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Comprehending God Poe, the Bible and Candid style.

Posted on 05/14/2012 at 11:17:27  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
Comprehending God Poe, the Bible and Candid style.

Poe said...
If we cannot comprehend God in his visible works, how then in his inconceivable thoughts, that call the works into being? If we cannot understand him in his objective creatures, how then in his substantive moods and phases of creation?

This is basically what scriptures say when they say to seek God in the heavens. Nature IOW.

These views are what led to my apotheosis and I endorse them wholeheartedly.

When I was a seeker, before I found this clip below. I had concluded that reality was in the best and only state that it could be in. This best state included nature as well as man within it.

When this was written, most thought it to just be a cynical view of life but I think it is quite true and irrefutable, based on the anthropic principle and the notion that a God would start things of in a good way as scriptures indicate for Eden and that that best way would be self-perpetuating because I could not imagine a God using creation as a make work project that he would have to tweak every now and then as scriptures indicated that he did.

Candide

"It is demonstrable that things cannot be otherwise than as they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPClzIsYxvA

The above quote should make sense to both believers and non-believers alike, if you see nature always doing the best it can with all the conditions at hand taken into account.

I would like to stay away from discussions of God’s existence here because I think any such discussion would be speculative nonsense as none of our opinions of God is true knowledge and none of it can be proven until he actually shows up. Even as I do not believe in a creator God, I will not argue with those who give credit to him instead of nature and evolution. It is what is here that I would ask you to focus on.

Just looking at nature and mankind then at this point in time, can we agree that what we have is the best of all possible worlds, given all the conditions at hand?

To set you on the tract and mindset that I developed, I would like you to think of the day you were born.
Can you say that given all the conditions at hand back then, your DNA and all other conditions, nature produced you to the very best condition that she could muster?
If yes, consider that the next day let’s say, after you began to learned and found the teat and continued learning and developing, right till today, that the initial best you, in the best of all possible world, are continuously aging as the best that you can possible be, given all the conditions at hand.
Not perfect, but the best you can possibly be.

Are you living in the best of all possible world and are you today, the best that nature can produce, given all the conditions at hand?

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DL
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Posted on 05/14/2012 at 12:14:07  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0

DL,

"Nature" is incapable of producing life from nothing.

I hope you continue to search through the "Reasons to Believe" website.

There are now over 130 known constants that must be correctly sequenced and occuring to produce and sustain intelligent life on a planet.

The "fine tuning" neccesary to produce life points to a super natural Intelligence behind the design.

Life is fragile and delicate, but our bodies are only one part of who we are.

God made us in His image, and He is Spirit. He gave us human life but more importantly He gave us the gift of our eternal souls.



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Posted on 05/14/2012 at 17:28:56  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
Thanks for not speaking to the issue.

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DL
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Posted on 05/14/2012 at 18:43:48  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
What created nature and evolution? You can not have a uncaused cause because that would not be scientific.
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Posted on 05/15/2012 at 06:30:20  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
I don't know and neither do you. And putting a God of the gaps into the equation witout proof, scientific or not is foolish. LOL.

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Posted on 05/15/2012 at 06:34:32  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
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Originally posted by Greatest I am 2

I don't know and neither do you. And putting a God of the gaps into the equation witout proof, scientific or not is foolish. LOL.

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Science does know. They are finally realizing that a higher Intelligence has to be behind the sequences that have both made life possible on Earth and have sustained that creation.

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Posted on 05/15/2012 at 08:15:32  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
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Originally posted by Greatest I am 2

I don't know and neither do you. And putting a God of the gaps into the equation witout proof, scientific or not is foolish. LOL.

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DL

Pride & envy are non physical things. Yet they exist. & we know they exist. They are spirit.

Sorry I can not put pride & envy into a scientific jar for you but I do know they exist.

Pride & envy can spread through thin air from one person to another, or to a group of persons.

Pride & envy are not limited by time or space. People had the same spirit of pride & envy generations & generations ago.

Greatest I am 2 I want you to prove to me that these non physical spirits do not exist.
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Posted on 05/15/2012 at 09:18:42  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
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Originally posted by bwellmysoul

quote:
Originally posted by Greatest I am 2

I don't know and neither do you. And putting a God of the gaps into the equation witout proof, scientific or not is foolish. LOL.

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DL



Science does know. They are finally realizing that a higher Intelligence has to be behind the sequences that have both made life possible on Earth and have sustained that creation.





Whatever your deluded mind wants to believe.

http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/news/file002.html

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Posted on 05/15/2012 at 09:21:18  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
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Originally posted by michael

quote:
Originally posted by Greatest I am 2

I don't know and neither do you. And putting a God of the gaps into the equation witout proof, scientific or not is foolish. LOL.

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DL

Pride & envy are non physical things. Yet they exist. & we know they exist. They are spirit.

Sorry I can not put pride & envy into a scientific jar for you but I do know they exist.

Pride & envy can spread through thin air from one person to another, or to a group of persons.

Pride & envy are not limited by time or space. People had the same spirit of pride & envy generations & generations ago.

Greatest I am 2 I want you to prove to me that these non physical spirits do not exist.



Pride and envy exist for sure.

Your God is the epitome of both.

That's scripture.

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Posted on 05/15/2012 at 10:56:36  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
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Originally posted by Greatest I am 2

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Originally posted by michael

quote:
Originally posted by Greatest I am 2

I don't know and neither do you. And putting a God of the gaps into the equation witout proof, scientific or not is foolish. LOL.

Regards
DL

Pride & envy are non physical things. Yet they exist. & we know they exist. They are spirit.

Sorry I can not put pride & envy into a scientific jar for you but I do know they exist.

Pride & envy can spread through thin air from one person to another, or to a group of persons.

Pride & envy are not limited by time or space. People had the same spirit of pride & envy generations & generations ago.

Greatest I am 2 I want you to prove to me that these non physical spirits do not exist.



Pride and envy exist for sure.

Your God is the epitome of both.

That's scripture.

Regards
DL

I have seen teens & others who were normal, who mingled with others who had pride & envy & the pride & envy was passed on through the others who did not have it before.

Spirits are real. The Holy Spirit is real. God is real.

Im still waiting for scientists to put time in a scientific jar.
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