderw womack, or the 700 club, or to your own self. even your accusation that we follow the pope is a misunderstanding... because it's not the pope but the papacy, which is not really following one man at all but a legacy of men left by christ. that is very different than the almost worshipfulness that many modern charismatic leader are given. i knew a guy who stopped going to church to just watch benny hinn videos at home......
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You can say all Glory to God not a church or society glory! Hear that loving voice in your spirit!
one love
what i'm missing is the love in your spirit evan... the constant accusations that you make... the lies and stereotypes are surely not based on love, let alone truth.
anyway we catholics say glory to god all the time... never have we said such a thing to a church or society but rather to God most high. what i find interesting is that you could make that accusation. i would rather be concerned if your saying glory to anderw womack, or the 700 club, or to your own self. even your accusation that we follow the pope is a misunderstanding... because it's not the pope but the papacy, which is not really following one man at all but a legacy of men left by christ. that is very different than the almost worshipfulness that many modern charismatic leader are given. i knew a guy who stopped going to church to just watch benny hinn videos at home......
Here we go on the RCC word game again!
Ok then your popacy spoon fed you in what to believe and what not.
Do you make the spirit of God over your popacy or vatican??
one love
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Mormons already have some pretty deep schisms, and Islam has several groups that are violently opposed to each other.
How about JHW who are in unity and bible so called led FAL?? I see their kingdom halls all teaching the same doctrines also which are twisted lies!
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The JWs are a book publishing company, and too young to have much in the line of schism. The only reason the Mormons have a problem is because of laws banning polygamy. This cause some to come up with a way to not have polygamy mandatory in their church.
Perhaps you should join one of those if you think that they have greater unity in their tiny numbers than the Catholic Church. After all, Christ prayed that we be one as He and the Father are one. Who fits the bill best?
Pax et Bonum,
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"There are some in the Church, who not only do not do what is good, but even persecute it, and hate in others what they neglect to do themselves. The sin of these men is not that of infirmity or ignorance, but deliberate willful sin." — Pope St. Gregory the Great (AD 540-604)
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Here we go on the RCC word game again!
what is the rcc word game evan? do you really think by throwing out the magic "rcc" that it suddenly means your actually have a point? that is a huge problem i see in most non catholic argument... instead of actually having a real argument they hide behind the rcc and make any negative claim they want and offer no proof to back it up... so wtf is an rcc word game?
quote: Ok then your popacy spoon fed you in what to believe and what not.
but you already know that is not true.. the popes never said anything to me.. unlike you i came to my conclusions on my own, with the holy spirit leading and not a u tube video or the latest fad being preached. in other words if there has been any spoon feeding it is you that have been getting it and not me. that is another thing i find funny about non catholic arguments,,, it they always imply that we are brain dead sycophants who have been told what to believe against our will... when the fact is that we have been told what the church believes and have agreed with it. that is a distinction worth noting..
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Do you make the spirit of God over your popacy or vatican??
one love
i don't make the spirit of god do anything. but i do believe that the church is truly lead into all truth by the spirit.. which means that the papacy and vatican and all those other big words you don't really understand are all under the guidance of the holy spirit. now i understand that you may disagree with that claim and that is fine as long as you stop with those crazy accusations about placing popes over the spirit... there is a better chance that you would put womack over the spirit than a catholic would put the pope.... i mean which catholic has wasted several threads trying to defend a pope and how many threads have you run down just on womack? either you have some kind of infatuation with the guy or you think he is on the same level with jesus.......(just kidding... but i hope you see how easy it is to make such useless claims).
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quote: Originally posted by Faith_at_Large
quote: Originally posted by evangelist
quote: Originally posted by Faith_at_Large
Mormons already have some pretty deep schisms, and Islam has several groups that are violently opposed to each other.
How about JHW who are in unity and bible so called led FAL?? I see their kingdom halls all teaching the same doctrines also which are twisted lies!
one love
The JWs are a book publishing company, and too young to have much in the line of schism. The only reason the Mormons have a problem is because of laws banning polygamy. This cause some to come up with a way to not have polygamy mandatory in their church.
Perhaps you should join one of those if you think that they have greater unity in their tiny numbers than the Catholic Church. After all, Christ prayed that we be one as He and the Father are one. Who fits the bill best?
i GUESS YOU DON#T KNOW TO much about the JHW! The society is what they follow but the people are JW! BTW Wommack is just a good teacher and has that gift like joyce meyer, kenneth copeland, and bishop long and bishop td Jakes and many others, but they are not pope and infallible like you think your pope is which he isn't even in the word of God he has his errors or he would correct the vatican over many traditions and doctrine of men.
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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evan, i guess you don't know too much about the pope or catholics.... hee hee.
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quote: Originally posted by mikejuli
evan, i guess you don't know too much about the pope or catholics.... hee hee.
NOPE!......HHEEEE HHEEEE!
one love
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how then can we believe you know about other groups like the jw? i mean having been here so long you should by now know what we catholics really believe... sadly you seem to just paint our beliefs with what you want us to believe... and maybe you do the same with those other groups.
you evangelicals have been called a dumbed down christianity by your own people... seems pretty obvious to me that it's a good assessment.
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quote: Originally posted by mikejuli
how then can we believe you know about other groups like the jw? i mean having been here so long you should by now know what we catholics really believe... sadly you seem to just paint our beliefs with what you want us to believe... and maybe you do the same with those other groups.
you evangelicals have been called a dumbed down christianity by your own people... seems pretty obvious to me that it's a good assessment.
I do mostly know the basic thing you believe, and sometimes it is so twisted I try not to believe it, and make your lies or deception the truth, or lack of knowledge. If I just say The JHW society is wrong and Islam has another god, mormons are false it wouldn't be fair so I have to get all the details from every side or what I called a flip flop information in all my getting. The problem I know I have myself is how to explain in the natural which is something which is in spiritual and biblical error. That is why I use Andrew wommack and other scholars, or links to talk and write in logical human reasoning.
one love
I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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