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The signs of the true Church.1 Cor 14: 26 says when you come together,[ Every Church meeting]Everyone of you, Have a Psalm, a doctrine, a tongue, a revelation and an interpretation of tongues.PLEASE NOTE.This is for the whole congregation, not just Minister.Who in your more...
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Interesting, that you think the discussion has gotten off the rails.
My gift is evident.
What gifts are operating in the Catholic Church? The Catholic Church has the Creator of the the gifts, the Holy Spirit.
When the protestantisms said "yes" to divorce and remarriage and divorce and remarriage and divorce and remarriage, the Holy Spirit told the Pope "no".
When the various protestantisms said "yes" to women in the priesthood, the Holy Spirit told the Pope "no".
When the various protestantisms said "yes" to artifical birth control, the Holy Spirit told our Pope "no".
When many protestantisms said "yes" to abortion, the Holy Spirit told our Pope "no".
As many protestantisms say "yes" to noncelibate homosexuals in their clergy, the Holy Spirit has told our Pope "no".
As the protestantisms begin saying "yes" to homosexual marriage, the Holy Spirit has told our Pope "no".
As many of the protestantisms say "yes" to government enforced payment by religious organizations for their abortifacients, sterilizations and birth control, the Catholic Church has said "no".
Will you stop avoiding the question YOU NAUGHTY MAN.
What gifts of the Spirit operate in your church, And what gifts do you have.
It's a simple enough question.
Edited by God4me on 06/01/2012 00:27:33
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God4me If you refuse the answers what is the point of asking the questions?
God4me Why will you not answer my questions?
The answear is, Because your not the true Church..FACT.
Why were those 7 books in the King James bible IF they were added?
Why were those books put into the King James bible?
It is well documented that Protestants removed those books go & buy a early King James bible & SEE for yourself. Who are you trying to fool?
It was Protestants who removed them in the mid 1800s
I have a friend with a early 1800s King James bible & it has those 7 books in it.
Love the greatest gift of all. We Catholics are taught to do works of love.
1 cor 13
[1] If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
[2] And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
[3] If I give away all I have, and if I deliver my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing.
[4] Love is patient and kind; love is not jealous or boastful;
[5] it is not arrogant or rude. Love does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;
[6] it does not rejoice at wrong, but rejoices in the right.
[7] Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
 Love never ends; as for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away.
[9] For our knowledge is imperfect and our prophecy is imperfect;
[10] but when the perfect comes, the imperfect will pass away.
[11] When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became a man, I gave up childish ways.
[12] For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall understand fully, even as I have been fully understood.
[13] So faith, hope, love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
Stop avoiding the question YOU NAUGHTY MAN.
What gifts do you have in your church servises??
how many speak in tongues, How many sing worship in tongues??
Who has the word of wisdom, Who has the word of Knowledge?
And so--on??.
What gifts do you have?.
ANSWEARS PLEASE, and stop getting of subject.
Love is the subject.
If you speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love what does scripture say you are?
At Mass we are shown love & at the end of Mass we are sent out too love.
At Mass God gives himself to us & we give ourself back to God by loving others.
God4me the question is do you love?
God4me calling me names is rude not loving.
Love is the greatest gift of all. Having the love of God in your heart turning your heart of stone into a heart of flesh. Loving others as yourself.
If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. Love is the greatest gift.
Scriptures says if I understand all mysteries and all knowledge but have not love, I am nothing.
What gifts do I have? Self giving love is the most important to me.
God4me are you boasting about tongues, wisdom, & what you know?
Will you stop avoiding the question YOU NAUGHTY MAN.
What gifts of the Spirit operate in your church, And what gifts do you have.
It's a simple enough question.
Love is a fruit of the Spirit, NOT A GIFT.
There a quite a few catholics on this forum, And not one of them has the gifts of the Spirit in them.
It just proves that catholics aren't the true Church. FACT
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There it is again; on the wind. That ever-so-faint and retreating sound of a clanging gong and a banging cymbal.
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There it is again; on the wind. That ever-so-faint and retreating sound of a clanging gong and a banging cymbal.
That'll be the catholics.
Will you stop avoiding the question YOU NAUGHTY MAN.
What gifts of the Spirit operate in your church, And what gifts do you have.
It's a simple enough question.
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All of them operate in my Church, and each of us has gifts, but not all the same gifts. Those gifts are between us and God and to be used for the betterment of the Body of Christ, not to show off for our neighbours.
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"There are some in the Church, who not only do not do what is good, but even persecute it, and hate in others what they neglect to do themselves. The sin of these men is not that of infirmity or ignorance, but deliberate willful sin." — Pope St. Gregory the Great (AD 540-604)
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There it is again; on the wind. That ever-so-faint and retreating sound of a clanging gong and a banging cymbal.
That'll be the catholics.
Will you stop avoiding the question YOU NAUGHTY MAN.
What gifts of the Spirit operate in your church, And what gifts do you have.
It's a simple enough question.
There it is again. Clang and bang in the far distance.
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There it is again; on the wind. That ever-so-faint and retreating sound of a clanging gong and a banging cymbal.
That'll be the catholics.
Will you stop avoiding the question YOU NAUGHTY MAN.
What gifts of the Spirit operate in your church, And what gifts do you have.
It's a simple enough question.
There it is again. Clang and bang in the far distance.
You catholics are the living proof that the catholic church isn't the true Church.
There isn't one of you who have the gifts of the Spirit operating in your churches.
A true Christian wouldn't be satisfied with no gifts being manifested in their church.
Yet catholics are satified with boring religious services.
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The gifts are alive in the catholic church. They always have been. They are not the cheap satanic imitations you offer g4 and that is probably why your confused.
http://minmaxsunt.wordpress.com/2012/05/27/pentecost/
So what gifts operate in your church??.
If there were any gifts in operation in your church, You would have said by now.
How dare you call God most Holy gifts that I do,
"Cheap satanic imitations",
It's a good job you are already going to hell.
If the gifts have always been in the catholic church, How come Doubt_at_large thinks reading the Bible in church is prophecy??.
You would know what the gifts are.
And how come one of you catholics on this forum says tongues have ceased??.
If one gift has ceased, Then they all have.
So Tell me, What gigts operate in your church and what gift do you have??.
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So what gifts operate in your church??.
all of them. many have been mentioned here but rather than consider the truth you just write it off as not real or of satan.. not my fault you cannot handle the truth g4.
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If there were any gifts in operation in your church, You would have said by now.
we have mentioned gifts of tongues, healing, miracles, signs and wonders aplenty. so don't play that game. if you had scriptures for being slain in the spirit you would have mentioned those by now.
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How dare you call God most Holy gifts that I do,
"Cheap satanic imitations",
i don't call gods gifts any such things. i do call the man made sensationalistic garbage found in pentacostal churches that.. deal with it. i've seen your "gifts" and found them to be baloney.
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It's a good job you are already going to hell.
a real christian would never think it's a good thing for anyone to go to hell. your legalism shines forth g4.
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If the gifts have always been in the catholic church, How come Doubt_at_large thinks reading the Bible in church is prophecy??.
You would know what the gifts are.
because it is.. you think prophecy is just about the future or having some so called prophet come and do your fortunes at church.. yep just lacking a crystal ball... but prophecy is really as simple as hearing the word of God my friend. anyway real prophecy of the kind you speak has to be fulfilled.. how honest are you? i was always taking notes when those clown would come to make a proffit.. and not once did their claims come true. not once. anything true were things that everyone already knew..
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And how come one of you catholics on this forum says tongues have ceased??.
most non catholics believe tongues have ceased as well. i don't think tonges have ceased at all. i aslo don't think that the babbling that goes on at pentecostal churches is that gift. it's just pagan babbling.
[quuote]If one gift has ceased, Then they all have.
So Tell me, What gigts operate in your church and what gift do you have??.
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my gifts are of mercy, leadership, helps, teacher.
g4 the gifts have always been part of the church. being pentecostal in the real sense is so much more than having the ability to babble or pretend to prophecy. it's not something you can just cliam either. your sect was not at the real pentecost.. the catholic church was and it carries that gifting through the ages.
signs of the real church are that it is one, holy, catholic and apostolic.
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So what gifts operate in your church??.
all of them. many have been mentioned here but rather than consider the truth you just write it off as not real or of satan.. not my fault you cannot handle the truth g4.
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If there were any gifts in operation in your church, You would have said by now.
we have mentioned gifts of tongues, healing, miracles, signs and wonders aplenty. so don't play that game. if you had scriptures for being slain in the spirit you would have mentioned those by now.
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How dare you call God most Holy gifts that I do,
"Cheap satanic imitations",
i don't call gods gifts any such things. i do call the man made sensationalistic garbage found in pentacostal churches that.. deal with it. i've seen your "gifts" and found them to be baloney.
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It's a good job you are already going to hell.
a real christian would never think it's a good thing for anyone to go to hell. your legalism shines forth g4.
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If the gifts have always been in the catholic church, How come Doubt_at_large thinks reading the Bible in church is prophecy??.
You would know what the gifts are.
because it is.. you think prophecy is just about the future or having some so called prophet come and do your fortunes at church.. yep just lacking a crystal ball... but prophecy is really as simple as hearing the word of God my friend. anyway real prophecy of the kind you speak has to be fulfilled.. how honest are you? i was always taking notes when those clown would come to make a proffit.. and not once did their claims come true. not once. anything true were things that everyone already knew..
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And how come one of you catholics on this forum says tongues have ceased??.
most non catholics believe tongues have ceased as well. i don't think tonges have ceased at all. i aslo don't think that the babbling that goes on at pentecostal churches is that gift. it's just pagan babbling.
[quuote]If one gift has ceased, Then they all have.
So Tell me, What gifts operate in your church and what gift do you have??.
my gifts are of mercy, leadership, helps, teacher.
g4 the gifts have always been part of the church. being pentecostal in the real sense is so much more than having the ability to babble or pretend to prophecy. it's not something you can just cliam either. your sect was not at the real pentecost.. the catholic church was and it carries that gifting through the ages.
signs of the real church are that it is one, holy, catholic and apostolic.
[1]OK If the gifts are operating in your church, Tell me what gifts operated in your last service.
Who gave the tongue for interpreting?, Who gave the interpretation?.
What did it say.
Who gave the prophecy, What did it say.
Who gave the word of wisdom or the word of knowledge??
Who were used in the gifts of healings or the working of miracles??.
At least one of those gifts must have been manifested.
Yet no catholic on this forum has reported any of those gifts operating in their church.
[2]How dare you call God's most Holy gifts,
sensationalistic garbageand baloney.
[3]I don't think it is good that your going to hell, But it is the choice that you have made, And it can't be changed.
[4]Prophecy isn't hearing the word of God,[As in the Bible]
[5]You said,
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my gifts are of mercy, leadership, helps, teacher.
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There not the gifts of the Spirit.
I take it that you don't have a gift??.
[6]If the catholic church was the true Church, There must be at least one of you catholics on this forum that have the gifts manifested in your church, But none of you do.
So how can you claim to be the true Church??.
Your not doing very well AGAIN, Are you??.
[7]If the sign of the Church is, "One", Then that rules out the catholics, As there are nearlt 40.000 branches of the catholic churc, All teaching different doctrines.
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I would like to see how he goes. Padre Pio and Brother Andre were both very gifted as well.
I was listening to a podcast recently and the host indicated that there were over 400 cases verified of Catholic saints raising the dead. Not counting the many more who healed and thus prevented untimely deaths.
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I would like to see how he goes. Padre Pio and Brother Andre were both very gifted as well.
I was listening to a podcast recently and the host indicated that there were over 400 cases verified of Catholic saints raising the dead. Not counting the many more who healed and thus prevented untimely deaths.
Stop avoiding the question,
What gifts are in operation in YOUR CHURCH.
What gifts do you have.
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