Can you prove through history what is truth?
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Can anyone really prove through history that the Catholic church is really the church of Jesus Christ? Can anyone disprove this and with facts??? I need real proof because I am about to die inside of me:( Show me!!
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THERE YOU GO AGAIN, Twisting what God is saying.
You diliberately left out, V17. NAUGHTY.
this is why bible thumpers are not to be trusted. hiding behind that left out verse again g4? what do you think it changes about what i posted.. do you think this means that you can not think godliness is a means to financial gain? if not then your point is pointless. (that's normal for you).. anyway i didn't leave anything out.. it had nothing to do with your twisting of the word of god.
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You cannot get away from the fact that God never changes, And He has made an everlasting covenant, And He has covenanted Himself to be our provider, The God who is more then enough, The God who gives us the power to get rich, So He can establish His covenatnt.
i have never tried to get away from that fact g4. i just don't see your conclusion as being biblical or valid. god isn't giving out power to get rich.. that's the devil who does that. jesus was even offered the world and said "get away from me satan" and that is what i tell the "word of faith" crew. the gospel isn't a get rich quick scheme so stop treating it like one.
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I for one won't hinder God blessing me abundantly with wealth.
Gal 3: 9, says we [The TRUE born again believers] are blessed with Abraham, And Gos blessed Abraham with ALL THINGS, In gold and silver.
We need to bring that into todays culture, And know that God will blessus financially.
Those who believe , And Receive, Those who doubt do without.
oh i won't hinder god blessing me either.. i'm just not going to build a doctrine on it. not am i going to try and bring any such think into our culture.. i'm more concerned that a person has faith than riches, that a person can be blessed even when they aren't rich. you so in love with the ways of the world i'm surprised that you even think about calling yourself a christian.. maybe you should go preach amway?
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All you have proved is, Either You don't know the Bible, Or you don't believe it.
Knowing you, I'd say both.
you don't know me so i'll excuse your ignorance as i always do. dimitte nobis debitta nostra, sicut et nos dimittimus debitoribus nostris. (if you really spoke in tongues you won't need to look that up)
You could have saved all that writing and just said you don't believe the Bible, Because thats what you meant.
You don't believe Deur 8: 18.
You say that is the devil, Not God.
You really are inspired by the devil, That's because you have lost your salvation.
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Besides the fact that humility is central to the entire Incarnation...
Matthew 19:21 Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
not only does the word of faith completely ignore this scripure (those naugthty men) but they teach others to ignore it as well by hiding behind stewardship. i have heard right over the pulpit that giving to a beggar is bad stewardship... i took their advice though.. i didn't give anything when the collection basket went around.. i figure if your gonna preach about living by faith then STOP BEGGING!
HEY, [Missed heaven mike] STOP TELLING LIES, YOU NAUGHTY MAN.
Even people who don't agree with the word of faith teachings, Admit they give scriptures for what they teach.
I bet you mis-interpretd what that man said, There are some times when you don't give to a beggar, Because all he wants money for is booze or drugs, So we have to be wise.
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oh really? mormons give scriptures for what they teach to. the circumcision group paul dealt with gave scriptures for what they preached too. anyone can manipulate the scriptures g4, your proof of that. but because they ignore the scripture, like you, they miss the actual meaning of it. they lack a valid tradition to explain those scriptures and so wallow in private interpretation, like you. and when they get challenged they push for the "infallible" claim, cause god forbid they might be wrong. it has been the laughing stock of all protestantism that they reject the papacy only to make popes of themselves. i say this is funny because they don't even see their hypocricy and neither do you.
and no i didn't mis interpret what that man said.. or the others who also repeated it.. just like i wont misinterpret you for saying the same thing. you judge the man as wanting money to buy booze and drugs and so justify your own greed. you make your own excuses to not give and use stewardship as a divice for your greed. we do have to be wise, but wise enought to know that we aren't psychics. not to mention if your afraid they might spend it on booze then do the christian thing and take him a sandwich or take them to lunch... to be honest i don't even care if they do buy booze with it. cause in reality i'm not giving money to a beggar but to god.. it's no different than giving money to televangelists or pentacostals who just want it to get rich with.
You did mis-interpret me,, If you know a beggar wants money for booz or drugs, You don't give to him.
Or if the Holy Spirit tells you that the man only wants money for booze or drugs, You don't give him any.
A beggar came up to me and asked for money for a meal, So I offered to take him in for a meal, But he said, No, don't bother.
He didn't want food, He wanted booze or drugs.
And that was problebly what the man you heard was saying.
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I once went to a church to see if this would be the church I wanted to go to.The pastor was nice and his family but one day he was up at the pulpit and said there were some young people here this week begging me for food and car gas and I plain up front asked them "Do you work?" NO! Then you get nothing from me, nothing! And I sent them on their way. I found this heartless and never came back to his church as I know the Lord loves a cherful giver and we are not to be unfair, he never even herd their story just snaped and made his rightous decison they did not work, they did not eat! By the way he did not work either! B3
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Edited by baby3 on 05/06/2012 16:46:29
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