Was the rich man in hell or purgatory
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What do catholics believe the place called "Hell" in Lk 16: 23--24 is??I've heard some catholics say it is hell, and others say it is purgatory...SO MUCH FOR THE ONE CHURCH & ONE FAITH.So, catholics on this forum, Where do you believe it is???.
Originally posted by God4me
There you go AGAIN..TELLING LIES.
It's a good job your already going to hell.
Same worn-out juvenile reply - just a different time and day, blah, blah, blah.
Jesus gave the keys to all His followers, Not just Peter.
He gave them to the Church,
"I will build My Church, And the gates of hell shall not prevail against it, And I will give you [The Church] The keys".
Please keep it in it's right context.
Wow, and you say we "twist" Scripture.
Why would Jesus give the keys to a man who is a stone that is easily moved or shaken??..WAKE UP.
For the same reason God the Father appointed Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Joshua, and David to offices of authority.
Is your belief in God so small that you can't believe that God can work through one individual and change the world?
Jesus never gave His Apostles the authority to remit sins, He gave them the declaration authority to tell the repentant person that their sins are remmited.
Se Lk 24: 47,
"Repentance and remmision should be preached".
When a person repents, Their sins are remited, And the Apstles, Or any Christian can tell the repented person that their sins are remited.
That all Jesus meant when He said, "Who's sins you remit".
Your denomination (and all other denominations) have developed man-made doctrine concerning the authority to forgive mortal sin and they have all come up with the wrong answer.
There is no such office as a priest in the New Testament Church, Other then the fact that every Christian is a priest unto God.
GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.
There's no priest in Pentecostalism because Luther revisioned Sacred Scripture to invent himself new doctrine. Prior to Luther's death, there were already 40 different denominations (all with their own version and revisioning of Sacred Scripture).
There you go again, TELLING LIES, YOU NAUGHTY WICKED EVIL HELL BOUND MAN.
If you believe that Jesus compleated salvation, Why do you have to do penance, indugencies, works of satisfaction and have to go through purgatoty??.
I believe that Christ finished the work of our Redemption. We are redeemed. The fact remains that we must cooperate with that redemption in order to be saved. If we do not cooperate we damn ourselves. It's about the grace Christ won for us on the cross. We are saved by GRACE.
If we are saved by grace, our actions must be a result of that grace, we were made to do the work God has ordained for us. I have no idea what you mean concerning "works of satisfication" and the subject of indulgences is definitely another thread which you would not be able to comprehend;because you have a very limited understanding of the authority Jesus gave His apostles.
catholics teach that we they are saved by what Jesus did AND their works, You add your own works..SO STOP TELLING LIES.
Here you go lying again..you hypocrite. Catholics do not teach this.I suggest you read the documents from the council of Trent again and try to understand them instead of twisting them as you do Holy Writ. Works are nothing more than the result of the grace of God within us. The Holy Trinity resides within those who are "baptised" and who follow Christ's commandments;"Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul,and with all thy mind. This is the first and greatcommandment." (Matthew 22:37-38 KJV)"And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. (Matthew 22:39-40 KJV)
If Jesus did it all, What do we have to do?? MAKE UP YOUR MIND.
First you say Jesus compleated salvation, then you say you have to somthing.
Because we share the gospel to others according to what we do more so than what we say. Check out the Pharisees you hypocrite.
The Bible says we are saven by grace through faith, NOT BY WORKS, Lest any man should boast.
Yet the catholics say, NO..NO..The Bible is wrong and the catholic church [Who teach works for salvation]is right.
The Catholic Church does not say this you liar. You repeat this lie over and over purposely which shows that you are not a follower of Christ. You are more like the Pharisees who perverted God's Word to make themselves BIG among men.
Then you ask why I malign the catholic church...WAKE UP.
If you can't see the difference between the Bible and the catholic teachings, You really have been blinded by the devil.
You are the one blinded by the devil. You believe without question a belief tradition that goes back a mere century. And then you add your own infantile rationalizations to make up for the faults inherent in that theology. You really are a wretch. I know now why the Catholic Church defines "invincible ignorance". I suggest you look it up.
OMG,How can any belief even say they believe in the Holy Trinity without believing in the Catholic church? You would not know what the Holy Trinity was if it wasn't for the church none of the Protestant religions would know crap! Wake up accuser of the brethren, and smell the ashes,before your butt is a sling!
Here scarecrow want to play with fire???
Act of Contrition
O my God, I am heartily sorry for
having offended you, and I detest
all my sins, because of Your just
punishments, but most of all because
they offend You, my God, who are
all-good and deserving of all my love.
I firmly resolve, with the help of
Your grace, to sin no more and to
avoid the near occasion of sin.
You got one shot in this life better make it your best shot!Jesus said 70x70,your running out of ammo,go hide your face for the angel of the Lord will recompense!! B3