Catholics are no cannibals!
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How can Catholics eat the real flesh,of the ONE, who resides bodily in heaven?
Jn 8:43-44 Why is my language not clear to you?
Because you are unable to hear what I say.
You belong to your father, the devil,
and you want to carry out your father’s desires.
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That the bread and wine is exactly what it is, and doesn't manifest into jesus magically and literally!
Now, what purpose does such "ordinary food" serve in a believer's spiritual life? Why did Jesus command believers to waste their time with such useless "works" is faith is all we need? (please spend a minute thinking about that one).
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So for the dog it all would be wnat it is food and wine!
Perhaps you did not understand my question or you are dodging it deliberately. I asked: is it right or wrong to give communion to a dog? I am asking from a believer's perspective, not from the dog's perpective. If you still do not understand the question, then choose one from the following proposed answers:
A. It is wrong to give communion to a dog.
B. It is not wrong to give communion to a dog.
C. I have no idea.
A. It is wrong to give communion to a dog.
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That the bread and wine is exactly what it is, and doesn't manifest into jesus magically and literally!
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Moot point Evan. The catholic position isn't that the bread and wine magically manifest into anything. What we so believe is that the bread and wine become the body and blood substantially. It operates in the same way other sacraments do, that unseen grace is realized in seen objects. An example would be like in marriage a couple becomes on flesh. They don't magically and literally become one flesh do they? No, but the reality on a substantial level is that they true are married.
So it all spiritually done with alot of faith!
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Exactly. But we don't have faith in a symbol but a reality.
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Exactly. But we don't have faith in a symbol but a reality.
The wafer is the reality!
Jn 8:43-44 Why is my language not clear to you?
Because you are unable to hear what I say.
You belong to your father, the devil,
and you want to carry out your father’s desires.
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A. It is wrong to give communion to a dog.
Why is it wrong to give common food to a dog?
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The wafer is the reality!
And Jesus says this is my body but the spiritually blind can only see a real wafer, nothing more than that. They do not discern the body and, like Paul said, every time they take communion without discerning the body they actually eat their own condemnation.
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Exactly. But we don't have faith in a symbol but a reality.
So let me get this more clear !
Is that faith catholic alone have is like the great faith that soldier had for his servant to be healed, in which Jesus said He has not seen so great faith as that??
So another words only catholic is the only church on earth who is using great faith to even move mountains and walk on water like Peter or a pope does or can and raise the dead with that same great faith you alway pracrice to use in a mass?
If this is true there should not be no problem with the test I ask any cathoic here to do to show the power with in you guys on the thread about :Proof Page for New Doctrines! 
Why taken to the test who has great faith and has the truth no one has not even started using this faith you claim you have and are using in your church, or that faith and power is only activated and seen , and work only in a catholic church and outside the doors of the church there is no powers, no anointing , and no evidence of Christ working through you and with you??
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
Edited by evangelist on 08/13/2012 01:05:30
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A. It is wrong to give communion to a dog.
Why is it wrong to give common food to a dog?
It is shown and a practice and rememberance memorial we are to do as humans and have that awareness of that truth , a dog doesn't have revelation spiritual knowledge of that truth, and a dog doesn't honor and thank God for what Jesus finished for us after His resurrection!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Also can I ask catholics here why didn't the disciples start eating Jesus at the last supper and started cutting Him up and putting His body on the table to be eaten as an example as what you guy do at a mass or eucharist??
Just curious!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Exactly. But we don't have faith in a symbol but a reality.
So let me get this more clear !
Is that faith catholic alone have is like the great faith that soldier had for his servant to be healed, in which Jesus said He has not seen so great faith as that??
So another words only catholic is the only church on earth who is using great faith to even move mountains and walk on water like Peter or a pope does or can and raise the dead with that same great faith you alway pracrice to use in a mass?
If this is true there should not be no problem with the test I ask any cathoic here to do to show the power with in you guys on the thread about :Proof Page for New Doctrines!
Why taken to the test who has great faith and has the truth no one has not even started using this faith you claim you have and are using in your church, or that faith and power is only activated and seen , and work only in a catholic church and outside the doors of the church there is no powers, no anointing , and no evidence of Christ working through you and with you??
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The faith in Jesus as Saviour by Catholics
is so great that they aren't sure that they are saved.
What a farce!
Jn 8:43-44 Why is my language not clear to you?
Because you are unable to hear what I say.
You belong to your father, the devil,
and you want to carry out your father’s desires.
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The faith in Jesus as Saviour by Catholics is so great that they aren't sure that they are saved.
What a farce!
Faith in Jesus is no guarrantee you are saved. That is a fact whether you accept it or not.
Look at what happens to those who keep saying Lord, Lord while deceiving themselves that they are already saved: Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name? Did we not drive out demons in your name? Did we not do mighty deeds in your name?' Then I will declare to them solemnly, 'I never knew you. 11 Depart from me, you evildoers.'(Matthew 7:22-23)
Now look at what Jesus says about being saved:You will be hated by all because of my name, but whoever endures to the end will be saved.(Matthew 10:22)
Compare that with what you teach and you will see you are in serious error.
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So let me get this more clear!
Is that faith catholic alone have is like the great faith that soldier had for his servant to be healed, in which Jesus said He has not seen so great faith as that??
So another words only catholic is the only church on earth who is using great faith to even move mountains and walk on water like Peter or a pope does or can and raise the dead with that same great faith you alway pracrice to use in a mass?
If this is true there should not be no problem with the test I ask any cathoic here to do to show the power with in you guys on the thread about: Proof Page for New Doctrines!
Why taken to the test who has great faith and has the truth no one has not even started using this faith you claim you have and are using in your church, or that faith and power is only activated and seen, and work only in a catholic church and outside the doors of the church there is no powers, no anointing, and no evidence of Christ working through you and with you??
It seems you are not having a good day today or someone else is using your username because we normally understand what you write but today is totally different. Can you reformulate what you a trying to say.
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It is shown and a practice and rememberance memorial we are to do as humans and have that awareness of that truth , a dog doesn't have revelation spiritual knowledge of that truth, and a dog doesn't honor and thank God for what Jesus finished for us after His resurrection!
But you said communion is common food, yet you do not want to share this common food with a dog. In other words, deep in your heart you know it is not common food. You say it is common food only to prove that Catholics are wrong, but you yourself knot it is not common food. that is why you don't give it to a dog.
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Originally posted by Kamati
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Originally posted by Conqueror
The faith in Jesus as Saviour by Catholics is so great that they aren't sure that they are saved.
What a farce!
Faith in Jesus is no guarrantee you are saved. That is a fact whether you accept it or not.
Look at what happens to those who keep saying Lord, Lord while deceiving themselves that they are already saved: Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name? Did we not drive out demons in your name? Did we not do mighty deeds in your name?' Then I will declare to them solemnly, 'I never knew you. 11 Depart from me, you evildoers.'(Matthew 7:22-23)
Now look at what Jesus says about being saved:You will be hated by all because of my name, but whoever endures to the end will be saved.(Matthew 10:22)
Compare that with what you teach and you will see you are in serious error.
Why would you want to have an guarrantee you are still a sinner not saved by grace before you die??
maybe my english has really failed me sence I've been here so long in Germany so can you tell me if the word (SAVED) is past tence or future tence?
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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