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Roman Catholics cannot be bothered with working out their salvation with fear and trembling. They rely on the opinion, interpretations and hallucinations of the papacy, which they piously accept without understanding.They are so confident that they are not sure of getting more... Jn 8:43-44 Why is my language not clear to you?
Because you are unable to hear what I say.
You belong to your father, the devil,
and you want to carry out your father’s desires.
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What were you set apart for?
Jn 8:43-44 Why is my language not clear to you?
Because you are unable to hear what I say.
You belong to your father, the devil,
and you want to carry out your father’s desires.
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To belong to God.
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"There are some in the Church, who not only do not do what is good, but even persecute it, and hate in others what they neglect to do themselves. The sin of these men is not that of infirmity or ignorance, but deliberate willful sin." — Pope St. Gregory the Great (AD 540-604)
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Originally posted by Conqueror
Do you rely on the media to get your information about Christians?
How sad!
Christians, who preach the gospel, have authority.
Catholics preach their own powerless gospel,
don't know Christ, but preach Mary and the papacy
and claim to have authority.
Looks like you rely on the media for your anti catholicism. You have no authority and no clue.. Your just repeating what you were told to believe about the ancient church by those rebellious sects seeking to fashion their own authority. The catholic gospel is the gospel.. The canon you have as a new testament is a catholic canon of scripture. Why would you accept that canon and then turn around and claim that same authority is false? Stupid anti Catholics never see the illogical consequences of their propaganda. Those that do start to think and do their homework always turn back to the ancient faith.
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Originally posted by Conqueror
Do you rely on the media to get your information about Christians?
How sad!
Christians, who preach the gospel, have authority.
Catholics preach their own powerless gospel,
don't know Christ, but preach Mary and the papacy
and claim to have authority.
Looks like you rely on the media for your anti catholicism. You have no authority and no clue.. Your just repeating what you were told to believe about the ancient church by those rebellious sects seeking to fashion their own authority. The catholic gospel is the gospel.. The canon you have as a new testament is a catholic canon of scripture. Why would you accept that canon and then turn around and claim that same authority is false? Stupid anti Catholics never see the illogical consequences of their propaganda. Those that do start to think and do their homework always turn back to the ancient faith.
If I accept your powerless gospel
and submit to that fool in Rome,
then I have a clue?
I started to think many years ago,
and I am no longer fooled
into needing a charlatan to present the bread-god to me
and then to deny my God-given senses
and hope to be drinking real blood.
My brains are functioning!
Jn 8:43-44 Why is my language not clear to you?
Because you are unable to hear what I say.
You belong to your father, the devil,
and you want to carry out your father’s desires.
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Our Gospel is that Jesus died for our sins and rose from the dead, and will come again. How is that powerless?
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"There are some in the Church, who not only do not do what is good, but even persecute it, and hate in others what they neglect to do themselves. The sin of these men is not that of infirmity or ignorance, but deliberate willful sin." — Pope St. Gregory the Great (AD 540-604)
Edited by Faith_at_Large on 07/01/2012 16:12:11
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If I accept your powerless gospel
and submit to that fool in Rome,
then I have a clue?
There is only one gospel silly. It didn't start with Luther or whatever sect you happen to be submitted to. As for me, I accept the ancient church and the testimony if the church through the ages.. I don't submit to a pope like you submit to a pastor, or your own petty opinions, which is even worse.. I do submit to the church which isn't just a man in Rome. Your lack of understanding about real catholic teaching and function is enough to see that you submitted to some fool and didn't take the time to see if he were correct.
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I started to think many years ago,
and I am no longer fooled
into needing a charlatan to present the bread-god to me
and then to deny my God-given senses
and hope to be drinking real blood.
My brains are functioning!
You should have Continued thinking instead of falling for anti catholic propaganda. It is Christ who offers his body and blood to the church, and he isn't a charlatan. Some use your same argument though to deny the divinity of Christ. After all, our god given senses would only see a man. It's not like you can prove from DNA that he is divine, or that a person is born again. You may respond by pointing out the I need to see with spiritual eyes what is done in the spirit about being born again, and I will say the same to you.. About the eucharist. Anyway, the real presence isn't about pretending to drink real blood. It's about drinking spiritual blood, substantial blood and substantial flesh. Not seen on the outside, but understood to be true within. Just like being born of the spirit, or being married carry sacramental grace that isn't detected in the physical, the real body and blood of Christ in the Eucharist are not in appearance but true substantially just as a man and wife dont become one flesh in appearance, but do substantially. Anyway, understanding this does require thinking which is a bit difficult for many today. The dumbed down Christian sects just want to be blessed and prosper today. They have no use for the real gospel as it doesn't make them millionaires. 
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Originally posted by Conqueror
Do you rely on the media to get your information about Christians?
How sad!
Christians, who preach the gospel, have authority.
Catholics preach their own powerless gospel,
don't know Christ, but preach Mary and the papacy
and claim to have authority.
Do you believe the Protestantism false man made doctrine of bible alone JUST like the TV meda preachers? Thats what I thought.
Protestants pejudge the Catholic Church so this powerless gospel you speak of is just a Protestantism misinterpretation of the Catholic gospel. Basicly your against the Catholic Church for a Protestantism fabricated reason that does not exist in reality.
Through bigotry prejudices false assumptions & false premises Protestants are protesting a catholic church made up by Protestantism that does not actually exist.
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I am not a protestant, so I cannot understand why you bring that up?
Do you want to talk about Leggo blocks?
Jn 8:43-44 Why is my language not clear to you?
Because you are unable to hear what I say.
You belong to your father, the devil,
and you want to carry out your father’s desires.
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You're embarrassed of the protestantisms?
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Has Conqueror even admitted to being a Christian yet? I think that he just wants Catholics to leave the Church. Period. Not actually go anywhere else.
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I think he/she wrote once about being Pentecostal.
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Pentecostals are taught to believe that they aren't a protestant denomination. (They also wrote the Bible and are the only church, blah, blah, blah.)
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I am not a protestant, so I cannot understand why you bring that up?
Do you want to talk about Leggo blocks?
Do you believe in the bible alone yes or no?
Through bigotry prejudices false assumptions & false premises Protestants are protesting a catholic church made up by Protestantism that does not actually exist.
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Bible alone (as in my personal interpretation matters more than anyone else's personal opinion).
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I missed that part about him claiming to be Pentecostal. I have been focussing on other threads and only come back to these in the breaks.
Glad to hear that he is a "Christians" of some sort. But why is it that Pentecostals show such bad fruits? So far the only ones that I have met who showed any sign of humility or gentleness were the Oneness Pentecostals. They were still anti-Catholic, but actually wanted to save me from Catholicism rather than just insult me and tell me I was going to Hell no matter what.
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"There are some in the Church, who not only do not do what is good, but even persecute it, and hate in others what they neglect to do themselves. The sin of these men is not that of infirmity or ignorance, but deliberate willful sin." — Pope St. Gregory the Great (AD 540-604)
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