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Charles Haddon SpurgeonWhat do catholic think about him?CHARLES SPURGEON: THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE MASTERPIECE OF SATAN AND THE QUEEN OF more... I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
Edited by evangelist on 07/26/2012 08:21:31
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I wouldn't make a pope any better than you Mike and a pope is just another man made catholic alone posiition in your catholic vatican!
How I see a pope is just no different than any other catholic, just a man with some halloween costume with a stick in his hand and saying nothing but blah blah blah in the name of your church!
To me I think Faith and you are more convincing of some truth than your pope!
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You see the pope the way you were taught to Evan. And you have failed to break free of the stereotypes and conspiraciies you are dependent on. We Catholics see the pope simply as a pastor. Sure he wears strange and traditional clothes, but to me I think wearing a suit is silly. I like the robes, I've always been more afraid of the men wearing suits, and such. Benny Hill is downright ridiculous looking, eve before he starts to flap his heretical lips. What may even be worse than even that is watching an amateur televangelist get spanked on his own program by a Jesus Myther. Thanks but I'll stick with the pope..
I remember walking into a bible chapel one time in blue jeans and a jean jacket.. Everyone was wearing suits there and boy did I feel like a duck out of water. Never felt that way at a catholic church.
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I wouldn't make a pope any better than you Mike and a pope is just another man made catholic alone posiition in your catholic vatican!
How I see a pope is just no different than any other catholic, just a man with some halloween costume with a stick in his hand and saying nothing but blah blah blah in the name of your church!
To me I think Faith and you are more convincing of some truth than your pope!
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You see the pope the way you were taught to Evan. And you have failed to break free of the stereotypes and conspiraciies you are dependent on. We Catholics see the pope simply as a pastor. Sure he wears strange and traditional clothes, but to me I think wearing a suit is silly. I like the robes, I've always been more afraid of the men wearing suits, and such. Benny Hill is downright ridiculous looking, eve before he starts to flap his heretical lips. What may even be worse than even that is watching an amateur televangelist get spanked on his own program by a Jesus Myther. Thanks but I'll stick with the pope..
I remember walking into a bible chapel one time in blue jeans and a jean jacket.. Everyone was wearing suits there and boy did I feel like a duck out of water. Never felt that way at a catholic church.
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So do you wear a pope like costume when you go to your mass?
You also fail to break free from religion and religious philosophy, but each their own!
I rather follow Christ and be free as a bird not to please other or worry about what they think , but how to know how God feels about me and so love me as His beloved child!
everyone has their own style, and I even know some motor cycle christians who go to church in leather jackets and leather pants, and they are full of tatoos but they love Christ.
I seen many religious women wear dress so long that it drags on the floor and never wear make up or lip sticks, and are dead as people in a grave yard!
It funny when people get burried in their coffin, they all have on their best cloth, even though they don't need none.
Christ has no respect of person praise the Lord, and that is why a benny Hinn or a pope apostle is no different than any of us most beloeved children of God!
Most people see are taught so many unbeifs and tradition, that it has stop so much of the powers and will of God, with many thank to media , radio and internet full of prono, hate and selffishness, and pride.
Thank God no one is the same, and God loves our differences, just we have been brain washed from childhood to be malipulated from what society teaches even starting at home with our parents teaching us so many wrong things out of lack of knowledge, and teaching our kids to be like the majority.
I remember my mom saying anything as such outside the majority is false, so I can see why the pope and the catholic church would be so judged as a sect of it own with so many traditions and old custumes from ancient times!
I am suprise the pope doesn't ride on a donkey to nations to nation to follow the traditions of Jesus times.
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Evangelist,
It boils down to authority, given by Christ to His Church. And, with that authority the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
Either you accept that reality, or you reject it.
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Evangelist,
It boils down to authority, given by Christ to His Church. And, with that authority the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
Either you accept that reality, or you reject it.
who id the church?
I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Evangelist,
It boils down to authority, given by Christ to His Church. And, with that authority the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
Either you accept that reality, or you reject it.
the church is us!
I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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No, denominations include our separated brethren.
Christ established One Church. There is One Truth.
If "Bible Alone" was One Truth why have 45,000 denominations been incapable of determining that One Truth over 512 years?
John acknowledges Baptised "anti-Christs", in the 1st Century.
There are main-line denominations today who revision Truth to bless abortion, who place women's choice above innocent human life, who bless homosexual sex acts and their homosexual "marriages'.
Denominations who place their desire for contraception & abortifacients above the God given right to practice religion free of any governments'control.
Is that Christ's 'church'? Is that Christ's Truth?
Edited by bwellmysoul on 08/08/2012 09:12:02
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No, denominations include our separated brethren.
Christ established One Church. There is One Truth.
If "Bible Alone" was One Truth why have 45,000 denominations been incapable of determining that One Truth over 512 years?
John acknowledges Baptised "anti-Christs", in the 1st Century.
There are main-line denominations today who revision Truth to bless abortion, who place women's choice above innocent human life, who bless homosexual sex acts and their homosexual "marriages'.
Denominations who place their desire for contraception & abortifacients above the God given right to practice religion free of any governments'control.
Is that Christ's 'church'? Is that Christ's Truth?
The real church is the body of Christ which is us the believers!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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"The real church is the body of Christ which is us the believers."
No...it isn't.
"Real church" is one specific Church, really.
Matthew 16:17
"Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by My Father in heaven.
Matthew 16:18
And I tell you that you are Cephas (Peter) and on this rock I will build My Church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
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P.S. The "Gates of Hades" push against every body of believers and in many present day denominations, they are in the act of being "overcome".
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"The real church is the body of Christ which is us the believers."
No...it isn't.
"Real church" is one specific Church, really.
Matthew 16:17
"Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by My Father in heaven.
Matthew 16:18
And I tell you that you are Cephas (Peter) and on this rock I will build My Church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
The CC has thier own meaning of a church and has changed the meaning to a vatican alone definition!
The English word "church" found in the New Testament is used to translate the Greek word "ekklesiai" which in general can refer to any assembly of people. When used in the New Testament to refer to believers the term "ekklesiai" refers to that group or assembly of people who belong to God as a result of being redeemed from sin through the death of Jesus Christ.
The purpose of this section "The Local Church" is to highlight the importance of the local church for the believer who needs to grow in the faith and for the non-believer who is seeking to know God and understand the truth.
THE BODY OF CHRIST
When describing the exalted position of Jesus the apostle Paul explained that the church was the "body of Christ" with Jesus as it's "head".
(Ephesians 1:22-23) And He put all things in subjection under His feet, and gave Him as head over all things to the church, {23} which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.
This description emphasizes the relationship that each Christian and local church has to Jesus. The church is a living organism consisting of people related to a living Savior Jesus Christ who rules over them and works through them from His place in heaven. Those who wish to draw closer to Jesus Christ and experience His working in their lives will want to come into association with a local church connected to Him by faith.
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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The only "assembly" for 1,500 years prior to Luther was Catholic.
The Catholic and Orthodox "schism" occured in 1054 A.D.
Luther was an excommunicated Catholic priest.
All the "Reformers" were heretic Catholics.
Edited by bwellmysoul on 08/14/2012 12:51:56
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Yes, having read many of Spurgeon's sermons, I can tell you that at times he liked to make statements intended to arouse strong emotions. I wouldn't have made the statement he did about the RCC.
Having said that, I do find it ironic that Evan has quoted Spurgeon here given the fact that Spurgeon's views are vastly different from his and that Spurgeon made many statements which would highly offend him.
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Yes, having read many of Spurgeon's sermons, I can tell you that at times he liked to make statements intended to arouse strong emotions. I wouldn't have made the statement he did about the RCC.
Having said that, I do find it ironic that Evan has quoted Spurgeon here given the fact that Spurgeon's views are vastly different from his and that Spurgeon made many statements which would highly offend him.
What statement was that he made ahainst the CC?
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Yes, having read many of Spurgeon's sermons, I can tell you that at times he liked to make statements intended to arouse strong emotions. I wouldn't have made the statement he did about the RCC.
Having said that, I do find it ironic that Evan has quoted Spurgeon here given the fact that Spurgeon's views are vastly different from his and that Spurgeon made many statements which would highly offend him.
What statement was that he made ahainst the CC?
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I was referring to the one you quoted from the apprising ministries web-site, which was quoting Spurgeon's sermon #1156 entitled "Rubbish" and used as its key text Nehemiah 4:10. I don't think it's helpful to any kind of legitimate discussion.
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Yes, having read many of Spurgeon's sermons, I can tell you that at times he liked to make statements intended to arouse strong emotions. I wouldn't have made the statement he did about the RCC.
Having said that, I do find it ironic that Evan has quoted Spurgeon here given the fact that Spurgeon's views are vastly different from his and that Spurgeon made many statements which would highly offend him.
What statement was that he made ahainst the CC?
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I was referring to the one you quoted from the apprising ministries web-site, which was quoting Spurgeon's sermon #1156 entitled "Rubbish" and used as its key text Nehemiah 4:10. I don't think it's helpful to any kind of legitimate discussion.
OK! thanks REV!
Shalom
I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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