heretic catholic purgatory exposed
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What does the Bible say about Purgatory?"Answer: According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, Purgatory is “a place or condition of temporal punishment for those who, departing this life in God's grace, are not entirely free from venial faults, or have not fully paid the more... I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Which Jesus are you asking about Evan?
Your "Old Testament" Jesus or the "New Testament" Jesus?
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Which Jesus are you asking about Evan?
Your "Old Testament" Jesus or the "New Testament" Jesus?
Again does a righteous, just holy saint and sister or child of God go to a purgatory???
YES or NO??
Maybe so you will answer this as yes or No question in which I have asked first , is to ask yourself was Jesus righteous, and did Jesus need to get His sins washed or clean in a purgatory??
Yes or NO?
I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Evangelist,
Christ Our Saviour - His parables... are they "Old Testament" or "New Testament"?
Edited by bwellmysoul on 08/14/2012 13:32:31
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Evangelist,
Christ Our Saviour - His parables... are they "Old Testament" or "New Testament"?
I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Are the lessons Christ taught in the parables for the Jews or are they for Christians too?
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Are the lessons Christ taught in the parables for the Jews or are they for Christians too?
They are for both but in contexts more understood by those who are saved now and not sinners!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Right, your "born again spirit" creation that can not sin because the Holy Spirit sprayed it with sealant and whatever sins you commit (both venial and mortal) bounce off of that 3rd-person-removed-creation like bugs hitting a window screen.
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Right, your "born again spirit" creation that can not sin because the Holy Spirit sprayed it with sealant and whatever sins you commit (both venial and mortal) bounce off of that 3rd-person-removed-creation like bugs hitting a window screen.
AMEN!
Because a righteous person doesn't go to a purgatory unless you believe Jesus had to go to a purgatory to get His righteousness!
But the gospel truth is that we have Jesus righteousness!
2 Cor 5:21
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Let, me guess. More Creflo Dollar?
Taking you as an example. You call yourself righteous.
And you have written, that a righteous man can have sex with his stepmother and continue to remain righteous before God.
In addition, you think that Paul was immersed in his old churchy and that he was wrong when he required the Church to excommunicate the Christian who was having sex with his stepmother.
Evangelist, your hypothesis of Christ has been formed on your conscience.
Your conscience is in error, and so is your hypothesis about Christ.
At your death, your errors will need to be corrected, and you will be made to see how your errors affected the lives of other people.
That is purgation.
Edited by bwellmysoul on 08/17/2012 08:02:05
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Let, me guess. More Creflo Dollar?
Taking you as an example. You call yourself righteous.
And you have written, that a righteous man can have sex with his stepmother and continue to remain righteous before God.
In addition, you think that Paul was immersed in his old churchy and that he was wrong when he required the Church to excommunicate the Christian who was having sex with his stepmother.
Evangelist, your hypothesis of Christ has been formed on your conscience.
Your conscience is in error, and so is your hypothesis about Christ.
At your death, your errors will need to be corrected, and you will be made to see how your errors affected the lives of other people.
That is purgation.
A righteous man doeasn't desire to do any unclean unritghteous sex or lust of the mind and the body follows!
http://mediasuite.multicastmedia.com/player.php?v=px53jf5c
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Let, me guess. More Creflo Dollar?
Taking you as an example. You call yourself righteous.
And you have written, that a righteous man can have sex with his stepmother and continue to remain righteous before God.
In addition, you think that Paul was immersed in his old churchy and that he was wrong when he required the Church to excommunicate the Christian who was having sex with his stepmother.
Evangelist, your hypothesis of Christ has been formed on your conscience.
Your conscience is in error, and so is your hypothesis about Christ.
At your death, your errors will need to be corrected, and you will be made to see how your errors affected the lives of other people.
That is purgation.
A righteous man doeasn't desire to do any unclean unritghteous sex or lust of the mind and the body follows!
http://mediasuite.multicastmedia.com/player.php?v=px53jf5c
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Either Evangelist enjoys contradicting himself or an evil spirit has impaired his ability to detect contradictions.
He says "A righteous man doeasn't desire to do any unclean unritghteous sex or lust of the mind and the body follows", but a few days ago he said although he is saved and born again he continues to sin with his body and his mind, only his spirit is unable to sin. That contradicts what he said here.
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Let, me guess. More Creflo Dollar?
Taking you as an example. You call yourself righteous.
And you have written, that a righteous man can have sex with his stepmother and continue to remain righteous before God.
In addition, you think that Paul was immersed in his old churchy and that he was wrong when he required the Church to excommunicate the Christian who was having sex with his stepmother.
Evangelist, your hypothesis of Christ has been formed on your conscience.
Your conscience is in error, and so is your hypothesis about Christ.
At your death, your errors will need to be corrected, and you will be made to see how your errors affected the lives of other people.
That is purgation.
A righteous man doeasn't desire to do any unclean unritghteous sex or lust of the mind and the body follows!
http://mediasuite.multicastmedia.com/player.php?v=px53jf5c
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Either Evangelist enjoys contradicting himself or an evil spirit has impaired his ability to detect contradictions.
He says "A righteous man doeasn't desire to do any unclean unritghteous sex or lust of the mind and the body follows", but a few days ago he said although he is saved and born again he continues to sin with his body and his mind, only his spirit is unable to sin. That contradicts what he said here.
you still keep taking who we are out of contexts and the righteous man before God is righteous and not a sinner like you, also Paul explain this very clearly in romans in which you reject so it would sound contradictory, but Faith has a better view of the trith than you have , so maybe ask faith when she come back to be ablre to explain what I mean in a catholic understanding and in a way a catholic unsaved sinner can see the truth!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
Edited by evangelist on 08/21/2012 09:06:44
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...and not a sinner like you....
EvantigelChrist,
The Resurrected Christ gave His authority to forgive sins, to His Apostolic Church. You can call me a sinner, I don't mind. I know I have access to the biblical way in which mortal sin is forgiven.
The protestantisms have allowed you to make yourself "self" righteous, and have allowed you to reduce mortal sins down to one, to ensure yourself of your own salvation.
Not hard to see through, you're doing what you must...outside of Christ's Church.
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...and not a sinner like you....
EvantigelChrist,
The Resurrected Christ gave His authority to forgive sins, to His Apostolic Church. You can call me a sinner, I don't mind. I know I have access to the biblical way in which mortal sin is forgiven.
The protestantisms have allowed you to make yourself "self" righteous, and have allowed you to reduce mortal sins down to one, to ensure yourself of your own salvation.
Not hard to see through, you're doing what you must...outside of Christ's Church.
How is any of your sins forgiven if you are not born again and saved now?
If what you are saying was in anyway true, ever time a person sin without being a child of God would be another way to be self righteous without Jesus blood or the cross on thier own.
Is that your way of repentance making light of the cross?
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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And...it's you who decides who is "born again saved"?
Nondenominational "born again saved" sinless preacher who has formulated a man-made way in which he believes he can save himself, independent of what Christ instituted with His Church.
It is you who "makes light of the cross" when you continually make light of conversion from sin...your 3rd person removed entity that can not sin - and sin doesn't matter anyway because in your mind Christ forgave all sin (past, present and future) 2,000 years ago.
How convenient. No soul goes to hell and Christ doesn't have to bother judging anyone's actions and behaviors.
How convenient for you as well - to never have to preach about ethics or morality or to ever have to stand up for Christian ideals.
Edited by bwellmysoul on 08/21/2012 10:12:50
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