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Posted on 04/02/2006 at 11:19:05  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
In 1 Cor. 6:9 it states that sodomites(homosexuals) shall not inherit the kingdom of God or in other words sodomites(homosexuals) unless they repent of their homosexual perversion will be spending eternity in the Lake of Fire(Hell). How much plainer can that be? So why more...
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Posted on 04/06/2006 at 19:06:47  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
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hey evan! saw you were trying to get me on instant messenger the other day but you were gone when i got to the computer.

so my question is what kind of idiot would even suggest such a thing as mary being a lesbian? i mean i've hear stupid things but this is dumb even for a stupid person.

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your sister? or another?

mike

It was a lesbian girl that is a lesbian elder christian.

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Posted on 04/17/2006 at 09:12:28  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
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Originally posted by Theophilus

That certainly isn't in Scripture.

I know but even infant baptism is also not in the scriptures, so I think we can"t use the bible on this either, so it is still hear say.
I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Posted on 04/17/2006 at 09:15:54  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
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Originally posted by alcovey

Good to see you again, Evan Same old, uh, sense of humor I see.

thanks! but I have learned and seen alot of new things so the old I forgot and the new facts is added to my researching in all my getting.
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Posted on 04/17/2006 at 09:18:00  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
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Originally posted by Theophilus

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Originally posted by Evangelist

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Originally posted by mikejuli

hey evan! saw you were trying to get me on instant messenger the other day but you were gone when i got to the computer.

so my question is what kind of idiot would even suggest such a thing as mary being a lesbian? i mean i've hear stupid things but this is dumb even for a stupid person.

mike



It was a lesbian girl that is a lesbian elder christian.



So, you take the word of someone who is herself a homosexual?

[sarcasm]That makes sense.[/sarcasm]

no, I am just a good listener also.
I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Posted on 04/17/2006 at 15:57:42  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
It's one thing to listen and another to think what you are listening to is true.
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Posted on 04/21/2006 at 01:22:21  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
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It's one thing to listen and another to think what you are listening to is true.

most of the time my research of the truth is shocking to me and other are just misleading and discieved.
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Posted on 04/21/2006 at 10:12:29  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
How can you tell who is misleading and deceived?

Virtually every site you link to is pretty squirrelly.

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Posted on 04/22/2006 at 03:51:17  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
All homosexual Catholics whether they are Priests or lay individuals should be excommunicated from the Catholic Church unless they renounce their homosexuality and become normal heterosexuals because the Bible makes it clear in 1 Cor. 6:9-10 that no homosexual will gain entrance into Heaven uless they renounce their homosexuality.
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Posted on 04/22/2006 at 06:39:32  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
It also says warn the heretic twice and then have nothing to do with him. How about excommunicating all who dissent with Church teaching until they repent and become normal Catholics?

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Posted on 04/22/2006 at 08:04:21  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
Well said, Allen. If, after multiple corrections one refuses to change his beliefs, we are to expel them from the community, according to the Bible.

Robert's beliefs about homosexuals is partly correct. They are called to live lives of chastity, and their orientation is no doubt a difficult burden, but they, like we, are to express their sexuality only in the manner God provided, within marriage between a man and woman where the marital act is open to life.
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Posted on 04/22/2006 at 10:16:14  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
Yes, those who blatantly follow an unrepentant homosexual lifestyle have cut themselves off from the life of God - as the Church clearly teaches. But so does the heretic. They, in effect, excommunicate themselves by their own actions.

That's what Robert needs to understand - he thinks himself in a firm position to unilaterally judge all homosexuals, when it is only one sin of many that will endanger a soul. - He who has no sin cast the first stone........
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Posted on 05/04/2006 at 05:10:42  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
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How can you tell who is misleading and deceived?

Virtually every site you link to is pretty squirrelly.

Determining truth is all about who one trusts to teach and guide them.

good point and most of religions, and sects trust someone they think should know the truth and not decieve , but mostly this how people get decieved , and mislead, not through fact and truth but throught trusting someone who is close to them or told they are to be trusted like some pope ,prsisdcent, prophets, or miknisters, and priests , parents and etc.
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Posted on 05/04/2006 at 05:39:11  |  Reply  |  Report Abuse |  0
Or disco Evangelists.
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