Heretic doctrine a christian is still a sinner
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Faith: claim that she is still a sinner saved by grace is the nost dogmatic satanic falsh claim ever believed!We were a sinner and we are the righteousness saved by grace and a son or daughter saved by grace with faith is the right biblical and christian ührace or more... I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
Edited by evangelist on 07/09/2012 11:32:12
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I am already born again. There is no need to do this twice. In fact, it is impossible.
We serve whom we obey - God or sin. And if we serve sin, by extension we serve Satan.
I do not serve sin. I serve God. I obey God. And if I stumble, I go boldly before the Throne of God and seek absolution, just as the Bible tells me to.
You are the one who says to ignore sin because it is not an issue. You are the one who serves sin on hand and knees, refusing to repent and telling others to do likewise.
That is the great deception spoken of in the Bible and you have fallen for it, hook line and sinker.
But I still have hope for you because I know that God is still at work in you, but you have to cooperate before you are dead to His call.
When Jesus died on the cross
he removed the state of sin away from us
as far the east is for the west
We became new creations and were given a new heart,
justified and acceptable to the Father
We don't want to sin, but sometimes we do
but we know that these sins are covered.
We actually have the faith to believe!
AMEN!
Shalom 
I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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You have faith in a man-made doctrine developed in the 1500s.
Not in the faith of absolution that Christ established in His Apostolic Church, as detailed in Sacred Scripture.
The man-made doctines of the 1500s effectively gutted God's grace from Baptism (now only a symbol), Communion (now only a symbol), Confirmation in the Holy Spirit (now only a symbol), Reconciliation (unneccessary - you're not responsible for repenting of your own sins), etc.
Edited by bwellmysoul on 08/07/2012 07:48:17
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BS when you have done any sin and have not repent of that sin yet, are you at that moment a sinner again until you have repented of that new sin?
YES or NO??
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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If I, a Baptised and Confirmed Christian Catholic commit a sin mortal (able to kill)the salvation of my soul and I am unrepentant of that action, then I am outside of Christ and His Church.
In the same way that the man having sex with with his step-mother was physically to be placed outside of the Church and given over to Satan (St. Paul's words).
What is it in the protestantisms?
You say that you are Bible Alone, and yet when Christ and the Apostles give you pointed indictations of mortal sin (and even supply you with a list) and their consequences to your soul's eternity, you dare to settle back and refuse to believe that Christ means what He said?
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... when you have done any sin and have not repent of that sin yet, are you at that moment a sinner again until you have repented of that new sin?
How do the protestantisms teach morality through the Commandments when they will not acknowledge their validity?
There's a word for that, relativism.
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BS when you have done any sin and have not repent of that sin yet, are you at that moment a sinner again until you have repented of that new sin?
YES or NO??
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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BS when you have done any sin and have not repent of that sin yet, are you at that moment a sinner again until you have repented of that new sin?
YES or NO??
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Hello?
Did you read what I wrote about the man having sex with his stepmother and what St. Paul told the Church to do to him?
Have you read that chapter?
Unrepentant, uncontrite, willfull commission of sin mortal to the eternity of one's soul.
By your definition (your one mortal sin) having sex with your stepmother isn't even a mortal sin.
What exactly - do you think of St. Paul's words to the Church concerning this man?
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BS when you have done any sin and have not repent of that sin yet, are you at that moment a sinner again until you have repented of that new sin?
YES or NO??
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Evan. Just listen to yourself. If you sin then your a sinner... Because you sinned! End of story. If you sin you need to repent. Unless your pride gets in the way this isn't really a big deal. IF your gonna make excuses and continue in sin and avoid repentance then your probably not really saved to begin with. There is nowhere in the bible that says that you don't need to repent and seek forgiveness. Paul even excommunicated a person from the church for sin. So it is for real. Christ however did pay for all our sins, which is why we can repent and seek forgiveness, without the fear and pride that imprison you.
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BS when you have done any sin and have not repent of that sin yet, are you at that moment a sinner again until you have repented of that new sin?
YES or NO??
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Which one yes or NO!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Originally posted by evangelist
BS when you have done any sin and have not repent of that sin yet, are you at that moment a sinner again until you have repented of that new sin?
YES or NO??
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Evan. Just listen to yourself. If you sin then your a sinner... Because you sinned! End of story. If you sin you need to repent. Unless your pride gets in the way this isn't really a big deal. IF your gonna make excuses and continue in sin and avoid repentance then your probably not really saved to begin with. There is nowhere in the bible that says that you don't need to repent and seek forgiveness. Paul even excommunicated a person from the church for sin. So it is for real. Christ however did pay for all our sins, which is why we can repent and seek forgiveness, without the fear and pride that imprison you.
So your answer is obviously a big yes Mike!
Thank you for being honest Mike, I hope BS can do the same one day!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
Edited by evangelist on 08/13/2012 04:16:10
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So Evangelist, yes or no.
Sex with a stepmother - mortal to the soul?
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So Evangelist, yes or no.
Sex with a stepmother - mortal to the soul?
All sins are dangerious, but only unbelief in Christ killes!
to a born again spirit I would say no!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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How much of a believer in Christ is a man who has unrepentant sex with his stepmother?
This is where "works" are required.
Talk the talk and walk the walk.
At what mental and physical point do you ever believe that a person is expressing unbelief in Christ and the indwelling Holy Spirit?
Yes, all sin is dangerous.
Venial sin can and does lead people into mortal sin.
But not always.
And no. There are sins that kill the soul. They are mortal.
Scripture explains this, time and time again.
Independent of what you may think about your "born again spirit" creation hypothesis.
I've quoted multiple verses and you obstinately refuse to acknowledge that those passages exist.
By the way, if St. Paul was OSAS with only one mortal sin, he would never have required that the Church throw that man to Satan.
Never.
Yet, he did.
In open disapproval of your OSAS-minus-that-one-sin "born again spirit" creation hypothesis.
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Originally posted by bwellmysoul
How much of a believer in Christ is a man who has unrepentant sex with his stepmother?
This is where "works" are required.
Talk the talk and walk the walk.
At what mental and physical point do you ever believe that a person is expressing unbelief in Christ and the indwelling Holy Spirit?
Yes, all sin is dangerous.
Venial sin can and does lead people into mortal sin.
But not always.
And no. There are sins that kill the soul. They are mortal.
Scripture explains this, time and time again.
Independent of what you may think about your "born again spirit" creation hypothesis.
I've quoted multiple verses and you obstinately refuse to acknowledge that those passages exist.
By the way, if St. Paul was OSAS with only one mortal sin, he would never have required that the Church throw that man to Satan.
Never.
Yet, he did.
In open disapproval of your OSAS-minus-that-one-sin "born again spirit" creation hypothesis.
I think to make more biblical sense is to put this into what you have posted about the sins which are sin of not doing what we should which does not kill!
Jas:4:17: Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
this goes in harmony with :
1Jo:5:16: If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death.
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Those two paragraphs add to multiple other paragraphs - describing sins that are venial and sins that are mortal.
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Those two paragraphs add to multiple other paragraphs - describing sins that are venial and sins that are mortal.
All sins is unclean before God!
All righteousness is justified before God!
http://mediasuite.multicastmedia.com/player.php?v=oqu0ai10
please in the name of Jesus and all the churches listen to all this message to the body of Christ in whole!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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