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OK If revelations is for the latter days like most people think then who are these churches today and what one is your church? There are seven spirits that go to thee churches and Jesus is telling the story of what he finds in these churches he does not like if anyone can more...
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No. Mad - like the multitudes of protestant Rapture theories.
The Catholic Church is 2,000 years old.
She doesn't preach Rapture theories from the 1800's.
[1]How dare you call God's word, "Mad".
[2]The catholics are 1.400 years old, Remember They weren't formed until at leat 300--600 years later.
[3]I know the catholics don't teach the pre-trib rapture, You don't teach anything in the Bible.
[4]God inspired His prophets to teach the rapture, And it is recorded in the Bible, So how could it have started in the 1800's??.
All you have proved is, You don't know the Bible or your church history.
I didn't call God's word "Mad", I called the multiple of Rapture theories developed since 1830 insane.
Repentant Christians, confirmed in Baptism and the Holy Spirit, do not need scare tactics and should not use "Rapture" theories of the End Times to increase attendance.
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quote: Originally posted by bwellmysoul
quote: Originally posted by God4me
quote: Originally posted by bwellmysoul
No. Mad - like the multitudes of protestant Rapture theories.
The Catholic Church is 2,000 years old.
She doesn't preach Rapture theories from the 1800's.
[1]How dare you call God's word, "Mad".
[2]The catholics are 1.400 years old, Remember They weren't formed until at leat 300--600 years later.
[3]I know the catholics don't teach the pre-trib rapture, You don't teach anything in the Bible.
[4]God inspired His prophets to teach the rapture, And it is recorded in the Bible, So how could it have started in the 1800's??.
All you have proved is, You don't know the Bible or your church history.
I didn't call God's word "Mad", I called the multiple of Rapture theories developed since 1830 insane.
Repentant Christians, confirmed in Baptism and the Holy Spirit, do not need scare tactics and should not use "Rapture" theories of the End Times to increase attendance.
You either don't know the Bible, Or you are calling God's word, "Mad"... Which one is it??.
[1]The Bible teaches seven raptures, And God inspired the Prophets to write them in the Bible way way before the 1800's GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.
The rapture is the blessed assurance for the Christians, Not a teaching that scares people.
You should be afraid as you'll be going through the terrible tribulation.
[2]Confirmation is in Neither baptism or the Holy Spirit. And baptism doesn't save, [Even if it did, catholics aren't baptised the right way, So their not saved].
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I'm talking about protestant interpretation of the Book of Revelation.
How many end of the world dates will the various protestantisms see come and go?
It doesn't take your modern day "prophets" to figure out what happens when governments allow kooks to develop nukes.
The only date that any of us need to care about is our own personal day of judgement. Which happens upon the day of our death.
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P.S. Thank you for acknowledging that Catholics are Baptised the "right way".
Are you aware of the three types of "they're, their and there" in sentence structure?
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quote: Originally posted by bwellmysoul
I'm talking about protestant interpretation of the Book of Revelation.
How many end of the world dates will the various protestantisms see come and go?
It doesn't take your modern day "prophets" to figure out what happens when governments allow kooks to develop nukes.
The only date that any of us need to care about is our own personal day of judgement. Which happens upon the day of our death.
You keep getting protestants mixed up with born again Christians.
You are mixing the end of the world timers with the TRUE Christian people who believe the pre-trib rapture.
Those who know the Bible, Know that no one will know when Jesus is coming back. So how can one put a date on it??. Which proves the pre-trib rapture, Because if the Church was to go through the tribulation, We will know exactly how long we'll have. And Christians don't put dates on the end of the world.
It just proves that you don't know the Bible or the Christians beliefs.
Where does the Bible say judgment happends at death. At death, The Christians go straight to heaven, 2 Cor 5: 1--8. Phil 1: 21--23. And the catholics go straight to hell until judgment day.
The Christians don't have a judgment day for their sins, Jesus has already taken our judgment.
catholics will be raised up from hell and judged for their sins, Then cast into the lack of fire.

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quote: Originally posted by bwellmysoul
P.S. Thank you for acknowledging that Catholics are Baptised the "right way".
Are you aware of the three types of "they're, their and there" in sentence structure?
Professor of Linguistics and Bible Studies.
If you read my post, You'll see catholics aren't baptised the right way.
And you know very well that most catholics aren't baptised, So according to catholics, Their not saved. [Your not saved anyway].
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quote: Originally posted by God4me
You keep getting protestants mixed up with born again Christians.
You are mixing the end of the world timers with the TRUE Christian people who believe the pre-trib rapture.
Those who know the Bible, Know that no one will know when Jesus is coming back. So how can one put a date on it??. Which proves the pre-trib rapture, Because if the Church was to go through the tribulation, We will know exactly how long we'll have. And Christians don't put dates on the end of the world.
It just proves that you don't know the Bible or the Christians beliefs.
Where does the Bible say judgment happends at death. At death, The Christians go straight to heaven, 2 Cor 5: 1--8. Phil 1: 21--23. And the catholics go straight to hell until judgment day.
The Christians don't have a judgment day for their sins, Jesus has already taken our judgment.
catholics will be raised up from hell and judged for their sins, Then cast into the lack of fire.
Understandable, your wanting distance from the numberous forms of protestantisms.
Interesting really, as well.
Is it just the 'catholics' you send to hell?
Are there people in the various forms of protestantisms whom you also send to hell?
All of them?
Some are saved? And if so, which ones?
Only Pentecostalism is saved?
Surely thou, what about your Oneness Penecostals, are they saved?
And those who don't oppose homosexual acts, do you send those to hell?
Edited by bwellmysoul on 06/07/2012 11:12:39
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quote: Originally posted by God4me
quote: Originally posted by bwellmysoul
P.S. Thank you for acknowledging that Catholics are Baptised the "right way".
Are you aware of the three types of "they're, their and there" in sentence structure?
Professor of Linguistics and Bible Studies.
If you read my post, You'll see catholics aren't baptised the right way.
And you know very well that most catholics aren't baptised, So according to catholics, Their not saved. [Your not saved anyway].
Right, because 'catholics' don't use deep enough water.
I remember your long dissertation concerning that point.
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quote: Originally posted by God4me Those who know the Bible, Know that no one will know when Jesus is coming back. So how can one put a date on it??.
Very catholic statement.
Which proves the pre-trib rapture, Because if the Church was to go through the tribulation, We will know exactly how long we'll have.
You're off in the weeds there.
And Christians don't put dates on the end of the world.
Oh, plenty have and do, falling for the Rapture trap theories. You aren't aware of the lastest?
It just proves that you don't know the Bible or the Christians beliefs.
What?
Where does the Bible say judgment happends at death. At death, The Christians go straight to heaven, 2 Cor 5: 1--8. Phil 1: 21--23.
You mean only the Pentecostals, or maybe some Pentecostals?
And the catholics go straight to hell until judgment day.
So... you do believe that there are 2 judgements. How very catholic an idea. Do you only realize the errors in your theology when other people point them out to you?
The Christians don't have a judgment day for their sins, Jesus has already taken our judgment.
That's very protestant thinking, and yet... you say you're different than those protestantisms.
catholics will be raised up from hell and judged for their sins, Then cast into the lack of fire.
I've heard your pronouncement mulitple times. [/quote]
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quote: Originally posted by God4me
You keep getting protestants mixed up with born again Christians.
You are mixing the end of the world timers with the TRUE Christian people who believe the pre-trib rapture.
Those who know the Bible, Know that no one will know when Jesus is coming back. So how can one put a date on it??. Which proves the pre-trib rapture, Because if the Church was to go through the tribulation, We will know exactly how long we'll have. And Christians don't put dates on the end of the world.
It just proves that you don't know the Bible or the Christians beliefs.
Where does the Bible say judgment happends at death. At death, The Christians go straight to heaven, 2 Cor 5: 1--8. Phil 1: 21--23. And the catholics go straight to hell until judgment day.
The Christians don't have a judgment day for their sins, Jesus has already taken our judgment.
catholics will be raised up from hell and judged for their sins, Then cast into the lack of fire.
Understandable, your wanting distance from the numberous forms of protestantisms.
Interesting really, as well.
Is it just the 'catholics' you send to hell?
Are there people in the various forms of protestantisms whom you also send to hell?
All of them?
Some are saved? And if so, which ones?
Only Pentecostalism is saved?
Surely thou, what about your Oneness Penecostals, are they saved?
And those who don't oppose homosexual acts, do you send those to hell?
Protestants aren't Christians are like the catholics are going to hell.
There is only One Church, And that is the born again Christians.
catholics don't oppose homosexual acts, Doubt_at_large siad there are gays in the catholic church, Plus, It is a well known fact.

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quote: Originally posted by bwellmysoul
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P.S. Thank you for acknowledging that Catholics are Baptised the "right way".
Are you aware of the three types of "they're, their and there" in sentence structure?
Professor of Linguistics and Bible Studies.
If you read my post, You'll see catholics aren't baptised the right way.
And you know very well that most catholics aren't baptised, So according to catholics, Their not saved. [Your not saved anyway].
Right, because 'catholics' don't use deep enough water.
I remember your long dissertation concerning that point.
Then you will know that there is only one way to be baptised, And that is the Biblical way. Which proved that most catholics aren't baptised.
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quote: Originally posted by bwellmysoul
quote: Originally posted by God4me Those who know the Bible, Know that no one will know when Jesus is coming back. So how can one put a date on it??.
Very catholic statement.
Which proves the pre-trib rapture, Because if the Church was to go through the tribulation, We will know exactly how long we'll have.
You're off in the weeds there.
And Christians don't put dates on the end of the world.
Oh, plenty have and do, falling for the Rapture trap theories. You aren't aware of the lastest?
It just proves that you don't know the Bible or the Christians beliefs.
What?
Where does the Bible say judgment happends at death. At death, The Christians go straight to heaven, 2 Cor 5: 1--8. Phil 1: 21--23.
You mean only the Pentecostals, or maybe some Pentecostals?
And the catholics go straight to hell until judgment day.
So... you do believe that there are 2 judgements. How very catholic an idea. Do you only realize the errors in your theology when other people point them out to you?
The Christians don't have a judgment day for their sins, Jesus has already taken our judgment.
That's very protestant thinking, and yet... you say you're different than those protestantisms.
catholics will be raised up from hell and judged for their sins, Then cast into the lack of fire.
I've heard your pronouncement mulitple times.
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[1]Did Jesus, Or did He not say no one will know when He is coming??. Which proves the pre-trib rapture. TRUE Christians never put a date on Jesus coming, Because we don't know.
REMEMBER, You believe the pope's porkies and the catholic con-men rather than the Bible.
[2]There are no errors in my theology, Because I teach what the Bible says, And there is no errors in God's word...GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.

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quote: Originally posted by God4me
Protestants aren't Christians are like the catholics are going to hell.
There is only One Church, And that is the born again Christians.
catholics don't oppose homosexual acts, Doubt_at_large siad there are gays in the catholic church, Plus, It is a well known fact.
Interesting, all the protestantisms are also going to hell. Apparently that only leaves the Pentecostals. You've made an easy job of it then, for Christ. Prejudging as you do.
You are misinformed again about what the Catholic Church teaches about homosexual acts.
quote: Chastity and homosexuality
2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex.
It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained.
Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."142
They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.
2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible.
This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial.
They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity.
Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided.
These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.
2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity.
By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.
We do read however, that unchaste and noncelibate homosexuals and their agenda have infiltrated your denomination. Good luck removing that Scriptural heresy from your denomination in that pentecostalism refuses centralized control through the power of the bishopric.
In the same way that pentecostalism could not stop the heresy of Oneness, your denomination will splinter again over homosexuality.
Your denomination lacked / lacks prophetic vision in its understanding of the structure needed to fight off the heresies of the modern culture.
Edited by bwellmysoul on 06/12/2012 06:57:08
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quote: Originally posted by bwellmysoul
[quote]Originally posted by God4me Those who know the Bible, Know that no one will know when Jesus is coming back. So how can one put a date on it??.
Very catholic statement.
Which proves the pre-trib rapture, Because if the Church was to go through the tribulation, We will know exactly how long we'll have.
You're off in the weeds there.
And Christians don't put dates on the end of the world.
Oh, plenty have and do, falling for the Rapture trap theories. You aren't aware of the lastest?
It just proves that you don't know the Bible or the Christians beliefs.
What?
Where does the Bible say judgment happends at death. At death, The Christians go straight to heaven, 2 Cor 5: 1--8. Phil 1: 21--23.
You mean only the Pentecostals, or maybe some Pentecostals?
And the catholics go straight to hell until judgment day.
So... you do believe that there are 2 judgements. How very catholic an idea. Do you only realize the errors in your theology when other people point them out to you?
The Christians don't have a judgment day for their sins, Jesus has already taken our judgment.
That's very protestant thinking, and yet... you say you're different than those protestantisms.
catholics will be raised up from hell and judged for their sins, Then cast into the lack of fire.
I've heard your pronouncement mulitple times.
[1]Did Jesus, Or did He not say no one will know when He is coming??. Which proves the pre-trib rapture. TRUE Christians never put a date on Jesus coming, Because we don't know.
REMEMBER, You believe the pope's porkies and the catholic con-men rather than the Bible.
[2]There are no errors in my theology, Because I teach what the Bible says, And there is no errors in God's word...GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.
You may think you believe in the Bible. What you believe is your interpretation of the Bible. However, you won't and don't understand what the Apostles taught the Early Church.
The Early Church wasn't following your protestant interpretation of Sacred Scripture.
Edited by bwellmysoul on 06/12/2012 09:03:48
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Pentecostals & Homosexuals – Peas in a Pod?
quote: Yet, what distinguishes Pentecostals from other conservative, evangelical groups is their intense belief in the ongoing work of the Holy Spirit.
They never “gave up” on what scripture refers to as the “gifts of the Spirit” such as healing, prophecy, speaking in tongues and interpreting tongues.
Moreover, although they strongly affirm the Bible as the inerrant word of God, they also are open to the ongoing revelatory work of the Spirit.
Thus, back in the 1970's in our Pentecostal community, when it became clear that the Spirit had anointed women to be preachers and to lead the church, we went with it despite the scriptural injunctions against women speaking in church or holding positions of leadership.
Those passages were interpreted “in their context” – meaning that they held for Timothy’s community in Ephesus at that particular time, place and situation in the first century.
http://blog.chron.com/talkingtolerance/2010/02/pentecostals-homosexuals-peas-in-a-pod/
OUCH!
A prophetic church would have seen this one coming, a mile off!
Edited by bwellmysoul on 06/12/2012 09:39:56
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