The only unpardonable sin renouncing Jesus!
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I would like to start this thread specially on this topic about the only sin which send a person to hell is renouncing Jesus as thier Lord or rejection of Jesus because of unbelief and that is why sins in general is not the issue!Sinner and unbeliever are already condemned more... I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
Edited by evangelist on 07/20/2012 09:42:15
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Where is sister FAITH, I enjoy talking to her she have a lot more knowledge about the catholic society, and so far learned that renouncing Jesus is a no return or getting repentance , and it is more than any mortal sin!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Faith is taking a vacation from this forum for the next few weeks to spend time with her family. She says she may pop in from time to time.
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Faith is taking a vacation from this forum for the next few weeks to spend time with her family. She says she may pop in from time to time.
Thank you for that notice!
I miss her and I miss talking to someone who has eaten alot of catholic baby food it get interesting with her!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Catholic "baby food".
I'm looking through Scripture and can't find the virtue of ego.
Do you have that verse handy Evan?
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Catholic "baby food".
I'm looking through Scripture and can't find the virtue of ego.
Do you have that verse handy Evan?
At least I will answer you with a yes or NO!
I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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But again, you're not answering my original question.
Have you found that Bible verse in which ego is called a virtue?
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But again, you're not answering my original question.
Have you found that Bible verse in which ego is called a virtue?
NO!
I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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If you put blaspheming the Holy Ghost in it's right context, It is contributing the works of God to the devil.
I hope you meant “attributing the works of God to the devil” and that is exactly what you do when you say the Catholic Church is a creation of the devil. Every time you do that, you are blaspheming the Holy Spirit, according to your own definition; and the devil encourages you to continue doing that.
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A Christians sins are covered by the blood of Jesus, The only way we can go to hell, is by rejecting Jesus or turning away from Him.
Aha, it is actually possible to turn “away from Him” ... but that is exactly what Catholics have been saying.
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Having said that, A TRUE Christian would quickly repent if they sin.
Aha, that is exactly what Catholics believe, namely that a true Christian would quickly repent if they sin. And, according to the Bible and the Catholic Church, true repentance involves restitution and confession of sins. If you steal someone’s money, repent, give the money back to the owner and confess your sin.
I have come across hundreds of people whose testimonies include things like “I was a robber but I am now born-again” ... nothing about giving back things he robbed.
So, rob your neighbour, quickly repent but keep the money.
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Christians aren't like the catholics, Who willfully sin believing that confessing to a priest and penance will forgive their sins.
This may irritate you but the Catholic Church actually agrees with you and exhorts believers against wilful persistence in sin.
But here is your hypocrisy: if Catholics sin wilfully believing that confessing to a priest and penance will forgive their sins, then your “true Christians” can also wilfully sin believing that “quick repentance” will grant him forgiveness ... and even if forgiveness is not granted, no problem: he is already saved anyway!
The cruel part of it is that such a “true Christian” will never know which sins are forgiven and which sins are retained ... but to feel good about himself, he has to subjectively determine that all his sins are forgiven.
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A religious person can look at the bible in a merit system of legalism interpetaion based on works and performances, and take the bible out of contexts!
Conveniently, this applies only to those others, never to Evangelist! Unlike those religious people, Evangelist is righteous in his/her own eyes ... that is all that matters for now.
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An good example of doing that was how Luther wanted to take even James out the bible because he couldn't see how works and grace of unmerit favor with is based on jesus works and contradicts his understanding!
Well, well ... Luther was wrong when he tried to remove James, but right when he tried to remove Tobit, Baruch, Wisdom, Sirach, Judith, and 1 & 2 Maccabeus. I see!
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Originally posted by Kamati
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A religious person can look at the bible in a merit system of legalism interpetaion based on works and performances, and take the bible out of contexts!
Conveniently, this applies only to those others, never to Evangelist! Unlike those religious people, Evangelist is righteous in his/her own eyes ... that is all that matters for now.
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Originally posted by evangelist
An good example of doing that was how Luther wanted to take even James out the bible because he couldn't see how works and grace of unmerit favor with is based on jesus works and contradicts his understanding!
Well, well ... Luther was wrong when he tried to remove James, but right when he tried to remove Tobit, Baruch, Wisdom, Sirach, Judith, and 1 & 2 Maccabeus. I see!
I don't think Luther remove or was against to put those other catholic or religious uninspired books in the bible!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
Edited by evangelist on 08/13/2012 08:31:11
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Again this thread fit exactly with what:
1Jo:5:16: If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
1Jo:5:17: All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Originally posted by evangelist
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Originally posted by Kamati
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Originally posted by evangelist
A religious person can look at the bible in a merit system of legalism interpetaion based on works and performances, and take the bible out of contexts!
Conveniently, this applies only to those others, never to Evangelist! Unlike those religious people, Evangelist is righteous in his/her own eyes ... that is all that matters for now.
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Originally posted by evangelist
An good example of doing that was how Luther wanted to take even James out the bible because he couldn't see how works and grace of unmerit favor with is based on jesus works and contradicts his understanding!
Well, well ... Luther was wrong when he tried to remove James, but right when he tried to remove Tobit, Baruch, Wisdom, Sirach, Judith, and 1 & 2 Maccabeus. I see!
I don't think Luther remove or was against to put those other catholic or religious uninspired books in the bible!
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If you do not think Luther removed books you are extremely deceived & refuse to accept facts of history.
What Protestant denomination has the official authority to decide which books belong in the bible? Name one?
Through bigotry prejudices false assumptions & false premises Protestants are protesting a catholic church made up by Protestantism that does not actually exist.
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Originally posted by evangelist
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Originally posted by Kamati
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Originally posted by evangelist
A religious person can look at the bible in a merit system of legalism interpetaion based on works and performances, and take the bible out of contexts!
Conveniently, this applies only to those others, never to Evangelist! Unlike those religious people, Evangelist is righteous in his/her own eyes ... that is all that matters for now.
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Originally posted by evangelist
An good example of doing that was how Luther wanted to take even James out the bible because he couldn't see how works and grace of unmerit favor with is based on jesus works and contradicts his understanding!
Well, well ... Luther was wrong when he tried to remove James, but right when he tried to remove Tobit, Baruch, Wisdom, Sirach, Judith, and 1 & 2 Maccabeus. I see!
I don't think Luther remove or was against to put those other catholic or religious uninspired books in the bible!
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If you do not think Luther was against those other books then you do not really know much about the topic. You conveniently only know that Luther was wrong when he tried to remove James and you know James is inspired because it was not removed; and you know those other books are uninspired because they are not in your Bible. And you don't care how and why it is so.
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Originally posted by michael
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Originally posted by Kamati
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A religious person can look at the bible in a merit system of legalism interpetaion based on works and performances, and take the bible out of contexts!
Conveniently, this applies only to those others, never to Evangelist! Unlike those religious people, Evangelist is righteous in his/her own eyes ... that is all that matters for now.
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Originally posted by evangelist
An good example of doing that was how Luther wanted to take even James out the bible because he couldn't see how works and grace of unmerit favor with is based on jesus works and contradicts his understanding!
Well, well ... Luther was wrong when he tried to remove James, but right when he tried to remove Tobit, Baruch, Wisdom, Sirach, Judith, and 1 & 2 Maccabeus. I see!
I don't think Luther remove or was against to put those other catholic or religious uninspired books in the bible!
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If you do not think Luther removed books you are extremely deceived & refuse to accept facts of history.
What Protestant denomination has the official authority to decide which books belong in the bible? Name one?
JEWS!
Maybe not because I think the Catholic church came before the Jew and Israel.
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
Edited by evangelist on 08/14/2012 02:56:52
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Luther used the Jews as a reason to throw out multiple books from the Old Testament (and he wasn't going to stop there - he also wanted the same action for Hebrews, James, Revelation and Jude).
A fair person has to wonder if Luther was fully aware that it took over 250 Bishops - consolidated from all around the Mediterranean - to agree to that canon.
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