The meaning of a christian been justified, holy !
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Dear Loved Ones of the Lord,As we continue our journey through the Book of Romans Chapters 5-6, please notice the words found in Romans 5:1."Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God, through our Lord Jesus Christ."Justified. What a fascinating word. It is more... I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Yes. Amen. And according to the Bible we can toss our salvation if we chose sin over Christ.
Faith is not a word, it is a lifestyle choice. IF we live as pagans, we will die as pagans. Saying we believe does not fool God.
Anyone who truly believes in Jesus Christ does what Jesus says. Those that don't do as Jesus says are only paying lipservice - God does not like those that only do what they want and not what God wants. God does not want anything for us or of us that is not in our best interests. God is a loving Father.
So are you saying we don't have a sinful fallen nature when we got born again in our soul or mind and body??
When did you become perfect and where?
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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How did you get that from what I said.
The young man who asked Jesus how to be saved said that keeping the Commandments was EASY and that he had kept them all since childhood.
And Jesus made it even easier by using love as the motivation to keep the loopholes out - the spirit of the law over the mere letter of the law.
And the free gifts of GRACE and FAITH make it even easier.
I have given you passages that show that even if we fail, we can still repent and be saved. But you seem to be so attached to sin that you are unwilling to let it go. You said it yourself, if we persist sinning we eventually fall away. Well, the moment we refuse to repent, we have reached that point where we have fallen away and only pay lipservice, if that.
The Bible is clear. Those that love Christ, keep His commandments. Those that don't keep His commandments do not belong to Christ and are not in Him.
Plain as day, and no passage supersedes this clear doctrine.
Stumbling is not the same as falling. Jesus will pick us up if we stumble, and God calls us to repentance.
This is why Paul tells us to work out our salvation with fear and trembling. He is not telling us to be afraid of God, but rather the fear and trembling we feel when we have sinned is God at work in us drawing us to repentance.
God always does this for those who are faithful. He always calls us home. Only the fool remains out doors after the Shepherd has called His flock into the Fold. And such fools are quickly devoured by the roaring lion.
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"There are some in the Church, who not only do not do what is good, but even persecute it, and hate in others what they neglect to do themselves. The sin of these men is not that of infirmity or ignorance, but deliberate willful sin." — Pope St. Gregory the Great (AD 540-604)
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How did you get that from what I said.
The young man who asked Jesus how to be saved said that keeping the Commandments was EASY and that he had kept them all since childhood.
And Jesus made it even easier by using love as the motivation to keep the loopholes out - the spirit of the law over the mere letter of the law.
And the free gifts of GRACE and FAITH make it even easier.
I have given you passages that show that even if we fail, we can still repent and be saved. But you seem to be so attached to sin that you are unwilling to let it go. You said it yourself, if we persist sinning we eventually fall away. Well, the moment we refuse to repent, we have reached that point where we have fallen away and only pay lipservice, if that.
The Bible is clear. Those that love Christ, keep His commandments. Those that don't keep His commandments do not belong to Christ and are not in Him.
Plain as day, and no passage supersedes this clear doctrine.
Stumbling is not the same as falling. Jesus will pick us up if we stumble, and God calls us to repentance.
This is why Paul tells us to work out our salvation with fear and trembling. He is not telling us to be afraid of God, but rather the fear and trembling we feel when we have sinned is God at work in us drawing us to repentance.
God always does this for those who are faithful. He always calls us home. Only the fool remains out doors after the Shepherd has called His flock into the Fold. And such fools are quickly devoured by the roaring lion.
Then falling away by sin is when your heart is waxing cold, so you are throwing your salvation away , not losing religious brownie points as you think when you sin before God!
Sin make you convicted and you want to hide from God!
look again at the story of Adam and Eve , they hid from God when they sinned !
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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I never said we lose religious brownie points when we sin. We turn from God when we sin.
If we sin without repenting, this means that our heart HAS turned from God. The way to tell is if God brings you back to repentence. If anyone sins and they do not feel that call to repentence, it means that God has seen into their hearts and let them go.
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"There are some in the Church, who not only do not do what is good, but even persecute it, and hate in others what they neglect to do themselves. The sin of these men is not that of infirmity or ignorance, but deliberate willful sin." — Pope St. Gregory the Great (AD 540-604)
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I never said we lose religious brownie points when we sin. We turn from God when we sin.
If we sin without repenting, this means that our heart HAS turned from God. The way to tell is if God brings you back to repentence. If anyone sins and they do not feel that call to repentence, it means that God has seen into their hearts and let them go.
NO! it will take time to turn from God and sooner or latter when a person sin, is that their heart will wax cold and you will feel so condemened that you will renounce Jesus as being unworthy and looking at yourself a a sinner not saved by grace, and not a sinner who is not a sinner no more who is saved by grace and that why we are the righteousness of Christ no more a sinner!
The word sinner should never be said among us if you are in Christ and love Christ, and you are righteous, justified son of God, and a abbassador of Christ!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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It can take time. But not always. The Parable of the Sower shows that not everyone has that fertile ground that is necessary for an enduring faith.
We all fall short. We all stumble. I have been a Christian for decades and I still stumble along the way, but I still feel that call to repentance. So my heart has not waxed cold.
As long as a Christian is getting that call to repentance, and hopefull heeding it. Then they are still united to God and their heart has not waxed cold
I am not talking about a single trip or stumble just automatically dooms us. I am saying that of course we will stumble on our journey, and God will call us back.
But whether it took one sin or a thousand sins, when a person stops feeling that call to repentence and does not repent of their sins, that person's heart has waxed cold and God has let them go. It is isn't God's fault. God did not forsake anyone. But He respects our choice.
Sin or God. We can only pick one.
Pax et Bonum,
Faith_at_Large
"There are some in the Church, who not only do not do what is good, but even persecute it, and hate in others what they neglect to do themselves. The sin of these men is not that of infirmity or ignorance, but deliberate willful sin." — Pope St. Gregory the Great (AD 540-604)
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I never said we lose religious brownie points when we sin. We turn from God when we sin.
If we sin without repenting, this means that our heart HAS turned from God. The way to tell is if God brings you back to repentence. If anyone sins and they do not feel that call to repentence, it means that God has seen into their hearts and let them go.
NO! it will take time to turn from God and sooner or latter when a person sin, is that their heart will wax cold and you will feel so condemened that you will renounce Jesus as being unworthy and looking at yourself a a sinner not saved by grace, and not a sinner who is not a sinner no more who is saved by grace and that why we are the righteousness of Christ no more a sinner!
The word sinner should never be said among us if you are in Christ and love Christ, and you are righteous, justified son of God, and a abbassador of Christ!
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Evangelist,
The process which you describe is called avoidance.
You attempt to cover any acknowledgement of mental and behavioral sin by believing that it simply isn't there.
That's not what Jesus asked of His disciples. In fact, Scripture states how He opened up His disciples to a greater acknowledgement and awareness of sin.
The Sacrament of Reconciliation is that mental and behaviorial counseling with Christ's priest. Reconciliation is the opening of awareness of our heart, mind and soul to the will of God.
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No one renounces God out of feelings of unworthyness.
Those that know that they are unworthy are the ones who are drawn most to God to seek out His forgiveness. This is part of the "fear and trembling" that Christians feel when God is at work in us. This is what Paul said when he told us to work out our salvation with fear and trembling.
Of course in rare instances, there are some who sin gravely by believing that they have sinned to the point of no return, and that is the unforgivable sin - to believe that one cannot be forgiven - but these have not rejected God at all, this is an entirely separate sin.
The damned do not feel the least bit unworthy. They reject God because they want to sin and don't want anyone telling them that they can't.
Those that reject God do so out of pride and their desire for sin, not the slightest bit of feeling unworthy.
Pax et Bonum,
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"There are some in the Church, who not only do not do what is good, but even persecute it, and hate in others what they neglect to do themselves. The sin of these men is not that of infirmity or ignorance, but deliberate willful sin." — Pope St. Gregory the Great (AD 540-604)
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It can take time. But not always. The Parable of the Sower shows that not everyone has that fertile ground that is necessary for an enduring faith.
We all fall short. We all stumble. I have been a Christian for decades and I still stumble along the way, but I still feel that call to repentance. So my heart has not waxed cold.
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Who or what is telling you or calling you to repent over and over again, day after day, and year after year??
Your statement reminded me of this:
Heb:10:1: For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
Heb:10:2: For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
Heb:10:3: But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
As long as a Christian is getting that call to repentance, and hopefull heeding it. Then they are still united to God and their heart has not waxed cold
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Again where is that calling coming from , I am confused please tell me!
I am not talking about a single trip or stumble just automatically dooms us. I am saying that of course we will stumble on our journey, and God will call us back.
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How can we be called back if we renounce Jesus?
Heb:6:4: For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Heb:6:5: And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
Heb:6:6: If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
But whether it took one sin or a thousand sins, when a person stops feeling that call to repentence and does not repent of their sins, that person's heart has waxed cold and God has let them go. It is isn't God's fault. God did not forsake anyone. But He respects our choice.
Sin or God. We can only pick one.
Yes , can can pick rejection of Christ or renouncing Him if you were born again or the second choice trust and love God with your heart!
one love
I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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It can take time. But not always. The Parable of the Sower shows that not everyone has that fertile ground that is necessary for an enduring faith.
We all fall short. We all stumble. I have been a Christian for decades and I still stumble along the way, but I still feel that call to repentance. So my heart has not waxed cold.
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Who or what is telling you or calling you to repent over and over again, day after day, and year after year??
1 John 1:9; Romans 2:3-4; 2 Corinthians 7:10; 2 Corinthians 12:21. Need I say more?
Your statement reminded me of this:
Heb:10:1: For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
Heb:10:2: For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
Heb:10:3: But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
When was the last time you saw anyone offering a goat or a bull on an altar?
And in Hebrews 10, under the OT previously committed sins were not forgotten, they were only brought to remembrance. Under the New Covenant, those sins that have been forgiven are permanently forgotten. We do not need to feel any guilt over sins that we have previously repented of and been forgiven of.
At no time in Hebrews 10 were future sins discussed with respect to the priest or the sacrifice. The OT priests were not offering sacrifcies for sins not yet committed. They were offering for sins already committed.
Christ died for our sins and every sin that we have repented of and been forgiven for has been forgotten by God, but we have not yet repented of sins that we did not even know we were going to commit. Those sins we still need to repent.
No more goats and bulls. That part is done. Christ is our perfect offering and there is no more need of sacrificing animals.
As long as a Christian is getting that call to repentance, and hopefull heeding it. Then they are still united to God and their heart has not waxed cold
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Again where is that calling coming from , I am confused please tell me!
The Bible. And especially Paul. I quoted you the verses already, so there is no need to repeat them.
I am not talking about a single trip or stumble just automatically dooms us. I am saying that of course we will stumble on our journey, and God will call us back.
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How can we be called back if we renounce Jesus?
Heb:6:4: For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Heb:6:5: And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
Heb:6:6: If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Renouncing Christ is but one of the mortal sins. It is your religion that teaches that this is the only sin. Not mine.
The Bible says that Godly sorrow brings us to repentance, this is God calling us back. The specific in that caused Paul to write these words was not renouncing Christ but sexual sin. But any serious sin such as murder or theft could fall under this as well.
But whether it took one sin or a thousand sins, when a person stops feeling that call to repentence and does not repent of their sins, that person's heart has waxed cold and God has let them go. It is isn't God's fault. God did not forsake anyone. But He respects our choice.
Sin or God. We can only pick one.
Yes , can can pick rejection of Christ or renouncing Him if you were born again or the second choice trust and love God with your heart!
one love
Amen.
1 John 5:2-3 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
John 15:10 10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
There is no getting around this. This is a theme that runs through the entire Bible, not just the NT. This is what God wants from us. It is not a burden. His commandments make our lives better, both on this world and in the world to come.
Pax et Bonum,
Faith_at_Large
"There are some in the Church, who not only do not do what is good, but even persecute it, and hate in others what they neglect to do themselves. The sin of these men is not that of infirmity or ignorance, but deliberate willful sin." — Pope St. Gregory the Great (AD 540-604)
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It can take time. But not always. The Parable of the Sower shows that not everyone has that fertile ground that is necessary for an enduring faith.
We all fall short. We all stumble. I have been a Christian for decades and I still stumble along the way, but I still feel that call to repentance. So my heart has not waxed cold.
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Who or what is telling you or calling you to repent over and over again, day after day, and year after year??
1 John 1:9; Romans 2:3-4; 2 Corinthians 7:10; 2 Corinthians 12:21. Need I say more?
Your statement reminded me of this:
Heb:10:1: For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
Heb:10:2: For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
Heb:10:3: But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
When was the last time you saw anyone offering a goat or a bull on an altar?
And in Hebrews 10, under the OT previously committed sins were not forgotten, they were only brought to remembrance. Under the New Covenant, those sins that have been forgiven are permanently forgotten. We do not need to feel any guilt over sins that we have previously repented of and been forgiven of.
At no time in Hebrews 10 were future sins discussed with respect to the priest or the sacrifice. The OT priests were not offering sacrifcies for sins not yet committed. They were offering for sins already committed.
Christ died for our sins and every sin that we have repented of and been forgiven for has been forgotten by God, but we have not yet repented of sins that we did not even know we were going to commit. Those sins we still need to repent.
No more goats and bulls. That part is done. Christ is our perfect offering and there is no more need of sacrificing animals.
As long as a Christian is getting that call to repentance, and hopefull heeding it. Then they are still united to God and their heart has not waxed cold
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Again where is that calling coming from , I am confused please tell me!
The Bible. And especially Paul. I quoted you the verses already, so there is no need to repeat them.
I am not talking about a single trip or stumble just automatically dooms us. I am saying that of course we will stumble on our journey, and God will call us back.
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How can we be called back if we renounce Jesus?
Heb:6:4: For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Heb:6:5: And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
Heb:6:6: If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Renouncing Christ is but one of the mortal sins. It is your religion that teaches that this is the only sin. Not mine.
The Bible says that Godly sorrow brings us to repentance, this is God calling us back. The specific in that caused Paul to write these words was not renouncing Christ but sexual sin. But any serious sin such as murder or theft could fall under this as well.
But whether it took one sin or a thousand sins, when a person stops feeling that call to repentence and does not repent of their sins, that person's heart has waxed cold and God has let them go. It is isn't God's fault. God did not forsake anyone. But He respects our choice.
Sin or God. We can only pick one.
Yes , can can pick rejection of Christ or renouncing Him if you were born again or the second choice trust and love God with your heart!
one love
Amen.
1 John 5:2-3 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
John 15:10 10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
There is no getting around this. This is a theme that runs through the entire Bible, not just the NT. This is what God wants from us. It is not a burden. His commandments make our lives better, both on this world and in the world to come.
Sometime I think if I didn't get a deadly decease like HIV and got cured from it by revelation knowledge of the scriptures and the gospel I wouldn't have learn and know what I know is the sound truth to be able to answer many of your questions!
i thatnk God for giving an open heart of the truth and the too good news of the christian Gospel which is not just word and blah blah , but full of pwers, and anointings!wwwoooowww!  
Maybe many should get the same thing I had and thier eyes and heart might have to open up to the whole truth and no joking around, and must be spiritually aware and if not death will come sooner than you think!
Knowing who I am in Christ and that I am pure , holy justified ,sanctified in my spirit was one of the keys knowledge that brough force the manifestation of my healing!
If I didn't find this truth I know i would not be writting these posts here or anywhere else!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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And yet you were unable to answer what I wrote.
I hope that your healing was a gift and not a curse.
Life in this world is not our ultimate destination, and often diseases like cancer or AIDS have the side benefit of bringing people to Christ. Time under such limiting conditions has a way of healing spirits and giving pause for thought and repentance.
God heals all the time. My Church is filled with such examples, but how did you manage to come to such a conclusion that sin no longer matters? That you are pure no matter what?
The Bible says not to put God to the test and yet you seem to be doing that.
How do you know that you got the message right?
How do you know that God didn't just give you time to send you to me?
Pax et Bonum,
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"There are some in the Church, who not only do not do what is good, but even persecute it, and hate in others what they neglect to do themselves. The sin of these men is not that of infirmity or ignorance, but deliberate willful sin." — Pope St. Gregory the Great (AD 540-604)
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And yet you were unable to answer what I wrote.
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It is not I am unable to answer I know you are unable to understand and get a spiritual revelation knowledge of the truth!
i just have a hard time making what is spiritual into what is carnal and of the flesh reasonings!
It hard to teach religious demons!
I hope that your healing was a gift and not a curse.
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If I didn't get healed I would question my salvation myself, because healing belongs to our salvation and the good gospel, which is a awesome gift not a curse!
Gift from God is not a curse from God!
Eph:2:8: For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph:2:9: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Praise the Lord!
Life in this world is not our ultimate destination, and often diseases like cancer or AIDS have the side benefit of bringing people to Christ. Time under such limiting conditions has a way of healing spirits and giving pause for thought and repentance.
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God does not tempt anyone with evil you should know that by now, but laws of this world still s stand and you reap what you, or I sow, or you reap from a lack of knowledge which is your own distruction!
Hosea 4:6
God heals all the time. My Church is filled with such examples, but how did you manage to come to such a conclusion that sin no longer matters? That you are pure no matter what?
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NO! God already healed everyone, and disbelief is a killer!
We are even trained to die as such, and at a certain age.
I guess that is why Adam lived so many hundreds of years because he was never taught how to die and when!
Jesus paid for all sickness 2000years ago but because of our unbelief and lack of knowledge we don't use our God given faith and belief system to over come sickness so it our fault when we die earlier or with extreme pains, and suffereing of burn outs and depression unto death!
I am not sin conscious because I found out the truth who i am in Christ and being in Christ born again in my spirit which came brand new from God was given to me pure and sealed where no sins or anything bad can enter into my born again spirit!
I got the true revelation of these scripture and it came alive in my soul and body and manifested my healing of HIV:
2 Cor 5:17 Eph 4:24 2 cor 5:21 Eph 1:5-6 Luke 1:28 and specially this one Eph 1:13 , 1 john 4:17 , 1 john 3:9 and 1 peter 2:24 and so many more scriptures came alive like a miracle medicine which I recieved the living word as my testimony i am blessed not sick or cursed.
The Bible says not to put God to the test and yet you seem to be doing that.
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Do you think I tried with all my heart to get HIV and die of it to test God??
if I was so stupid I would jump from a 20 storage building and wait for an angel to catch me and use Psalms 91 as a scripture to let this be true for a angel to not let me dash my head against the ground or stone!
How do you know that you got the message right?
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i am a living witness FAITH!
How do you know that God didn't just give you time to send you to me?
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because the traditions of men made the word of God of no effect!
Also you are very carnal, and If I came to you I would have died long time ago!
Ro:8:5: For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
Ro:8:6: For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Ro:8:7: Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Ro:8:8: So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Eph:4:18: Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
Eph:4:19: Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.
Eph:4:20: But ye have not so learned Christ;
Eph:4:21: If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:
Eph:4:22: That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
Eph:4:23: And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
Eph:4:24: And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
I wish you would get the true meaing of this scripture:
1Co:1:27: But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
1Co:1:28: And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
1Co:1:29: That no flesh should glory in his presence.
1Co:1:30: But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
1Co:1:31: That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
Try to start getting glory in Jesus not a church from Rome!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
Edited by evangelist on 05/25/2012 05:11:20
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Try to start getting glory in Jesus not a church from Rome
We give glory and honor to Jesus through His Church.
We, from our founding in His Early Church, take literal His Word concerning His Body and His Blood.
That Apostolic "Church from Rome" continues to craddle and protect Jesus' Word - and has done so for 2,000 years.
She feeds and tends Jesus' sheep and lambs.
Evangelist, it is protestant error to attempt a man-made and human divorce of our Divine Saviour from His Church.
Edited by bwellmysoul on 05/25/2012 08:47:07
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Originally posted by bwellmysoul
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Try to start getting glory in Jesus not a church from Rome
We give glory and honor to Jesus through His Church.
We, from our founding in His Early Church, take literal His Word concerning His Body and His Blood.
That Apostolic "Church from Rome" continues to craddle and protect Jesus' Word - and has done so for 2,000 years.
She feeds and tends Jesus' sheep and lambs.
Evangelist, it is protestant error to attempt a man-made and human divorce of our Divine Saviour from His Church.
Let me get you clear on this do you give glory to God through your organization the catholic or you give Glory to God when you are in your church building??
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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