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I have spent a great deal of time studying early Christian writings, and I can not help but think (know) that the early Church was Catholic. Some people on here (namely, g4) believe that the early Church was Pentecostal (in the modern sense of the term), but I have tried more...
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Posted on 06/18/2012 at 00:25:09  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
quote:
Originally posted by baby3

Well I can prove it,the Jews were not Catholic and they had allot of churches called temples.
G4 you make it very hard for anyone to coincide with you because you say all protestants are not Christians,this is truly a lie!!!
Lets see some proof that you are the true church if you can prove it:)B3





In my country protestants aren't Christians, They are just religious like the catholics are.
No TRUE Christian would call themself protestant, They wouldn't even be linked with a protestant.
When Luther and the other first protestants came out of the evil catholic church,they were Christians, But todays protestants aren't Christians.
But like catholics, They think they are.
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Posted on 06/18/2012 at 00:28:18  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
quote:
Originally posted by michael

quote:
Originally posted by God4me

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Originally posted by michael

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Originally posted by God4me

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Originally posted by acumenCry

G4, you did not provide the evidence I requested. You simply recycled twisted excerpts from the gospel of g4 which was derived from Bible verses being taken out of context. Did you even read my post? Don't bother trying to answer me anymore. I want feedback from non-Catholic Christians, not nonsensical narcissists.





Since when has telling you what the Bible says, Been twisting it??.
WAKE UP YOU DOPEY MAN.

I didn't take the scriptures out of context, If you knew the Bible you would know that.

It is rude, selfish, immature, & un-Christian to call people "DOPEY"

Protestantism did not exist before Martin Luther. So the early Church simply could not have been Protestant Pentecostal denomination.

Logically the Catholic Church had to exist before Protestantism otherwise Protestants would have nothing to protest.

To imply that the early Church was a Protestant denomination is immature & ignorant.

Protestants need to go back & read the origin of Protestantism & the histories of their particular denominations & the men who started them.




[1]You are just as dopey as acumencry. As protestents aren't pentecostal, Most of them aren't even Christians.
In my country there is a big diffeence between Christians and protestants.

[2]The Pentecostal Church started on the day of pentecost, [Hence, Pentecostal], And it has been going ever since.

[3]I have never said the early Church was protestnt, STOP TELLING LIES, As I said, protestants aren't Christians.


As I said, You really are dopey.

I can not believe you are going to blatently be immature, rude, putting yourself above others, & un-Christian & insist on calling me & others dopey.

Are you going to insist on putting yourself above others calling me & others dopey? Or are you going to apologize?

There is no way you or any Protestant can link themselves to the early Church no matter what you redefine yourself to be.



I have already told you the protestants aren't Christians, And weren't the early Church.

All you have proved is, How dopey you are, I rest my case.
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Posted on 06/18/2012 at 00:31:09  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
quote:
Originally posted by acumenCry

G4, like it or not, you are a Protestant. So, according to you, you are not a Christian.

You sure do condemn yourself with your own rules a lot.

Truth is, Protestants are Christians. And judging by their fruits, the professing prots I know are much more Christlike than you (sadly, even most of the non-practicing ones).





Thwere you go again, TELLING LIES.
You catholics proved your not saved by the lies you tell
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Posted on 06/18/2012 at 06:05:41  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
quote:
Originally posted by God4me

quote:
Originally posted by acumenCry

G4, like it or not, you are a Protestant. So, according to you, you are not a Christian.

You sure do condemn yourself with your own rules a lot.

Truth is, Protestants are Christians. And judging by their fruits, the professing prots I know are much more Christlike than you (sadly, even most of the non-practicing ones).





Thwere you go again, TELLING LIES.
You catholics proved your not saved by the lies you tell



There you go again, condemning yourself.
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Posted on 06/18/2012 at 21:09:02  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
quote:
Originally posted by God4me

quote:
Originally posted by michael

quote:
Originally posted by God4me

quote:
Originally posted by michael

quote:
Originally posted by God4me

quote:
Originally posted by acumenCry

G4, you did not provide the evidence I requested. You simply recycled twisted excerpts from the gospel of g4 which was derived from Bible verses being taken out of context. Did you even read my post? Don't bother trying to answer me anymore. I want feedback from non-Catholic Christians, not nonsensical narcissists.





Since when has telling you what the Bible says, Been twisting it??.
WAKE UP YOU DOPEY MAN.

I didn't take the scriptures out of context, If you knew the Bible you would know that.

It is rude, selfish, immature, & un-Christian to call people "DOPEY"

Protestantism did not exist before Martin Luther. So the early Church simply could not have been Protestant Pentecostal denomination.

Logically the Catholic Church had to exist before Protestantism otherwise Protestants would have nothing to protest.

To imply that the early Church was a Protestant denomination is immature & ignorant.

Protestants need to go back & read the origin of Protestantism & the histories of their particular denominations & the men who started them.




[1]You are just as dopey as acumencry. As protestents aren't pentecostal, Most of them aren't even Christians.
In my country there is a big diffeence between Christians and protestants.

[2]The Pentecostal Church started on the day of pentecost, [Hence, Pentecostal], And it has been going ever since.

[3]I have never said the early Church was protestnt, STOP TELLING LIES, As I said, protestants aren't Christians.


As I said, You really are dopey.

I can not believe you are going to blatently be immature, rude, putting yourself above others, & un-Christian & insist on calling me & others dopey.

Are you going to insist on putting yourself above others calling me & others dopey? Or are you going to apologize?

There is no way you or any Protestant can link themselves to the early Church no matter what you redefine yourself to be.



I have already told you the protestants aren't Christians, And weren't the early Church.

All you have proved is, How dopey you are, I rest my case.

Are you going to insist on putting yourself above others calling me & others dopey? Or are you going to apologize?

There is no way you or any Protestant can link themselves to the early Church no matter what you redefine yourself to be.

God4me I can see right through you. All you are doing is trying to make some sort of link between you & the early Church when there is none by labling yourself christian with the false logic of since the names are the same both are the same as the result.

God4me it is very clear you have learned from Protestantism. I do not know who you are trying to fool.
Through bigotry prejudices false assumptions & false premises Protestants are protesting a catholic church made up by Protestantism that does not actually exist.
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Posted on 06/19/2012 at 00:20:53  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
quote:
Originally posted by michael

quote:
Originally posted by God4me

quote:
Originally posted by michael

quote:
Originally posted by God4me

quote:
Originally posted by michael

quote:
Originally posted by God4me

quote:
Originally posted by acumenCry

G4, you did not provide the evidence I requested. You simply recycled twisted excerpts from the gospel of g4 which was derived from Bible verses being taken out of context. Did you even read my post? Don't bother trying to answer me anymore. I want feedback from non-Catholic Christians, not nonsensical narcissists.





Since when has telling you what the Bible says, Been twisting it??.
WAKE UP YOU DOPEY MAN.

I didn't take the scriptures out of context, If you knew the Bible you would know that.

It is rude, selfish, immature, & un-Christian to call people "DOPEY"

Protestantism did not exist before Martin Luther. So the early Church simply could not have been Protestant Pentecostal denomination.

Logically the Catholic Church had to exist before Protestantism otherwise Protestants would have nothing to protest.

To imply that the early Church was a Protestant denomination is immature & ignorant.

Protestants need to go back & read the origin of Protestantism & the histories of their particular denominations & the men who started them.




[1]You are just as dopey as acumencry. As protestents aren't pentecostal, Most of them aren't even Christians.
In my country there is a big diffeence between Christians and protestants.

[2]The Pentecostal Church started on the day of pentecost, [Hence, Pentecostal], And it has been going ever since.

[3]I have never said the early Church was protestnt, STOP TELLING LIES, As I said, protestants aren't Christians.


As I said, You really are dopey.

I can not believe you are going to blatently be immature, rude, putting yourself above others, & un-Christian & insist on calling me & others dopey.

Are you going to insist on putting yourself above others calling me & others dopey? Or are you going to apologize?

There is no way you or any Protestant can link themselves to the early Church no matter what you redefine yourself to be.



I have already told you the protestants aren't Christians, And weren't the early Church.

All you have proved is, How dopey you are, I rest my case.

Are you going to insist on putting yourself above others calling me & others dopey? Or are you going to apologize?

There is no way you or any Protestant can link themselves to the early Church no matter what you redefine yourself to be.

God4me I can see right through you. All you are doing is trying to make some sort of link between you & the early Church when there is none by labling yourself christian with the false logic of since the names are the same both are the same as the result.

God4me it is very clear you have learned from Protestantism. I do not know who you are trying to fool.




There you go again, TELLING LIES.
Your only proving that you aren't Christians, I REST MY CASE.
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Posted on 06/19/2012 at 07:58:52  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
Is that the extent of your ability to communicate, G4Me?

You so want and need to believe that Pentecostalism did not originate out of the 1,500s.

A shame that you're unable to provide any documentation on the Early Pentecostal Church.
Edited by bwellmysoul on 06/19/2012 07:59:20
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Posted on 06/19/2012 at 07:59:13  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
quote:
Originally posted by God4me

quote:
Originally posted by michael

quote:
Originally posted by God4me

quote:
Originally posted by michael

quote:
Originally posted by God4me

quote:
Originally posted by michael

quote:
Originally posted by God4me

quote:
Originally posted by acumenCry

G4, you did not provide the evidence I requested. You simply recycled twisted excerpts from the gospel of g4 which was derived from Bible verses being taken out of context. Did you even read my post? Don't bother trying to answer me anymore. I want feedback from non-Catholic Christians, not nonsensical narcissists.





Since when has telling you what the Bible says, Been twisting it??.
WAKE UP YOU DOPEY MAN.

I didn't take the scriptures out of context, If you knew the Bible you would know that.

It is rude, selfish, immature, & un-Christian to call people "DOPEY"

Protestantism did not exist before Martin Luther. So the early Church simply could not have been Protestant Pentecostal denomination.

Logically the Catholic Church had to exist before Protestantism otherwise Protestants would have nothing to protest.

To imply that the early Church was a Protestant denomination is immature & ignorant.

Protestants need to go back & read the origin of Protestantism & the histories of their particular denominations & the men who started them.




[1]You are just as dopey as acumencry. As protestents aren't pentecostal, Most of them aren't even Christians.
In my country there is a big diffeence between Christians and protestants.

[2]The Pentecostal Church started on the day of pentecost, [Hence, Pentecostal], And it has been going ever since.

[3]I have never said the early Church was protestnt, STOP TELLING LIES, As I said, protestants aren't Christians.


As I said, You really are dopey.

I can not believe you are going to blatently be immature, rude, putting yourself above others, & un-Christian & insist on calling me & others dopey.

Are you going to insist on putting yourself above others calling me & others dopey? Or are you going to apologize?

There is no way you or any Protestant can link themselves to the early Church no matter what you redefine yourself to be.



I have already told you the protestants aren't Christians, And weren't the early Church.

All you have proved is, How dopey you are, I rest my case.

Are you going to insist on putting yourself above others calling me & others dopey? Or are you going to apologize?

There is no way you or any Protestant can link themselves to the early Church no matter what you redefine yourself to be.

God4me I can see right through you. All you are doing is trying to make some sort of link between you & the early Church when there is none by labling yourself christian with the false logic of since the names are the same both are the same as the result.

God4me it is very clear you have learned from Protestantism. I do not know who you are trying to fool.




There you go again, TELLING LIES.
Your only proving that you aren't Christians, I REST MY CASE.

Go4me who are you trying to fool it is plain as day very clear that you have learnened from Protestantism.

It is clear that you learned from Preotestant websites teachers etc.

The Bible alone is even a Protestant belief. Do you believe in the bible alone?

I was not born yesterday & im not a dope.

Are you going to apologize for calling me & others "dopey"?

Through bigotry prejudices false assumptions & false premises Protestants are protesting a catholic church made up by Protestantism that does not actually exist.
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The early church sought Jesus.
Jn 8:43-44 Why is my language not clear to you?
Because you are unable to hear what I say.
You belong to your father, the devil,
and you want to carry out your father’s desires.
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What are you implying?
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Posted on 06/20/2012 at 15:31:51  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
Christ's Church found Him, and they still have Him.

Christians should always put Christ first in their lives.
Pax et Bonum,

Faith_at_Large


"There are some in the Church, who not only do not do what is good, but even persecute it, and hate in others what they neglect to do themselves. The sin of these men is not that of infirmity or ignorance, but deliberate willful sin." — Pope St. Gregory the Great (AD 540-604)
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quote:
Originally posted by Faith_at_Large

Christ's Church found Him, and they still have Him.

Christians should always put Christ first in their lives.




Unlike the catholics, Christians do put Jesus first.
catholics put Mary and the catholics councils before Jesus.
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Correction! Catholics put everything before Jesus, claiming that have Jesus captured in a wafer.
Jn 8:43-44 Why is my language not clear to you?
Because you are unable to hear what I say.
You belong to your father, the devil,
and you want to carry out your father’s desires.
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quote:
Originally posted by Conqueror

Correction! Catholics put everything before Jesus, claiming that have Jesus captured in a wafer.



Mark 4:34

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He did not say anything to them without using a parable. But when he was alone with his own disciples, he explained everything.


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For I pass on to you what I received from the Lord himself. On the night when He was betrayed, the Lord Jesus took some bread
and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, "This is My Body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me."


Matthew 26:26

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While they were eating, Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take and eat; this is My Body."



Mark 14:22

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While they were eating, Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take it; this is My Body."
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Originally posted by Conqueror

Correction! Catholics put everything before Jesus, claiming that have Jesus captured in a wafer.



The Early Church believed in the True Presence of Christ in the Eucharist.

In fact, the reason that they assembled, was for the receiving of Christ in the bread.

http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/father/a5.html

St. Paul in Sacred Scripture writes:

quote:
"The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? Because there is one bread, we who are many are one body, for we all partake of the one bread."

-1 Cor. 10:16-17




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THE DIDACHE

The Didache or "The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles" is a manuscript which was used by 2nd century bishops and priests for the instruction of catechumens. Many early Christian writers have referenced it making this document relatively easy to date.

"Let no one eat and drink of your Eucharist but those baptized in the name of the Lord; to this, too the saying of the Lord is applicable: 'Do not give to dogs what is sacred'".

-Ch. 9:5

"On the Lord's own day, assemble in common to break bread and offer thanks; but first confess your sins, so that your sacrifice may be pure. However, no one quarreling with his brother may join your meeting until they are reconciled; your sacrifice must not be defiled. For here we have the saying of the Lord: 'In every place and time offer me a pure sacrifice; for I am a mighty King, says the Lord; and my name spreads terror among the nations.'"

-Ch 14




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Ignatius - 3rd Bishop of Antioch

Consider how contrary to the mind of God are the heterodox in regard to the grace of God which has come to us. They have no regard for charity, none for the widow, the orphan, the oppressed, none for the man in prison, the hungry or the thirsty. They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not admit that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, the flesh which suffered for our sins and which the Father, in His graciousness, raised from the dead."
"Letter to the Smyrnaeans", paragraph 6. circa 80-110 A.D.




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St. Ignatius became the third bishop of Antioch, succeeding St. Evodius, who was the immediate successor of St. Peter.

He heard St. John preach when he was a boy and knew St. Polycarp, Bishop of Smyrna.

Seven of his letters written to various Christian communities have been preserved.

Eventually, he received the martyr's crown as he was thrown to wild beasts in the arena.




http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/father/a5.html
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