Who Wants ////////Half A Church???

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Originally posted by mikejuli

G4. I never walked away from god. Don't be silly. I did walk away from the Pentecostal sect. But that is a sect and not a god.

The church did not kill bible believing Christians. That is bogus. It is the propaganda you accept and unfortunately is accepted by many who reject the faith, but it isn't true. It's only an attemp to disregard the real problem of heresy. Anyway Catholics are bible believing Christians so your completely off base. They are the only ones that actually believe the whole bible and not just the parts they want to.

The mass contains the greatest miracle available to Christians. Babbling isn't a miracle anyway you look at it. It's just babbling. Stigmata, healing, miracles abound in the catholic faith that go well beyond the little tricks found in pentecostal churches. They are not of the devil, but I can see how someone who is as blind as you could think so. Your really just afraid of truth and the word of god being a living thing. It's how you control. It's how you manipulate. And I'm not fooled by it. That must really make you mad.

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Originally posted by Faith_at_Large

Baby3, your links don't always work but I found the page from that site:

God Hates the Catholic Church

G4 will love it, and so will many others, sadly.

The page offers lots of things that are true. But they mix them up with things that are their own private interpretation and what they think the Catholic Church does.

For example, they speak of how Jesus condemned man-made traditions, but they do not fully grasp the part about "nullifying the Word of God".

In that passage, Jesus was condemning those who had created a tradition whereby they could pay a donation to the Temple to get out of looking after their parents in their old age, nullifying the Commandment to honour one's parents.

Jesus was rightly upset. And this is very true. We should never do that.

But why is that site mad at the Catholics. I am glad to see that they have adopted many of the traditions that the Catholic Church has upheld for centuries - they oppose abortion - get in line, we were there first. They oppose divorce, where were they when everyone was mocking the Catholic teaching on this? They get a little over the top with their opposition to homosexuality, but again, they were behind us in opposing the trend to normalize this condition.

Why are they not upset with all the Protestant churches that broke away on all these matters, coming up with their own tradition to nullify what God had said?

The Bible says not to worship a graven image, and yet they do not fully grasp what a graven image is. God was forbidding the creation and worship of manmade gods. Idolatry. Catholics are forbidden to practice any form of idolatry, but the difference is that we know what the Bible is saying, they don't have the history or the understanding - they just blindly preach what they think is there.

They speak against Marian doctrines as if they have no basis in Scripture - but the fact is they all have basis in Scripture. It is their intrepretation of a a few verses that force a contradiction. If they were honest with their assertions and applied them uniformly, even Jesus himself would have been a sinner. He was after all born of a woman.

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Originally posted by God4me

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Originally posted by mikejuli

G4. I never walked away from god. Don't be silly. I did walk away from the Pentecostal sect. But that is a sect and not a god.

The church did not kill bible believing Christians. That is bogus. It is the propaganda you accept and unfortunately is accepted by many who reject the faith, but it isn't true. It's only an attemp to disregard the real problem of heresy. Anyway Catholics are bible believing Christians so your completely off base. They are the only ones that actually believe the whole bible and not just the parts they want to.

The mass contains the greatest miracle available to Christians. Babbling isn't a miracle anyway you look at it. It's just babbling. Stigmata, healing, miracles abound in the catholic faith that go well beyond the little tricks found in pentecostal churches. They are not of the devil, but I can see how someone who is as blind as you could think so. Your really just afraid of truth and the word of god being a living thing. It's how you control. It's how you manipulate. And I'm not fooled by it. That must really make you mad.

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[1]You have been to blinded by the devil to know the truth, Anyone who walks away from a pentecostal Church into a catholic church has lost their salvation.
It is immposible for a Born again Christian to go to a catholic church, Their spirit would convict them, Which proves you have lost the Holy Spirit, [You are un-regenerated] again.
And the Bible says anyone in your state can never be saved again.

[2]The catholic church did kill the Bible believing Christians, Because the Bible was challenging their authority, And hiostory proves it.

[3]If you think the devil decieving eucharist is the greatest miracle, Then you haven't seen any real miracles..FACT.
Tongues is a miracle. STOP TELLING LIES.

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Originally posted by Faith_at_Large

Well, there is no denying that this site is filled with your level of hate.

God has no part in that site.

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Originally posted by baby3

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Originally posted by God4me

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Originally posted by mikejuli

G4. I never walked away from god. Don't be silly. I did walk away from the Pentecostal sect. But that is a sect and not a god.

The church did not kill bible believing Christians. That is bogus. It is the propaganda you accept and unfortunately is accepted by many who reject the faith, but it isn't true. It's only an attemp to disregard the real problem of heresy. Anyway Catholics are bible believing Christians so your completely off base. They are the only ones that actually believe the whole bible and not just the parts they want to.

The mass contains the greatest miracle available to Christians. Babbling isn't a miracle anyway you look at it. It's just babbling. Stigmata, healing, miracles abound in the catholic faith that go well beyond the little tricks found in pentecostal churches. They are not of the devil, but I can see how someone who is as blind as you could think so. Your really just afraid of truth and the word of god being a living thing. It's how you control. It's how you manipulate. And I'm not fooled by it. That must really make you mad.

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[1]You have been to blinded by the devil to know the truth, Anyone who walks away from a pentecostal Church into a catholic church has lost their salvation.
It is immposible for a Born again Christian to go to a catholic church, Their spirit would convict them, Which proves you have lost the Holy Spirit, [You are un-regenerated] again.
And the Bible says anyone in your state can never be saved again.

[2]The catholic church did kill the Bible believing Christians, Because the Bible was challenging their authority, And hiostory proves it.

[3]If you think the devil decieving eucharist is the greatest miracle, Then you haven't seen any real miracles..FACT.
Tongues is a miracle. STOP TELLING LIES.

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Sorry G4 Mike will never go to hell he is a Christian and a wonderful father, husband, and person. I love Mike and always will. I would give up my place in heaven if I thought that he would ever miss out but I know for certain he will be there:) Peace! Mike is a child of the living God.

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Originally posted by Faith_at_Large

G4, you swear more often and far worse than any Catholic on this forum.

You judge in a way that the Bible forbids, and frequently bear false witness.

We shall know them by their fruits and your fruit is rotten through and through. Please repent.

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Originally posted by God4me
"Mised heaven mike", Is going to hell, He admits he was born again and has walked away from the truth,
See Heb 6: 4--6, & Heb 10: 26--31.

Again, you are attempting to demean and dehumanize another human being. This is sinful.

Mised heaven mike isn't a Christian, He was, But now he's a catholic, And all catholics are3 going to hell.

G4Me, by the lack of evidence you have displayed on this forum, you have yet to master humility. Are you aware of what Jesus said the first step was in order to enter the Kingdom of God?

Paul sais those that preach another gospel are damned, And catholic preach another gospel.

How unfortuneate for you, in that your interpretation of the Gospel was man-made in and around the 1,500s.

The Bible says we are saved/justified by faith, Not by works.
The catholics say, NO..That not true,
We are saved by Faith AND WORKS.

Salvation comes through the conversion of a person's heart, mind and soul toward the will of God.

The Bible says we are justufied by faith alone,
The catholics say, "If anyone says that, Let them be anathema".

No where does Sacred Scripture pinch off justification at faith "alone". The word "alone" was added by Martin Luther.

So you can see the catholics preach another gospel, And therefore they are going to hell..FACT.

No, protestants preach another gospel, one which was developed in the 1,500s, absent of Apostolic Tradition to teach protestants the correct way to interpret Scripture.


PS, You said Mike is wonderful man,

What is so wonderful about a man who swears, tells lies, loves hanging around with people that tell dirty jokes,Ans has walked away from God because the light was to right for him, It shown a light on his sins and lack of faith.

Now tell me what is so wonderful about Mike??.

You have a hypocritically short memory. You demean other people by calling them "devils" "stupid" "fools" "burkes" etc.

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2476 False witness and perjury.

When it is made publicly, a statement contrary to the truth takes on a particular gravity. In court it becomes false witness.276 When it is under oath, it is perjury.

Acts such as these contribute to condemnation of the innocent, exoneration of the guilty, or the increased punishment of the accused.277

They gravely compromise the exercise of justice and the fairness of judicial decisions.


2477 Respect for the reputation of persons forbids every attitude and word likely to cause them unjust injury.278

He becomes guilty:

- of rash judgment who, even tacitly, assumes as true, without sufficient foundation, the moral fault of a neighbor;

- of detraction who, without objectively valid reason, discloses another's faults and failings to persons who did not know them;279

- of calumny who, by remarks contrary to the truth, harms the reputation of others and gives occasion for false judgments concerning them.

2478 To avoid rash judgment, everyone should be careful to interpret insofar as possible his neighbor's thoughts, words, and deeds in a favorable way:


Every good Christian ought to be more ready to give a favorable interpretation to another's statement than to condemn it. But if he cannot do so, let him ask how the other understands it. And if the latter understands it badly, let the former correct him with love. If that does not suffice, let the Christian try all suitable ways to bring the other to a correct interpretation so that he may be saved.280


2479 Detraction and calumny destroy the reputation and honor of one's neighbor. Honor is the social witness given to human dignity, and everyone enjoys a natural right to the honor of his name and reputation and to respect. Thus, detraction and calumny offend against the virtues of justice and charity.

2480 Every word or attitude is forbidden which by flattery, adulation, or complaisance encourages and confirms another in malicious acts and perverse conduct. Adulation is a grave fault if it makes one an accomplice in another's vices or grave sins. Neither the desire to be of service nor friendship justifies duplicitous speech. Adulation is a venial sin when it only seeks to be agreeable, to avoid evil, to meet a need, or to obtain legitimate advantages.

2481 Boasting or bragging is an offense against truth. So is irony aimed at disparaging someone by maliciously caricaturing some aspect of his behavior.

2482 "A lie consists in speaking a falsehood with the intention of deceiving."281 The Lord denounces lying as the work of the devil: "You are of your father the devil, . . . there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies."282

2483 Lying is the most direct offense against the truth. To lie is to speak or act against the truth in order to lead someone into error. By injuring man's relation to truth and to his neighbor, a lie offends against the fundamental relation of man and of his word to the Lord.

2484 The gravity of a lie is measured against the nature of the truth it deforms, the circumstances, the intentions of the one who lies, and the harm suffered by its victims. If a lie in itself only constitutes a venial sin, it becomes mortal when it does grave injury to the virtues of justice and charity.

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Originally posted by Faith_at_Large

No. You judge using the Bible as an excuse.

And yes, you have been swearing up a storm. Just because you are using a filthy swear word to say "fool" does not change the fact that you have been using a filthy swear word.

If you want to call someone a fool, then just say fool. Using sexual slang to mean fool is still using sexual slang.

Calling someone a "f*cker" also means that they are a fool, but that does not mean it is not swearing.

I can also use "jackass" for fool. Would you like it if I called you a jackass? Or how about just plain "ass"? That also means fool. Just check out a thesaurus.

How about a "prick"? That also means fool, and is a similar filthy swear, but at least this one pertains to a man instead of a woman.

I don't like using such foul language on any forum, much less a Christian one, but you should know what you are saying when you spout such language.

There are other words that are used for fool that are equally foul, and a few worse, but I don't want to foul up my keyboard.

If you want to say "fool", then just say "fool".

And lucky for me only God judges me and not you. None of us are damned until we are judged when we die, so how dare you make such judgments. Do you not know that you will be judged as you have judged?

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Originally posted by bwellmysoul

G4Me,

Nothing against people who suffer with bi-polar, but are you bi-polar?

You have never swear'd? On this bulletin board?

We all here, can attest that you have.

You have never judged?

We all here, can attest that you have. In fact, that's 80% of what your post concern.

In your post above, you are sending all Catholics to hell. You routinely say that Catholics worship the devil. Your sin against us, is extreme and blatant.

Unless you are ignorant of Scripture, which you attest yourself that you are not, then you know what personal judgement is and that you are doing this.

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