Anyone knows anyone healed from Amputation?

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Originally posted by Faith_at_Large

Evangelist, I never heard of Peter restoring lost limbs. But yes, various Popes have demonstrated impressive signs and wonders. But we tend not to dwell on them because this is not really the biggest part of our faith.

It is possible that amputees have been healed, but I don't have a catelogue of all the miracles that have been done.

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Originally posted by Faith_at_Large

Name one of your God's Generals that made an amputee whole.

In the Catholic Church, all of those signs have been present. Including healing the lame, blind, mute, maimed, and many others.

And yes, even amputees have been reported, but documentation is required. I wouldn't accept Todd Bentley's claim of raising the dead without proof (you did, but I don't), and I am not going to blindly accept reports of amputee cures without some verification.

But, because the other documented cures were real in my Church, and mostly proven false outside of my Church, I am confident that I am in the right place.

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Originally posted by mikejuli

where did you go to? god hates amputees? maybe that should be a test for some of those faith healers and those who seek after the sensationalism of miracle men instead of faith.

i do know that jesus healed a mans ear that had been lopped off by peter.. but i also know many people, especially in the evangelical sects that did not get healed. the easy answer is to just accuse them of not having enough faith or having some hidden sin, or the hard answer is that power to heal and be rich and all that is not what the gospel is about evan. the amputees are the exception that prove the rule...

please don't take that as a claim that god never heals.. cause that's not what i'm sayin.. i just think that it is probably rare that an actual provable miracle happens.

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Originally posted by God4me

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Originally posted by mikejuli

where did you go to? god hates amputees? maybe that should be a test for some of those faith healers and those who seek after the sensationalism of miracle men instead of faith.

i do know that jesus healed a mans ear that had been lopped off by peter.. but i also know many people, especially in the evangelical sects that did not get healed. the easy answer is to just accuse them of not having enough faith or having some hidden sin, or the hard answer is that power to heal and be rich and all that is not what the gospel is about evan. the amputees are the exception that prove the rule...

please don't take that as a claim that god never heals.. cause that's not what i'm sayin.. i just think that it is probably rare that an actual provable miracle happens.

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You are showing your ignorance of the Bible AGAIN.
God still heales, He still grows out missing limbs.
The reason people don't receieve is.

[1]Lack of knowledge.
God said His people go into bondage, And are distroyed through lack of knowledge.

[2]Lack of faith.
See hwo many times Jesus rebuked people for no faith, See how many times He said, "THY FAITH HAS HEALED YOU".

[3]Sin and disobedience.
That will always hinder the blessings of God.


BUT I KNOW YOU THINK YOU KNOW MORE THAN GOD.

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Originally posted by evangelist

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Originally posted by Faith_at_Large

Name one of your God's Generals that made an amputee whole.

In the Catholic Church, all of those signs have been present. Including healing the lame, blind, mute, maimed, and many others.

And yes, even amputees have been reported, but documentation is required. I wouldn't accept Todd Bentley's claim of raising the dead without proof (you did, but I don't), and I am not going to blindly accept reports of amputee cures without some verification.

But, because the other documented cures were real in my Church, and mostly proven false outside of my Church, I am confident that I am in the right place.

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Can you give me one maimed healing in your church??
This is why I started this thread FAL, please give evidence of this any where in your church world wide please,please just one!

Two or three testimonys on this will rock this world Loraine!

A matter of fact I would even leave my church and join the CC when you come up with this proof!

I'll be waiting

Shalom

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Yvonne FOURNIER

Born inJanuary, 1923.

Cured on 19.8.1945, in her 23rd. year. Miracle on 14.11.1959, by Cardinal Maurice Feltin, Archbishop of Paris.

This young lady sustained an accident at work in January 1940, when she was 17 years old. The whole upper left arm was pulled violently downwards when it became entangled in a driving belt. During the following 5 1/2 years an extensive and progressive traumatic syndrome set in, with virtually intolerable pain, oedema, and trophic lesions in the affected arm, rendering it practically useless. Nine operations were carried out, the majority of which dealt with the stellate ganglion and the sympathetic chain. Professor Leriche and Dr. Clovis Vincent were the surgeons, particularly capable in this area. Improvement in function was not achieved, except for some temporary and slight relief. About three years after the accident, a tribunal granted her-a 70 % pension. This rate was the same as for an amputated limb. Miss Y. FOURNIER joined the National Pilgrimage in 1945, the first after the war of 1939. On 19th. August, after a Bath, she felt her left arm come back to normal, with freedom from pain and movement, and power restored. She was examined by the medical team of the National Pilgrimage, with Prof. Salmon in 1945, and with Prof. Thiebaut recognised the cure of Yvonne FOURNIER as medically inexplicable... but at that stage nothing more was done. Ten years later, in 1956, her cure was the subject of a paper published by Prof. Salmon. Brought out of obscurity where it had lain since the cure, it was submitted to the scrutiny of the International Medical Committee in 1959. On the report of Prof. Thiebaut, the Committee approved the results as being in keeping with former ones, with the advantage of ten years' hindsight, stating:

"The cure of Miss Yvonne FOURNIER was instantaneous and definitive. Moreover, it is medically inexplicable".

The same year, after his Canonical Commission had expressed its opinion, Cardinal Feltin recognised the cure as miraculous on 14.11.1959.

Miss FOURNIER survives and is a frequent visitor to Lourdes. Her cure can be considered as "the model of Lourdes' cure".

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Vittorio MICHELI

Born on 6.2.1940, in the Province of Trento (Italie)

Cured on 1.6.1963, in his 23rd. year. Miracle on 26.5.1976, by Mgr Alessandro Gottardi, Archbishop of Trento.

On 16th. April 1962, Vittorio MICHELI, a soldier in the Alpine Corps, was admitted into a hospital in Verona for the diagnosis and treatment of an obscure condition of his left hip. After various tests, ineffective treatment and also a biopsy, the dreaded diagnosis of a malignant tumour, a sarcoma, was made on 4th. June.

For a whole year he remained under the care of the Military Hospital and Centres, although no anti-mitotic, surgical, medical or physiotherapeutic treatment was applied.

Deterioration, both locally and generally went on relentlessly, with total destruction of his hip joint. But he still undertook a pilgrimage to Lourdes with his Diocese in June 1963.

During the pilgrimage, nothing notable happened, except that he bathed, encased from pelvis to foot in a plaster cast.

On his return he appeared to be in better shape, but because he was doing his military service, he was obliged to go back to his starting-point, i.e. the Military Hospital of Trento.

More X-rays were taken there, and in a way difficult to comprehend, they were incorrectly interpreted, being considered identical to his former ones. This accounts for why it was 6 months after the pilgrimage before proper notice was taken of his excellent health, absence of pain, ability to walk and finally "the remarkable reconstruction of his hip" the first signs of which had already been present 5 months before!

Each year since 1963, Vittorio has visited Lourdes. In 1967, the Medical Bureau saw no reason to delay admitting that "it was impossible to give any medical explanation for this cure ".

In 1968, the International Medical Committee postponed its decision, after hearing Prof. Salmon's report. It was only in 1971, a lapse of 8 years, that this Committee confirmed the verdict of the Medical Bureau of Lourdes.

On 26.5.1976,13 years after the cure, Mgr Alessandro Gottardi, after taking into account the favourable advice of his Canonical Commission, declared that this cure contained "sufficient evidence for the recognition of a special intervention by the Power of God, Father and Creator".

Naturally, Vittorio MICHELI keeps on coming to Lourdes, working as a brancardier in his diocesan Hospitalite.

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Mrs Catherine LATAPIE

Born in 1820

Lived in Loubajac, near to Lourdes. Cured 1st. March 1858 in her 39th year.

Miracle on 18th. January 1862, by Mgr Laurence, Bishop of Tarbes.

This was the first cure. The date is unquestionable.

At the time of the Apparitions, Catherine LATAPIE lived at Loubajac, a few kilometres from Lourdes. She had injured her right hand after a fall from a tree, in October 1856; in addition, she was at the end of her third(?) pregnancy.

This accident caused a subluxation of the humerus, which was easily reducible, but owing to the traumatic stretching of the brachial plexus, she was left with an ulnar type of paralysis. She could not use the last two fingers of her right hand, which were held in typical palmar flexion.
During the night between the 28th. February and the 1st. March, 1858, Catherine LATAPIE was moved by a sudden impulse . She rose at three in the morning, woke her young children and set off for Lourdes.

Arriving there at dawn, she met Bernadette, went to the Grotto and knelt down to pray. Then with all simplicity, she bathed her hand in the little hollow which had already collected water from the Spring.

Straightaway her fingers returned to normal. They had regained their movements and suppleness. She could flex and extend them with the same facility as she could before the accident.

With haste she returned home, and the same evening--(it is this detail which enables us to be sure of the date of the cure)--she gave birth to her third child. He was ordained a priest in 1882.

In his report for Mgr Laurence, Prof. Vergez classed this case amongst the cures "presenting a supernatural character".

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Louis BOURIETTE

Born in 1804

Lived in Lourdes. Cured in March 1858, in his 55th year. Miracle on 18th
January 1862, by Mgr Laurence, Bishop of Tarbes.

This cure is the one most often quoted in the history of Lourdes. Although usually considered the first, in actual fact there is evidence that it could not have happened before the first days of March (cf. Laurentin).

Louis BOURIETTE was a quarryman's labourer, living and working in Lourdes. In 1858 he had been afflicted with a complete loss of vision in the right eye for two years. This serious disturbance resulted from an accident in the mine, which 19 years before had irreversibly injured his eye, and killed his brother Joseph, who was at his side.

Dr. Dozous, the first Medical "expert" verified this cure and in 1874 wrote this:
"It is a well known fact, corroborated by science, that whenever an eye is injured by a flying object in an explosion, the shock engendered is always sufficient to lead to incurable blindness. Often it happens that the other eye, unable to escape the repercussion of that shock due to the sympathy which exists between the two eyes, is itself weakened and ends up blind too".

The circumstances of this cure were reported by the same Dr. Dozous who took an interest in them himself.

"As soon as Bernadette had scratched the soil of the Grotto leading to the appearance of the Spring which had cured so many sick people, I wanted, he told me, to try and see if this water would cure my eye.

When the chance came to use this water, l started to pray to Our Lady of the Grotto, and humbly begged her to be with me when I bathed my eye with the water from the fountain.

I bathed and rebathed my right eye repeatedly in the space of a short time, and after these ablutions my sight was excellent, just as it is now" (cf. La Grotte de Lourdes, sa fontaine, ses guerisons).

The Commission of enquiry, set up by Mgr Laurence, heard Dr. Dozous speak about this cure on 28th. July 1858.

In April 1860, Dr. Henri Vergez, Professor attached to the Faculty at Montpellier, and Medical Officer at the Waters of Bareges, presented his preliminary report as requested by Mgr Laurence. He declared as his opinion:

"This event (the cure) possesses a supernatural character".
The verdict was solemnised in the Mandate of Mgr Laurence in January 1862.

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Pierre de RUDDER

Born on 7/2/1822 in Jabbeke in Belgium.

Cured on 4/7/1875, in his 53rd. year. Miracle on 7/25/1908, by Mgr Gustave Waffelaert, Bishop of Bruges.

The story of this well-known cure has been told thousands of times. We have already seen that it was not the first cure obtained outside Lourdes, but there was no doubt that it stands as the first cure and miracle which happened without any use of Lourdes' water.

In 1867, Pierre de RUDDER had his leg crushed when a tree fell down. As a result he sustained an open fracture of both bones in the upper third of the left leg.

Despite all treatment given, it was obvious from an early stage that the fracture would never heal. Due to local infection, and (because of it) the elimination of newly formed bone over the years, a pseudoarthrosis set in at the site of the fracture, and there was not the slightest chance of the bones uniting.

The doctors advised amputation several times, but Pierre de RUDDER refused. After a few years, these doctors abandoned him, because they were absolutely powerless to help his chronic condition.

In this state, eight years after the accident, Pierre de RUDDER decided to make a pilgrimage to Oostacker on 4/7/1875, where a replica of the Grotto of Lourdes had recently been built for the piety of our Belgian neighbours. Setting off from Jabbeke in the morning as an invalid, unable to stand on his left leg, he returned in the evening without crutches or wounds.

The bones had united in a matter of minutes, without any shortening or deviation from the vertical axis. During the following days, the doctors who had treated him, verified these changes.

Pierre de RUDDER resumed a normal and active life straightaway. To our knowledge, he went to Lourdes, at least once, and that was in May 1881.

On 3/22/1898, he died, 23 years after his cure.

Later, for further proof, the bones of both legs were exhumed. This allowed us to see the objective evidence, the site of the fracture in its healed state, which can now be seen in the moulds in the possession of the Medical Bureau.

In July 1908, 33 years later (a sort of record!) the Bishop of Bruges declared that in the cure of Pierre de RUDDER, one could see a miracle attributable to "an intervention by God, obtained through the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary".

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Henriette BRESSOLLES

Born in1896

Cured on the 3rd. July 1924, in her 28th. year. Miracle on the 4th. June 1957, by Mgr Paul Remond, Archbishop Bishop of Nice.

A military nurse from 1914, who survived the war without mishap, was admitted into the army hospital as a patient in October 1918 with "Pott's disease of the spine due to Military Service"

Until the beginning of '22, she spent her life in hospital, being subjected not only to an immobilisation in a plaster collar and corset, but also to various treatments for associated complications, namely, paralysis of the right lower limb, paralysis of the intestine. and bladder, and "meningeal incidents"

All this earned the 125 % military pension allocated to her for "Pott's Disease of the spine, with total paraplegia and double incontinence".

During the next 2 1/2 years at home, every three to four months she developed retention of urine and uraemia. Moreover, she continuously wore immobilising protheses.

In this pitiable state she arrived in Lourdes on 3.7.1924. That same afternoon she was taken to the Blessing of the Sick, and from there to the Grotto. After a sensation of a a very painful crack,., she felt cured, and for the first time in six years could sit up on her couch!

Next day she was examined at the M.B.V., where her spine moved freely without pain, but her lower limbs remained stiff.

The next day, she went there again and all the experts determined to wait 3 months more and to have the opinion of her own doctors before confirming that this cure might be considered as a real one.

At the end of September 1924, three separate certificates issued by physicians and surgeons who had treated her, bore confirmation that a "the cure was complete and stable, and was obtained in Lourdes".

At home in Nice, the auxiliary Bishop authorised, towards the end of the year, a religious ceremony of thanksgiving in which he took part.

Thirty years later, at the express request of the Lourdes' authorities, a Canonical Commission decided on 24.10.1954, that the cure of Henriette BRESSOLLES could be declared miraculous.

Canon Law demands that the Bishop himself makes his judgement... It was not until three years later that this cure was officially recognised by Mgr Remond on 4.6.1957. Four years afterwards, in 1961, Miss BRESSOLLES died in Lyon from a cardiac lesion.

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One of Brother André’s duties was watching over boys in the infirmary. One afternoon he came across a boy with a fever and asked him, “Why are you being so lazy?” When the boy protested that he was sick and had been sent to the infirmary by the nurse, Brother André’s response was, “No you’re not. Why don’t you go and play with the others.”

The kid did as he was told, and Brother André was told off by his superiors. Sending sick children out to play, interfering in the work of the nurse, was not considered a wise choice.

A doctor checked the boy several times, expecting some sort of relapse — but it never came.

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“It can’t be denied that he did give their health back to thousands of people who were suffering from various ailments: rheumatism, arthritis, cancer, heart disease, asthma and injuries from serious accidents,” writes Fr. Georges Madore in Brother André: A Saint for Today.

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Jeanne TULASNE

Born on 9/8/1877, in Indre et Loire.

Cured on the 9/8/1897, at 20 years of age. Miracle on 10/27/1907, by Mgr Rene Francois Renou, Archbishop of Tours.

This young lady in late adolescence was already suffering from tuberculous peritonitis by the time she was 18 years old. Six months later the disease had spread to her vertebral column. Within a few more months the lesions were serious, having caused:

--destruction of 2 or 3 vertebrae, with marked curvature of the dorsolumbar spine; --a bone abscess in the left thigh; --muscular atrophy and clubfoot.

All these were certified by her doctor on 8/7/1897.

At the beginning of September, Jeanne, in a very poor state, came to Lourdes with her Diocesan Pilgrimage.

On the 8th. of September, her twentieth birthday, she too joined in the Blessed Sacrament Procession. Her own Bishop, Archbishop of Tours, carried the monstrance.

And then, all at once, she felt cured.

She was examined at the Medical Bureau of Verifications the next day, and again the next year, 1898, where doctors had no option but to confirm the cure from the prolonged illness of Pott's Disease, as complete, sudden and lasting.

Nine years afterwards, Mgr Rene Francois Renou, Archbishop of Tours, upon request, appointed a Canonical Commission in 1906, which found the cure miraculous.

The Archbishop himself, proclaimed on 10/27/1907, that "the cure of Jeanne TULASNE was a miraculous cure, and had happened 10 years earlier when the Blessed Sacrament was carried past her"

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Originally posted by Faith_at_Large

You did not say amputation, you said maimed.

I don't know of any current cases of amputations being healed, by anyone.

St. Anthony of Padua did reattach a leg that was amputated. And another saint is responsible for restoring a leg in the 1600's, but these things were not documented as well as modern miracles.

And FYI, there are over 1400 confirmed medical miracles in the Catholic Church, it takes time to go through them all.

But most of them are better than the false healings performed outside the Catholic Church.

All of the above healings are just as good as anything claimed by Andrew Wommack.

Even in the Bible there is not one single example of an amputated limb growing back. The severed ear was reattached, just like St. Anthony did. The withered hand that stretched forth is just like some of the examples I presented above.

You assertion that the miracles I presented aren't good enough shows your lack of objectivity. ALL of them are better than anything claimed by Benny Hinn or Todd Bentley.

Catholic miracles are authenticated by a board that includes atheists and other non-Catholics. I would like Andrew Wommack's so called miracles stand up to that level of scrutiny.

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Originally posted by Faith_at_Large

Now since you have not healed any amputations, nor has any of God's Generals, or Andrew Wommack, I don't think that you should be getting so cocky.

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Maria Emilia and Vittorio

I remember in Leira, Portugal, the time I met Maria Emilia Santos, miraculously saved through the intercession of Francesco and Giacinta, the two little shepherds of Fatima. She was as small and delicate as a bird. She had been paralysed for 22 years. Her spinal column had calcified and she was unable to make any movement. She had been treated using all possible means and had spent eight years recovering in hospital and then discharged as ‘incurable’. On the night of 20 February 1989, the anniversary of the death of Giacinta, Emilia prayed intensely to the little seer, asking for her help. At a certain moment she heard a voice inside of her say Get up, you can do it. She stood up completely healed. Reminiscing about that night, Maria Emila’s face is radiant and her eyes glisten with tears.
When I go to the mountains in the region of Trentino-Alto Adige, in the north of Italy, I always stop in a little village called Scurelle, near Trento, to visit Vittorio Micheli. He is a friendly, well-built man who at 60 years of age surprises everyone with his love of the mountains. He is an ex-member of the Italian Alpine troops, a retired brick layer and a man of few words, but his story of what he has experienced is always moving. In 1962, while he was a soldier, he was struck with a malignant tumour in his hip bone. His pelvis and the top part of his left thigh bone were all eaten away. His leg remained attached to his body by his skin alone and it dangled like a sausage. The tumour was incurable and the doctors had given him a few months to live. It was his mother who convinced him to go to Lourdes, but he really didn’t believe there was any hope of a cure. At Lourdes however, not only did he get completely healed, but an incredible event occurred within his body; the spontaneous regeneration of his pelvis and thigh bone. Forty years later, Micheli is still a phenomenon who amazes doctors. Often, even atheists are prepared to admit that, at times, inexplicable healing can occur, but only those linked to the malfunctioning of the nervous system however. Here, however, they find themselves confronted by the complete and instantaneous disappearance of an irreparable illness and the ‘re-growth’ of organic material, a phenomenon unjustified by medical science.

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Originally posted by evangelist

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Originally posted by Faith_at_Large

You did not say amputation, you said maimed.

I don't know of any current cases of amputations being healed, by anyone.

St. Anthony of Padua did reattach a leg that was amputated. And another saint is responsible for restoring a leg in the 1600's, but these things were not documented as well as modern miracles.

And FYI, there are over 1400 confirmed medical miracles in the Catholic Church, it takes time to go through them all.

But most of them are better than the false healings performed outside the Catholic Church.

All of the above healings are just as good as anything claimed by Andrew Wommack.

Even in the Bible there is not one single example of an amputated limb growing back. The severed ear was reattached, just like St. Anthony did. The withered hand that stretched forth is just like some of the examples I presented above.

You assertion that the miracles I presented aren't good enough shows your lack of objectivity. ALL of them are better than anything claimed by Benny Hinn or Todd Bentley.

Catholic miracles are authenticated by a board that includes atheists and other non-Catholics. I would like Andrew Wommack's so called miracles stand up to that level of scrutiny.

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I think his testimony would do better, but that is not what I am looking for who has the best healings and miracle contests!
Thank you anyways for trying FAL!

you are most blessed!
Shalom Faith!

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