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Conclusive proof from the inerrant Scriptures that Catholics are without God!
2 John 9
Anyone who runs ahead
and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God;
Since Roman Catholics have advanced beyond the teaching of Christ and the apostles
and promote veneration and prayer to Mary and other departed saints,
indulgences, veneration of dead bodies and papal infallibility,
they therefore do not have God.
Jn 8:43-44 Why is my language not clear to you?
Because you are unable to hear what I say.
You belong to your father, the devil,
and you want to carry out your father’s desires.
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Is it really possible to "advance beyond the teachings of Christ"?
What Catholics do have, of course, is the Body & Blood of Christ in the Eucharist, which sub & post Christian beliefs reject. We have the primacy of Peter, and the role of Apostolic Succession, which is all confirmed by Scripture, though it pre-existed Scripture. We have historical proof that most protestant bodies began only in recent centuries, and in recent years, whereas Catholicism is traced to the time before scripture was codified. And we have much more besides.
But, hey, don't let that put you off from being a mis-informed bigot, a man of hate, and a usurper of the Holy Spirit. You just carry on using Scripture to justify your blasphemies and distortions. You feel free to judge where you have no right to judge, to determine the will of God in whatever way you and 'buddy jesus' finds convenient. When you get to Heaven, and I sincerely hope you do, you will be embarrassed by this nonsense you preach, and grateful for the fidelity of the true Christ to His Church.
so what's your next gambit? Claiming to be a greek scholar...?
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Is it really possible to "advance beyond the teachings of Christ"?
What Catholics do have, of course, is the Body & Blood of Christ in the Eucharist, which sub & post Christian beliefs reject. We have the primacy of Peter, and the role of Apostolic Succession, which is all confirmed by Scripture, though it pre-existed Scripture. We have historical proof that most protestant bodies began only in recent centuries, and in recent years, whereas Catholicism is traced to the time before scripture was codified. And we have much more besides.
But, hey, don't let that put you off from being a mis-informed bigot, a man of hate, and a usurper of the Holy Spirit. You just carry on using Scripture to justify your blasphemies and distortions. You feel free to judge where you have no right to judge, to determine the will of God in whatever way you and 'buddy jesus' finds convenient. When you get to Heaven, and I sincerely hope you do, you will be embarrassed by this nonsense you preach, and grateful for the fidelity of the true Christ to His Church.
so what's your next gambit? Claiming to be a greek scholar...?
There is no such Biblical teachings as the body & blood of Christ in the eucharist.
There is no such Biblical teachinngs as the Apostolic succession.
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Since both are in the Bible, you must have a different understanding of what is Biblical.
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Originally posted by philial
Is it really possible to "advance beyond the teachings of Christ"?
What Catholics do have, of course, is the Body & Blood of Christ in the Eucharist, which sub & post Christian beliefs reject. We have the primacy of Peter, and the role of Apostolic Succession, which is all confirmed by Scripture, though it pre-existed Scripture. We have historical proof that most protestant bodies began only in recent centuries, and in recent years, whereas Catholicism is traced to the time before scripture was codified. And we have much more besides.
But, hey, don't let that put you off from being a mis-informed bigot, a man of hate, and a usurper of the Holy Spirit. You just carry on using Scripture to justify your blasphemies and distortions. You feel free to judge where you have no right to judge, to determine the will of God in whatever way you and 'buddy jesus' finds convenient. When you get to Heaven, and I sincerely hope you do, you will be embarrassed by this nonsense you preach, and grateful for the fidelity of the true Christ to His Church.
so what's your next gambit? Claiming to be a greek scholar...?
There is no such Biblical teachings as the body & blood of Christ in the eucharist.
There is no such Biblical teachinngs as the Apostolic succession.
There is no such teaching as being slain in the spirit in the bible. Hypocrite.  scribe and Pharisees are all you a g 4.
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Conquered. Did you know the "inerrant scriptures" are also beyond the teaching of Christ and the apostles. There is no record of any of them stating which books were to be added the the Hebrew scriptures. The only way that could happen would be if apostolic succession were true and the church was infallible. But you think that is going beyond, so by your own logic, if you were consistent, you should also reject the new testament. but somehow I don't think your the kind of guy who is consistent. Ty's hard to be consistent when you don't have a clue what your talking about and rely on men for your beliefs.
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Since both are in the Bible, you must have a different understanding of what is Biblical.
[1]Jesus wasn't speaking literally when he said it was His body, It was metaphorically.
[2]Where does the Bible teach Apostolic succession??.
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He was speaking truthfully g4. The ancient church has always understood this. Modern sects and cults can believe what they want but they are so far removed from the time and language, as well as apostolic succession, which is clearly demonstrated in scripture, by Christ giving the apostles authority to bind and loose, and then by those apostles, passing on that authority to matthias and Paul (who was given the right hand of fellowship) and them to those that followed. What it doesn't teach is the notion of self proclaimed prophets and apostles which is the only way modern cults can make a claim of authority... Most people see through that though.
I do find it interesting tha so many born agains make a stink about taking the bible literally where genesis is concerned, even to the point of claiming you cannot be saved unless you believe genesis literally, but then turn around and say Jesus was just kidding about the body and blood. It's just more proof that all sects believe in tradition just like the Catholics... Except they lie that they only believe the bible and behind that lie get to make claims without the safeguards found in the catholic church which have protected its doctrine from the fallacies found in modern sects and cults.
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Conclusive proof from the inerrant Scriptures that Catholics are without God!
2 John 9
Anyone who runs ahead
and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God;
Since Roman Catholics have advanced beyond the teaching of Christ and the apostles
and promote veneration and prayer to Mary and other departed saints,
indulgences, veneration of dead bodies and papal infallibility,
they therefore do not have God.
You got all of that from one misinterpreted verse taken out of context?
Through bigotry prejudices false assumptions & false premises Protestants are protesting a catholic church made up by Protestantism that does not actually exist.
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Originally posted by God4me
[1]Jesus wasn't speaking literally when he said it was His body, It was metaphorically.
Refer to Mark 4:34
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He did not say anything to them without using a parable. But when He was alone with His own disciples, He explained everything.
Jesus, in the Upper Room, (at the Last Supper and after His Resurrection)was only with His Apostles.
He took unleavened bread, He blessed it, broke it, gave it to His Apostles and said, "This is My Body." God did the same thing with the wine (which at Cana He'd turned water directly into wine) and then He told the Apostles, "This is My Blood."
St. Paul taught his disciples that they must discern the Body, because those who did not, were falling sick and others were dying.
1 Corinthians 11:29
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For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself.
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[2]Where does the Bible teach Apostolic succession??.
John 20:21
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Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you."
Matthew 16:18
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New Living Translation (©2007)
Now I say to you that you are Peter (which means 'rock'), and upon this rock I will build my church, and all the powers of hell will not conquer it.
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Jesus held up his own body and blood at the last supper and the Catholics present feasted like cannibals hoping to obtain eternal life, by becoming like Jesus.
There were many paedophiles since and failed miserably to become like Jesus.
There are still many Catholics hoping to get the same results.
they are either very deceived or extremely stupid or both!
Jn 8:43-44 Why is my language not clear to you?
Because you are unable to hear what I say.
You belong to your father, the devil,
and you want to carry out your father’s desires.
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Just like the Pagans in Rome. They said pretty much the same thing.
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"There are some in the Church, who not only do not do what is good, but even persecute it, and hate in others what they neglect to do themselves. The sin of these men is not that of infirmity or ignorance, but deliberate willful sin." — Pope St. Gregory the Great (AD 540-604)
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Originally posted by bwellmysoul
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Originally posted by God4me
[1]Jesus wasn't speaking literally when he said it was His body, It was metaphorically.
Refer to Mark 4:34
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He did not say anything to them without using a parable. But when He was alone with His own disciples, He explained everything.
Jesus, in the Upper Room, (at the Last Supper and after His Resurrection)was only with His Apostles.
He took unleavened bread, He blessed it, broke it, gave it to His Apostles and said, "This is My Body." God did the same thing with the wine (which at Cana He'd turned water directly into wine) and then He told the Apostles, "This is My Blood."
St. Paul taught his disciples that they must discern the Body, because those who did not, were falling sick and others were dying.
1 Corinthians 11:29
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For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself.
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Originally posted by God4me
[2]Where does the Bible teach Apostolic succession??.
John 20:21
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Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you."
Matthew 16:18
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New Living Translation (©2007)
Now I say to you that you are Peter (which means 'rock'), and upon this rock I will build my church, and all the powers of hell will not conquer it.
There you go AGAIN, Twisting the scriptures, YOU REALLY REALLY ARE VERY NAUGHTY.
The Bible doesn't say the eucharist literally becomes the body.
The Bible doesn't mention Apostolic succession.
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Originally posted by mikejuli
He was speaking truthfully g4. The ancient church has always understood this. Modern sects and cults can believe what they want but they are so far removed from the time and language, as well as apostolic succession, which is clearly demonstrated in scripture, by Christ giving the apostles authority to bind and loose, and then by those apostles, passing on that authority to matthias and Paul (who was given the right hand of fellowship) and them to those that followed. What it doesn't teach is the notion of self proclaimed prophets and apostles which is the only way modern cults can make a claim of authority... Most people see through that though.
I do find it interesting tha so many born agains make a stink about taking the bible literally where genesis is concerned, even to the point of claiming you cannot be saved unless you believe genesis literally, but then turn around and say Jesus was just kidding about the body and blood. It's just more proof that all sects believe in tradition just like the Catholics... Except they lie that they only believe the bible and behind that lie get to make claims without the safeguards found in the catholic church which have protected its doctrine from the fallacies found in modern sects and cults.
Jesus was speaking metaphorically about eating His body.
The true ancient Church never believed it, Only the false churches believed it.
Jesus gave every believe rthe power and authority, Not just the Apostles, And there is no such Biblical doctrine od Apostiolic succession.
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How does a person read the New Testament Scriptures and not see the Apostolic succession?
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They don't. They read a phrase here and a line there according to their traditions and use concordances to redefine what applies to them and what does not.
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"There are some in the Church, who not only do not do what is good, but even persecute it, and hate in others what they neglect to do themselves. The sin of these men is not that of infirmity or ignorance, but deliberate willful sin." — Pope St. Gregory the Great (AD 540-604)
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