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I have taught on this truth and teaching so many times and I find this is not taught in many churches and would like to get others views on this important topic!I give a very good example and teaching example with curtains explaning about our born again spirits , and how more... I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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The Apocalypse is an good example of what is not alive and is just another as such religious words, like the Koran or another religious book like the book of mormons, which all seems good to the carnal flesh, and sound good to your carnal mind but is not thee inspired word of God!
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Says who? You?
The Book of Revelation has Christ's warnings to His Church concerning Christian attitude and works (and to each of us individually).
Evangelist, are you a cafeteria protestant - a person who picks and chooses Sacred Scripture which fits a personal theology and lifestyle?
We have many cafeteria Catholics - they pick and choose which of the Ten Commandments, which of the doctrines and which of the faith and moral teachings of the Church they wish to follow.
The biggest catholic vatican cafeteria person I know is your pope, the rest just follow the leader!
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Really. Pope Benedict is cafeteria?
What specifically offends you about Pope Benedict?
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So far you have refused to properly deal with anything I have given you. But we can go through Romans 5 if you like, so long as you consider Romans 8:1 in light of Ephesians 2:1-3 and Galatians 5:16. The spirit does not walk separately from the body. Until you get that Biblical fact through your head, then nothing else will make sense to you.
Keep those verses front and centre when looking at what is written in Romans 5 and 6.
Also, if there is a perceived discrepancy between what is written in Romans 5 or 6 and what is in the Gospel accounts, the Gospel records shall prevail. There is no discrepancy in what is written, but sometimes your interpretations tend to go a little out of range for the written text. When Paul is hard to understand, the Gospels are the original source material that Paul drew from, and so will provide the basis for clarifying what Paul actually meant.
I agree in what you said that we should use other scriptures which must back up any truths, because the bible does teach that the truth is alway in the mouth of two and three witness the word of God be establish which is stated in 2 Corithians 13 and a truth from Paul teaching, which is also a true way to keep biblical priciple and precepts, line upon line:
So on my next post let's disect and put Romans under the micropscope and magnify the Word of truth ok??
But I think if you don't seee the spiritual having first priority over the carnal natural thinking and reasonings satan can come and twist the truth and you won't get the true understanding and spiritual revelation knowledge of what the Holy Spirit is trying to teach you!
If you can't see the truth about your born again spirit being you as the new creature in Christ , you will end up making everything as one like you been doing and making what is spiritual carnal and Paul and Romans on first hand explains the spirit and flesh does not mix, they are enemies toward each other, while you are trying to make them the same.
That is like you trying to make water and electricity the same thing and even putting a live electrical wire in a glass and at the same time you are drinking from this glass thinking you won't get shocked to death, because they are one of the same , or both are in the same glass so they are one, which is a course for your destruction!
I which you will get the truth of how the spiritual is more power and seperate from the natural as such when you begin to understand how God first made this world and us in Gen 1!
What God said which was spiritual words, manifested the second sepretate part which is the things which we can see in the natural.
Yes God said , and then He saw!
Ge:1:3: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Ge:1:4: And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
That is why the sinner prayer is so powerful , because you say the sinner prayer with your heart of faith,which is really confesssing Rom 10:9,10 and then you are saved, which is the action or manifestation in your new born again spirit comes into you and thirdly, people will see what started spiritual manifest in your christian walk, and even last but least in a water baptism of a sign of what happen in the first part of your salvation when you got born again and saved symbolic in the natural for you and anyone in the natural to be a witness before men in what happen to you in the spiritual before God and all the angels which that actual part can't be seen in the natural!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIgtAVzBh0o&feature=relmfu
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI53x7dRH9k&feature=related
This is an awesome teaching specially a clear taching on Hebrews 10 and much more!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Evangelist,
What is your and Steve McVey's answer to this hypothetical:
If two O.S.A.S. Christians remain unrepentant of both their sexual acts outside of marriage and they then also abort their child, are they saved?
At what point exactly, does a O.S.A.S. Christian destroy their salvation?
Are these 'tipping points' of salvation being taught to all who believe O.S.A.S.?
I have to wonder, Pres. Obama supports Planned Parenthood and abortion. He says he's a Christian and yet he is assisting in the passing of laws to ensure that more unborn die. Does he actually think his soul is "saved"?
He said he would approve of his daughter killing his grandchild so that she would not be "punished with a baby."
Is that O.S.A.S. Christian relativism?
Is there objective Truth when you're O.S.A.S.?
Catholic politicans who approve of abortion and laws to normalize the killing of the unborn are being counciled that their souls are in danger of death and will never see the face of God.
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Evangelist,
What is your and Steve McVey's answer to this hypothetical:
If two O.S.A.S. Christians remain unrepentant of both their sexual acts outside of marriage and they then also abort their child, are they saved?
At what point exactly, does a O.S.A.S. Christian destroy their salvation?
Are these 'tipping points' of salvation being taught to all who believe O.S.A.S.?
I have to wonder, Pres. Obama supports Planned Parenthood and abortion. He says he's a Christian and yet he is assisting in the passing of laws to ensure that more unborn die. Does he actually think his soul is "saved"?
He said he would approve of his daughter killing his grandchild so that she would not be "punished with a baby."
Is that O.S.A.S. Christian relativism?
Is there objective Truth when you're O.S.A.S.?
Catholic politicans who approve of abortion and laws to normalize the killing of the unborn are being counciled that their souls are in danger of death and will never see the face of God.
Only when they renounceJesus as thier Lord like becoming a athiest , or muslim or JW, Mormon, or a pagan, unless they do the things they do because they were never saved in the first place or were never born again, just did some kind of lip service or put on a religious show!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Well, Obama says he's a Christian.
So then he's saved in your opinion.
His sin filled anti-Christ actions don't matter?
What is your opinion about Christ's warning in Luke 12:47-48?
Edited by bwellmysoul on 05/29/2012 15:21:21
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People are not Christians for many reasons.
Are you saying that people who grew up Muslim with their particular non-diety view of Jesus, will not be saved?
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Well, Obama says he's a Christian.
So then he's saved in your opinion.
His sin filled anti-Christ actions don't matter?
What is your opinion about Christ's warning in Luke 12:47-48?
What I know better is His love in John 3:18!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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What I know better is His love in John 3:18!
And what is your opinion about Christ's warning in Luke 12:47-48?
Edited by bwellmysoul on 05/29/2012 16:43:42
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Just curious, is the Book of Revelation the only dead word "not alive and as such just another religious word like the Koran..." in Sacred Scripture or do you have others?
Luther also wished to throw out Revelation...and Hebrews...and James...and Jude.
Edited by bwellmysoul on 05/29/2012 16:52:15
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Well, Obama says he's a Christian.
So then he's saved in your opinion.
His sin filled anti-Christ actions don't matter?
What is your opinion about Christ's warning in Luke 12:47-48?
For men we might question his salvation , but God knows the heart of Obama, and if he is born again, then he is righteous before God , and righteous people don't go to a purgatory or a hell!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Just curious, is the Book of Revelation the only dead word "not alive and as such just another religious word like the Koran..." in Sacred Scripture or do you have others?
Luther also wished to throw out Revelation...and Hebrews...and James...and Jude.
But the Holy Spirit did a awesome job, and God held His word all 66 inspiried books of the bible!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Well, Obama says he's a Christian.
So then he's saved in your opinion.
His sin filled anti-Christ actions don't matter?
What is your opinion about Christ's warning in Luke 12:47-48?
For men we might question his salvation , but God knows the heart of Obama, and if he is born again, then he is righteous before God , and righteous people don't go to a purgatory or a hell!
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How, can any Christian be righteous before God, when he / she is assisting in the killing of His innocents?
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Just curious, is the Book of Revelation the only dead word "not alive and as such just another religious word like the Koran..." in Sacred Scripture or do you have others?
Luther also wished to throw out Revelation...and Hebrews...and James...and Jude.
But the Holy Spirit did a awesome job, and God held His word all 66 inspiried books of the bible!
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Yesterday, you wrote something very different about the Book of Revelation.
You write a contradition.
Yesterday you wrote that the Book of Rev was dead and today it's an inspired book.
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Well, Obama says he's a Christian.
So then he's saved in your opinion.
His sin filled anti-Christ actions don't matter?
What is your opinion about Christ's warning in Luke 12:47-48?
For men we might question his salvation , but God knows the heart of Obama, and if he is born again, then he is righteous before God , and righteous people don't go to a purgatory or a hell!
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How, can any Christian be righteous before God, when he / she is assisting in the killing of His innocents?
Because our born again spirit can't kill and doesn't want to see anyone hurt in anyways!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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