Church Documents Proving Pentecostalism
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I have spent a great deal of time studying early Christian writings, and I can not help but think (know) that the early Church was Catholic. Some people on here (namely, g4) believe that the early Church was Pentecostal (in the modern sense of the term), but I have tried to wrap my mind around this claim, and I can not see it. It would help if someone could show me certain documentation which proves that the early Church believed in the prosperity gospel, speaking in tongues as a sign/means of salvation, sola scriptura, etc.
Thanks ahead of time for your time and consideration.
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Edited by acumenCry on 06/15/2012 23:58:33
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I have spent a great deal of time studying early Christian writings, and I can not help but think (know) that the early Church was Catholic. Some people on here (namely, g4) believe that the early Church was Pentecostal (in the modern sense of the term), but I have tried to wrap my mind around this claim, and I can not see it. It would help if someone could show me certain documentation which proves that the early Church believed in the prosperity gospel, speaking in tongues as a sign/means of salvation, sola scriptura, etc.
Thanks ahead of time for your time and consideration.
The early Church was Spirit filled, tongue talking God believing Church.
So that rules out the catholics, as they are Spirit filled, They don't speak in tongues or have the gifts of the Spirit as you all have proved when you proved you weren't the true Church.
And catholics don't believe in God, They believe the pope's porkies and the catholic con-men.
The early Church wasn't catholic, STOP TELLING LIES YOU NAUGHTY MAN.
AS for tongues being the evidence of the baptism in the Holy Ghost, See, Acts 2: 4. Acts 8: 14--21. Acts 9: 17. Acts 10: 44--46. Acts 19: 2--6.
The five Biblical accounts of people being baptised in the Holy Ghost, And they all spoke in tongues, Proving the Biblical proof of the baptim in the Holy Ghost is tongues.
As for prosperity, The very first thing Jesus said in Lk 4: 18, Is He came to preach the gospel to the poor, What is the good news to the poor??, They don't have to be poor anymore.
Jesus went about doing good, Acts 10: 38,The meaning of,"Doing good", Is, Giving to the poor.
Jesus said give and it shall be given to you, Good measure pressed down, shaken together and RUNNING OVER. Lk 6: 38.
Paul, Who got the revelationd from Jesus said Jesus became poor that we will be rich. 2 Cor 8:9.
And, if we give, We'll be abundantly prosperous. 2 Cor 9: 6--10.
As for "Sola scriptura", See Prov 30: 5.
I don't know why you say you cannot see it, OH yes I can, It's because you don't believe the Bible.
You have been whipped AGAIN by the Bible.
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He was asking about historical records from the early Church period, not your private interpretation of the scriptures, or your erroneous assumptions about the Catholic Church of which you know very little.
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He was asking about historical records from the early Church period, not your private interpretation of the scriptures, or your erroneous assumptions about the Catholic Church of which you know very little.
[1]That is the hostorical fact of the pentecostal Church.
[2]It's not my private interpretation of the scriptures, STOP TELLING LIES YOU WICKED EVIL NAUGHTY WOMAN.
It's a good job you are already going to hell.
[3]I seem to know more about the catholic church then you do.
One reasons is, You are to blinded by the errors in the catholic church to see the truth facts about how evil they are.
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Gr, historical facts have evidence to prove them. You have no historical evidence to back up your repeated claims. Ergo, you have no facts.
Since you are unwilling to provide any evidence to support your claim and have repeatedly resorted to name-calling and other unChristian behaviour on this Christian forum, I will follow the Biblical directive to treat you as a Gentil and a Tax Collector. Good day.
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"There are some in the Church, who not only do not do what is good, but even persecute it, and hate in others what they neglect to do themselves. The sin of these men is not that of infirmity or ignorance, but deliberate willful sin." — Pope St. Gregory the Great (AD 540-604)
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G4, you did not provide the evidence I requested. You simply recycled twisted excerpts from the gospel of g4 which was derived from Bible verses being taken out of context. Did you even read my post? Don't bother trying to answer me anymore. I want feedback from non-Catholic Christians, not nonsensical narcissists.
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G4, you did not provide the evidence I requested. You simply recycled twisted excerpts from the gospel of g4 which was derived from Bible verses being taken out of context. Did you even read my post? Don't bother trying to answer me anymore. I want feedback from non-Catholic Christians, not nonsensical narcissists.
Since when has telling you what the Bible says, Been twisting it??.
WAKE UP YOU DOPEY MAN.
I didn't take the scriptures out of context, If you knew the Bible you would know that.
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See OP.
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See OP.
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Originally posted by God4me
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Originally posted by acumenCry
G4, you did not provide the evidence I requested. You simply recycled twisted excerpts from the gospel of g4 which was derived from Bible verses being taken out of context. Did you even read my post? Don't bother trying to answer me anymore. I want feedback from non-Catholic Christians, not nonsensical narcissists.
Since when has telling you what the Bible says, Been twisting it??.
WAKE UP YOU DOPEY MAN.
I didn't take the scriptures out of context, If you knew the Bible you would know that.
It is rude, selfish, immature, & un-Christian to call people "DOPEY"
Protestantism did not exist before Martin Luther. So the early Church simply could not have been Protestant Pentecostal denomination.
Logically the Catholic Church had to exist before Protestantism otherwise Protestants would have nothing to protest.
To imply that the early Church was a Protestant denomination is immature & ignorant.
Protestants need to go back & read the origin of Protestantism & the histories of their particular denominations & the men who started them.
Through bigotry prejudices false assumptions & false premises Protestants are protesting a catholic church made up by Protestantism that does not actually exist.
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Originally posted by michael
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Originally posted by God4me
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Originally posted by acumenCry
G4, you did not provide the evidence I requested. You simply recycled twisted excerpts from the gospel of g4 which was derived from Bible verses being taken out of context. Did you even read my post? Don't bother trying to answer me anymore. I want feedback from non-Catholic Christians, not nonsensical narcissists.
Since when has telling you what the Bible says, Been twisting it??.
WAKE UP YOU DOPEY MAN.
I didn't take the scriptures out of context, If you knew the Bible you would know that.
It is rude, selfish, immature, & un-Christian to call people "DOPEY"
Protestantism did not exist before Martin Luther. So the early Church simply could not have been Protestant Pentecostal denomination.
Logically the Catholic Church had to exist before Protestantism otherwise Protestants would have nothing to protest.
To imply that the early Church was a Protestant denomination is immature & ignorant.
Protestants need to go back & read the origin of Protestantism & the histories of their particular denominations & the men who started them.
[1]You are just as dopey as acumencry. As protestents aren't pentecostal, Most of them aren't even Christians.
In my country there is a big diffeence between Christians and protestants.
[2]The Pentecostal Church started on the day of pentecost, [Hence, Pentecostal], And it has been going ever since.
[3]I have never said the early Church was protestnt, STOP TELLING LIES, As I said, protestants aren't Christians.
As I said, You really are dopey.
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Not true. If so, then you should have no problem proving it.
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Well I can prove it,the Jews were not Catholic and they had allot of churches called temples.
G4 you make it very hard for anyone to coincide with you because you say all protestants are not Christians,this is truly a lie!!!
Lets see some proof that you are the true church if you can prove it:)B3
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Originally posted by michael
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Originally posted by God4me
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Originally posted by acumenCry
G4, you did not provide the evidence I requested. You simply recycled twisted excerpts from the gospel of g4 which was derived from Bible verses being taken out of context. Did you even read my post? Don't bother trying to answer me anymore. I want feedback from non-Catholic Christians, not nonsensical narcissists.
Since when has telling you what the Bible says, Been twisting it??.
WAKE UP YOU DOPEY MAN.
I didn't take the scriptures out of context, If you knew the Bible you would know that.
It is rude, selfish, immature, & un-Christian to call people "DOPEY"
Protestantism did not exist before Martin Luther. So the early Church simply could not have been Protestant Pentecostal denomination.
Logically the Catholic Church had to exist before Protestantism otherwise Protestants would have nothing to protest.
To imply that the early Church was a Protestant denomination is immature & ignorant.
Protestants need to go back & read the origin of Protestantism & the histories of their particular denominations & the men who started them.
[1]You are just as dopey as acumencry. As protestents aren't pentecostal, Most of them aren't even Christians.
In my country there is a big diffeence between Christians and protestants.
[2]The Pentecostal Church started on the day of pentecost, [Hence, Pentecostal], And it has been going ever since.
[3]I have never said the early Church was protestnt, STOP TELLING LIES, As I said, protestants aren't Christians.
As I said, You really are dopey.
I can not believe you are going to blatently be immature, rude, putting yourself above others, & un-Christian & insist on calling me & others dopey.
Are you going to insist on putting yourself above others calling me & others dopey? Or are you going to apologize?
There is no way you or any Protestant can link themselves to the early Church no matter what you redefine yourself to be.
Through bigotry prejudices false assumptions & false premises Protestants are protesting a catholic church made up by Protestantism that does not actually exist.
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B3, what exactly did you prove? The early Church was Catholic, even before the term came about. Technically, the first Christians were Jews, yes, but Gentiles became the majority over time. The universal Church was (and is) composed of both Jew and Gentile, as it was in the blueprints from the beginning.
Don't forget, Gentiles - the Magi - sought, found and worshipped Jesus even before the Gospel was preached.
Matthew 2:11 On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him. Then they opened their treasures and presented him with gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh.
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Edited by acumenCry on 06/17/2012 21:18:05
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G4, like it or not, you are a Protestant. So, according to you, you are not a Christian.
You sure do condemn yourself with your own rules a lot.
Truth is, Protestants are Christians. And judging by their fruits, the professing prots I know are much more Christlike than you (sadly, even most of the non-practicing ones).
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