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Posted on 10/19/2006 at 11:12:20  |  Report Abuse |  0
I'd like an explanation from Admin as to why he deleted the entire thread. If all he was worried about were acusations of pedophilia then why not just delete the posts with those references? I resubmitted the topic with all pedophilia refereces deleted and he removed it again. So please explain to me what are the rules in regards to posts. This forum was set up to discuss cult claims. YWAM has been listed as a cult on many of the cult watch web sites. So was I wrong to put up a post about YWAM and their anti-Catholic activities? I am very much concerned that this cult is infiltrating the Catholic church. So if I said something wrong about YWAM then let's discuss that. What's the sense of having a forum if Admin is going to delete anything he doesn't agree with?
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Posted on 10/19/2006 at 11:51:29  |  Report Abuse |  0
As I explained before, accusing others of criminal behavior, especially when they're not public people, with only circumstantial evidence is not permitted. I found two people doing this with very little evidence and they are not acting with reasonable judicious restraint and Spero will not be their trashdump. People will be held accountable for what they post.
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Posted on 10/19/2006 at 12:41:57  |  Report Abuse |  0
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"Marking out" is not "promoting". He has posted pictures of young people and their rehearsal schedules and physical locations


That may be unwise, but that's about all that proves.
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while actively seeking conversations in pedophile boards.


What the hell are you talking about? What pedophile boards? (and please don't give links to them) - if you are meaning the one he linked before, that is an outrageous accusation.
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That was not MY invitation, regarding the eruption of the pedophile site here. He completely surprised me with the link to that board in an unsolicited email. I replied to his attempt to get me involved in that board with a gentle warning and a reply to his own request for an opinion, because I still thought his worst problem was lack of judgement.

Well, you should have just stuck with that last thought and we would have no issues.

But you still DO NOT GET IT. According to Pabby, as I understand him, he only pointed it out to you because it was related to cults. It was YOU who steered the discussion into the sordid and unwarranted area - absoolutely inexcusable - and you continus to do so. If I were a moderator, you would have been warned and your posts deleted.
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Why should I reveal the entire contents of our email exchange to you or anyone in this board? Pabby is the one using this board to enable youth stalkers with specific info, and that does not mean at all that it should be shut down.

Maybe he just needs to change his sig or material on his website - to be honest I've not even looked at it so I don't know what or what is not on it, but if you spin it the way you do that other site, then I would say it you who has the problem - certainly in your delivery and how you choose to frame things.
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Admin can easily ask people to use better judgement regarding access to youth groups personal info via link trails. It is his own judgement call.


Yes, precisely. It's his judgment call.
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You won't succeed in shutting down this cult board, Alcovey. It is too important to young Catholics and Protestants alike who need to understand these issues for themselves.


If it gets shut down, it will not be because of me, but rather because of the inflammatory and wreckless manner in which the topics are being addressed.

Spero has always been a very fair debate board, not a careless accusations board. Also, it is up to individual members as well as Admin to keep each other honest. I'm calling you out because you are out of line, as I would any other member.
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Posted on 10/20/2006 at 13:14:16  |  Report Abuse |  0
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Maybe he just needs to change his sig


Exactly the point.

As far as "butting heads", that is nothing but your assertion of intent to dog me the way you dogged another critic of Hahn, which happened in a thread that was not even remotely connected to Hahn and in which NO ONE except you was concerned about Hahn.

You have your own hateful agenda, Allen Covey, whatever it is, and if it includes continuing your pattern of driving people you don't like out of every thread you track them in, then you are your own problem.







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Posted on 10/20/2006 at 14:03:19  |  Report Abuse |  0
That is just bizarre. Thankfully no one will take that seriously.
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Posted on 10/20/2006 at 15:22:21  |  Report Abuse |  0
It is lies. Pure and simple.
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Posted on 10/20/2006 at 19:28:45  |  Report Abuse |  0
Does anyone else get the feeling that cult-busting is, well, cult-like? If we question them, we are part of the conspiracy. If we challenge them to provide more than innuendo or unsupported conclusions, we have some ulterior motive. In either case, we are accused of not having certain gnosis or insight into the real situation.

It makes dialogue incredibly difficult.

Objectively, one could not read the deleted thread and see that anything was accomplished other than namecalling and recriminations. I'm glad Admin deleted it. This forum need not be an avenue for calumny.
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