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We has posters like God4me who publicly declare that they hate what the Catholic Church teaches. Please list some of the Catholic teachings you hate, oppose or simply disagree with.
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Actually it is kind of ironic.
The Catholic Church defined the doctrine of the Trinity, the two natures of Christ in the Hypostatic union - being both God and Man, and so many other things that most Protestants take for granted.
If they only knew that these were doctrines that were discussed and debated and not just accepted solely on the basis of the Bible. Hindsight is 20/20. It all seems to right now and so simple and so Biblical, but it isn't.
Without that Catholic Vatican, Christianity has fractured to the point where some elements are almost unrecognizable.
Pax et Bonum,
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"There are some in the Church, who not only do not do what is good, but even persecute it, and hate in others what they neglect to do themselves. The sin of these men is not that of infirmity or ignorance, but deliberate willful sin." — Pope St. Gregory the Great (AD 540-604)
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Originally posted by evangelist
It up to you to bekieve what your catholic vatican tell you, it your choice!
one love
Another irony. Those who wholeheartedly want us to ignore what the Vatican says, wholeheartedly want us to believe what they say.
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Originally posted by Faith_at_Large
Actually it is kind of ironic.
The Catholic Church defined the doctrine of the Trinity, the two natures of Christ in the Hypostatic union - being both God and Man, and so many other things that most Protestants take for granted.
If they only knew that these were doctrines that were discussed and debated and not just accepted solely on the basis of the Bible. Hindsight is 20/20. It all seems to right now and so simple and so Biblical, but it isn't.
Without that Catholic Vatican, Christianity has fractured to the point where some elements are almost unrecognizable.
STOP TELLING LIES, YOU WICKED EVIL HELLBOUND WOMAN.
It was the Biblical Charactors, Inspired by God who difined the trinity and the two natures of Christ, Not the evil catholic church.
If there was no catholic vatican, the devil would have to find another group of hellbound liars.
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Originally posted by evangelist
It up to you to bekieve what your catholic vatican tell you, it your choice!
one love
Another irony. Those who wholeheartedly want us to ignore what the Vatican says, wholeheartedly want us to believe what they say.
Not only does Gos ignor the vatican, But He knows they are an abomination to Him.
And God does want you to believe what He says.
But catholics rather believe the pope's porkies and the
catholic con-men.
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Originally posted by bwellmysoul
Historical fact, the Apostles taught Christ in the Eucharist, as did the Early Church, as did Catholics and Orthodox throughout all ages. They also reconciled sinners to the Lord prior to receiving the Eucharist.
The deformers in the 1500s, gutted Christ from their denominations and instead chose their man-made Sola Scriptura doctrines in which each and every man could determine what they wished to believe and what they wished to throw out.
STOP TELLING LIES You wicked man.
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Originally posted by God4me
[1]Your arguement is with God, Not with me, STOP TELLING LIES.
My arguments are with you; I can only be arguing with “god” if you consider yourself a god.
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[2]If you don't believe the Bibles criptures and the Greek proof that I gave you about Mary having other children, Then you are either Very ignorant of the Bible & Greek, Very thick or down right dishonest.
You did not give any proof. All you did is post what you heard from other misguided elements with no clue about what the Bible says. Mary did not have other children, no matter how hard-headed you repeat that lie.
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[3]I have given Biblical & Greek proof that Mary had other Children, Al you catholics have given is pure speculation.
Not at all.
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[If this went to a court of law, I would win, because I have given Proof whereas all you give is speculation.
You did not give any proof. You simply reproduced falsehoods you heard from others.
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As I said, You are arguing with God...Not with me.
Yes, that is what you said but you are wrong as always.
STOP TELLING LIES, You naughty hellbound man.
I can tell your a catholic.
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Originally posted by Kamati
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Originally posted by God4me
[1]Salvation is justification,You can't be Justified without being saved, Justification is, "Made right before God, Righteous in God's eyes, In right standing with God"
You can't be in right standing with Gos without being saved.
catholics do use James 2,to claim they are saved by works.
As an introduction, please read this and then we can talk:
http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/a126.htm
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Originally posted by God4me
[2]Jesus was speaking metaphorically in Jn 6, It's the same as,
You are forcing Jesus to speak metaphorically because that is what suits your theology, but if true, then that means we can not trust what the Bible says ... we should rather wait until God4me tells us what is literal and what is a metaphor. For all practical purposes, that implies that the common man should not be allowed to read the Bible for himself because he may misunderstand it. That is what you are saying. And that makes you (and your kind) the only authoritative interpreter of the Bible. Ironically, when you persist with that line of argument, you inadvertently demolish the Protestant claim that each individual should read and interpret the Bible for himself.
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Originally posted by God4me
Matt 26: 26, Was Jesus giving them bread or His acctual body in Matt 26: 26??.
He was giving them bread and saying it [the bread] is His body. Do you believe Jesus or you will rather believe your pastor who contradicts Jesus’ words?
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What was you saying about me twisting the scriptures??.
Guese what, YOUR WRONG..AGAIN.
No, I am not wrong.
1. When the Bible says the Church is the ground of truth, you say “no, the ground of truth is the Bible”.
2. When Jesus says “this is my body”, you say “no, the bread can not be Jesus’ body”.
When Jesus says my body is true food, you say “no, Jesus can not be eaten”.
So you are constantly on the wrong side of Scripture, twisting it to suit your errors.
[1]There are a typical load of catholic lies in that link.
[2]Jesus was speaking metaphorically in Jn 6, As I said, compare it to Matt 26: 26.
Was Jesus giving them bread or His body??.WAKE UP.
AND STOP TELLING LIES.
[3]You are wrong again STOP TELLING LIES.
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Originally posted by God4me
[1]How can the catholic church be the true Church when it was formed by the devil at least 300-60 years after Jesus built His TRUE Church??.
That is what your pastor told you, but where is the evidence? When exactly was the Catholic Church founded between 300 and 600 ... and by whom?
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Originally posted by God4me
And no catholic on this forum speaks in tongues or does healing, miracles or signs & wonders.
How do you know that? Did you do divinations? By the way do you know that the devil mimics the gifts of the Holy Spirit to deceive the gullible? Here is what you failed to tell us:
1. Pentecostals speak is tongues, yet they disagree with the teachings of the UCKG that also speak in tongues. Now, how can the Holy Spirit of the Pentecostals disagree with the Holy Spirit of the UCKG?
2. Pentecostals speak in tongues attributing them to the Holy Spirit, yet the Baptists, who also claim to have the Holy Spirit, dismiss Pentecostal tongues as satanic. Total confusion ... and who is the author of confusion?
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[So how can you be the true Church..WAKE UP.
The Catholic Church is Christ’s true Church ... that statement alone is enough to anger the devil in you.
[1]catholic History proves the catholics weren't formed unti 300-600 years later, And catholic priest have admited it.
[2]I know catholics don't speak in tongues, because I did a post asking them.
The post was, "The signs of the true Church".
And all the catholics on this forum proved they aren't the true Church, None of them speak in tongues, heal the sick, cast out demons or do miracles.
[3]You are a typical fales religious man Claiming God's most Holy gift is of the devil.
Yet you never once gave God the glory for the gifts.
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[ [2]Paul wasn't telling lies in Eph 4: 5.
He was saying the "ONE baptism" is the rebirth, Read it in it's right context.
Yes, one baptism is the rebirth ... that we all know. Rebirth means regeneration, but you deny baptismal regeneration.
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V4, One body & one Spirit, Even as you are called, Compare with 1 Cor 12: 13.
Eph 4: 5, One lord One faith, One baptism.
Paul is talking about our Spiritual rebirth, There is only one rebirth.
Yes, there is only one rebirth, and that is baptism.
If you knew the Bible,[Which you don't], And if you knew the original Greek, You would know baptism doesn't save.
Besids, The catholics preists don't baptise most catholics.
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Originally posted by God4me
The Bible is full of God's word, So the Bible is God's word.
In other words, when I challenged you to produce the Bible text that says the Bible is God's word, you came up empty-handed. No Bible text, no chapter, no verse ... NOTHING! You see yourself forced to claim that the Bible is God's word because it is full of God's word. But Muslims can say the same about their Koran, isn't it?
I will keep asking this question until you see the light: where does the Bible say "the Bible is the word of God"?
You will eventually either admit that only tradition tells you that the Bible is the word of God, or you will remains in denial.
If you ever read the Bible, Instead of the pope's porkies, You would know the Bible is full of God's word.
You really really are one of the devils agents.
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Originally posted by God4me
The Bible is full of God's word, So the Bible is God's word.
In other words, when I challenged you to produce the Bible text that says the Bible is God's word, you came up empty-handed. No Bible text, no chapter, no verse ... NOTHING! You see yourself forced to claim that the Bible is God's word because it is full of God's word. But Muslims can say the same about their Koran, isn't it?
I will keep asking this question until you see the light: where does the Bible say "the Bible is the word of God"?
You will eventually either admit that only tradition tells you that the Bible is the word of God, or you will remains in denial.
If you ever read the Bible, Instead of the pope's porkies, You would know the Bible is full of God's word.
You really really are one of the devils agents.
why you don't come to this thread G4?
http://www.speroforum.com/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=13.8666666666667&TOPIC_ID=7716#164102
I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Originally posted by God4me
[STOP TELLING LIES, YOU WICKED EVIL HELLBOUND WOMAN.
A pity that is instead of arguing you have reduced yourself to shouting slogans.
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Originally posted by God4me
It was the Biblical Charactors, Inspired by God who difined the trinity and the two natures of Christ, Not the evil catholic church.
Where does the Bible say that? NOWHERE! You heard that lie from your pastor and believed it.
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Originally posted by God4me
If there was no catholic vatican, the devil would have to find another group of hellbound liars.
The devil already has your divisive sects at his disposal.
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Originally posted by God4me
Not only does Gos ignor the vatican, But He knows they are an abomination to Him. And God does want you to believe what He says.
But catholics rather believe the pope's porkies and the
catholic con-men.
We believe God when he says “obey your leaders and submit to them”, but you don’t believe that; we also believe God when He says He founded one church and that church is indefectible, you do not believe that. You think God’s church has defected a long time ago.
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STOP TELLING LIES You wicked man.
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STOP TELLING LIES, You naughty hellbound man.
I can tell your a catholic.
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Originally posted by God4me
[1]There are a typical load of catholic lies in that link.
Same old feel-good slogans again.
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Originally posted by God4me
[2]Jesus was speaking metaphorically in Jn 6, As I said, compare it to Matt 26: 26.
But where does the Bible say Jesus was speaking metaphorically? NOWHERE!
Now, since the Bible does not tell us that Jesus was speaking metaphorically, someone must have told you that Jesus was speaking metaphorically, but who is he and why should I believe him?
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Was Jesus giving them bread or His body?
He gave them bread saying it is His body. When Jesus speaks you better believe Him, but you find that a “hard saying” like the Jews in John. You are in a very bad company!
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[3]You are wrong again STOP TELLING LIES.
Same old feel-good slogans again.
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[1]catholic History proves the catholics weren't formed unti 300-600 years later, And catholic priest have admited it.
My question remains: provide evidence, including the date and the name of the founder. But no, God4me simply has no answer.
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Originally posted by God4me
[2]I know catholics don't speak in tongues, because I did a post asking them. The post was, "The signs of the true Church".
And all the catholics on this forum proved they aren't the true Church, None of them speak in tongues, heal the sick, cast out demons or do miracles.
Hmmm ... I wonder whether all the billion Catholics participated at that “post”, at least i did not. So, you used a very skewed method to arrive at that conclusion. And on the subject of tongues I think we need a separate thread. And you still did not tell me why “spirit-filled” people who speak in tongues disagree on doctrine.
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[3]You are a typical fales religious man Claiming God's most Holy gift is of the devil.
You claim Christ’s church of the devil, don’t you? Yet you do not want anyone calling the divisive sects as devil-inspired, why? Who is the father of these divisions?
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Yet you never once gave God the glory for the gifts.
How do you know that?
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If you knew the Bible,[Which you don't], And if you knew the original Greek, You would know baptism doesn't save.
Ah, God4me now claims to know Greek even more than the Greek Orthodox Church, or why does the Greek Church disagree with your understanding of Greek?
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If you ever read the Bible, Instead of the pope's porkies, You would know the Bible is full of God's word.
Yes, the Bible is full of God’s word but so are other writings. Muslims believe the Koran is full of God’s word. Why do you believe the Bible and not the Koran?
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You really really are one of the devils agents.
And you think that such feel-good statement replaces the need for a well resoaned argument ... that is pity!
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Originally posted by God4me
[STOP TELLING LIES, YOU WICKED EVIL HELLBOUND WOMAN.
A pity that is instead of arguing you have reduced yourself to shouting slogans.
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Originally posted by God4me
It was the Biblical Charactors, Inspired by God who difined the trinity and the two natures of Christ, Not the evil catholic church.
Where does the Bible say that? NOWHERE! You heard that lie from your pastor and believed it.
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Originally posted by God4me
If there was no catholic vatican, the devil would have to find another group of hellbound liars.
The devil already has your divisive sects at his disposal.
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Originally posted by God4me
Not only does Gos ignor the vatican, But He knows they are an abomination to Him. And God does want you to believe what He says.
But catholics rather believe the pope's porkies and the
catholic con-men.
We believe God when he says “obey your leaders and submit to them”, but you don’t believe that; we also believe God when He says He founded one church and that church is indefectible, you do not believe that. You think God’s church has defected a long time ago.
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STOP TELLING LIES You wicked man.
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Originally posted by God4me
STOP TELLING LIES, You naughty hellbound man.
I can tell your a catholic.
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Originally posted by God4me
[1]There are a typical load of catholic lies in that link.
Same old feel-good slogans again.
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Originally posted by God4me
[2]Jesus was speaking metaphorically in Jn 6, As I said, compare it to Matt 26: 26.
But where does the Bible say Jesus was speaking metaphorically? NOWHERE!
Now, since the Bible does not tell us that Jesus was speaking metaphorically, someone must have told you that Jesus was speaking metaphorically, but who is he and why should I believe him?
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Was Jesus giving them bread or His body?
He gave them bread saying it is His body. When Jesus speaks you better believe Him, but you find that a “hard saying” like the Jews in John. You are in a very bad company!
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[3]You are wrong again STOP TELLING LIES.
Same old feel-good slogans again.
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Originally posted by God4me
[1]catholic History proves the catholics weren't formed unti 300-600 years later, And catholic priest have admited it.
My question remains: provide evidence, including the date and the name of the founder. But no, God4me simply has no answer.
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Originally posted by God4me
[2]I know catholics don't speak in tongues, because I did a post asking them. The post was, "The signs of the true Church".
And all the catholics on this forum proved they aren't the true Church, None of them speak in tongues, heal the sick, cast out demons or do miracles.
Hmmm ... I wonder whether all the billion Catholics participated at that “post”, at least i did not. So, you used a very skewed method to arrive at that conclusion. And on the subject of tongues I think we need a separate thread. And you still did not tell me why “spirit-filled” people who speak in tongues disagree on doctrine.
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[3]You are a typical fales religious man Claiming God's most Holy gift is of the devil.
You claim Christ’s church of the devil, don’t you? Yet you do not want anyone calling the divisive sects as devil-inspired, why? Who is the father of these divisions?
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Yet you never once gave God the glory for the gifts.
How do you know that?
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Originally posted by God4me
If you knew the Bible,[Which you don't], And if you knew the original Greek, You would know baptism doesn't save.
Ah, God4me now claims to know Greek even more than the Greek Orthodox Church, or why does the Greek Church disagree with your understanding of Greek?
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Originally posted by God4me
If you ever read the Bible, Instead of the pope's porkies, You would know the Bible is full of God's word.
Yes, the Bible is full of God’s word but so are other writings. Muslims believe the Koran is full of God’s word. Why do you believe the Bible and not the Koran?
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You really really are one of the devils agents.
And you think that such feel-good statement replaces the need for a well resoaned argument ... that is pity!
[1]You are a typical lying catholic.
[2]You are a big hypocrite, You quote scriptures but you don't believe the Bible.
[3]You have to say the teachings doesn't have to be in the Bible, Because you know your teachings aren't in the Bible.
You are just a devil inspired man made false religion.
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You are consistent in your hypocrisy G4.
You believe your Bible is full of Pentecostal translation errors and that "you alone" are the authority who determines what to keep and what to throw out.
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Originally posted by God4me
[1]You are a typical lying catholic.
Prove it! All you have to do is to list at least two lies I have posted and compare them with the Bible truth and every one would know that I lied. I promise you that the moment you do that I will openly admit wrong doing, but if you fail to do that every one here will know you have no leg to stand on.
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[2]You are a big hypocrite, You quote scriptures but you don't believe the Bible.
I do believe the Bible 100%.
1. When the Bible says the church is the pillar and the ground of truth I believe it;
2. When the Bible says “take and eat, this is my body” I believe it;
3. When the Bible says “obey your leaders and defer to them” I believe it.
But in all three instances you do not believe the Bible; you believe your pastor when he twists it.
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[3]You have to say the teachings doesn't have to be in the Bible, Because you know your teachings aren't in the Bible.
Okay, now show me where the Bible says all teachings must be in the Bible. If you can not do that, then that is you who believe a teaching that is not in the Bible. I think your task is very easy now. All you have to do is show me where the Bible says all teachings must be in the Bible. Are you able to show me such a Bible text or will you rather continue believing in your pastor’s lies?
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You are just a devil inspired man made false religion.
You have such a nice feeling after posting such a statement ... and that is all the devil needs to keep you in bondage.
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