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This teaching covers everything you need to know about the gospel and why there is so many anti gospel churchs and anti gospel christians and religious people!http://www.awmi.net/extra/audio/righteousnessPlease listen to this and give your commits on this awesome teaching more... I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Great. So you admit that sins other than just renouncing Jesus can lead us into Hell.
No one can belong to Satan and still belong to Christ.
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"There are some in the Church, who not only do not do what is good, but even persecute it, and hate in others what they neglect to do themselves. The sin of these men is not that of infirmity or ignorance, but deliberate willful sin." — Pope St. Gregory the Great (AD 540-604)
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Great. So you admit that sins other than just renouncing Jesus can lead us into Hell.
No one can belong to Satan and still belong to Christ.
NO! a sinner or unbeliever has all thier sins added to them and you are correct you can't be a sinner and a righteous person or luke warm at the same time!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Where does it say that in the Bible? And why do you keep bringing up "luke warm"? There is not a single luke warm Christian on this forum.
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"There are some in the Church, who not only do not do what is good, but even persecute it, and hate in others what they neglect to do themselves. The sin of these men is not that of infirmity or ignorance, but deliberate willful sin." — Pope St. Gregory the Great (AD 540-604)
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Where does it say that in the Bible? And why do you keep bringing up "luke warm"? There is not a single luke warm Christian on this forum.
That is true, and either you are who you are a sinner or a saved Christian, so which one are you?
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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I am a born again Christian and all that this entails according to the Scriptures. Always have been.
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"There are some in the Church, who not only do not do what is good, but even persecute it, and hate in others what they neglect to do themselves. The sin of these men is not that of infirmity or ignorance, but deliberate willful sin." — Pope St. Gregory the Great (AD 540-604)
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I am a born again Christian and all that this entails according to the Scriptures. Always have been.
So why you said you are a sinner and not say this from the beginner even when you fall short and sin??
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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I never ceased to be that. Why did you doubt?
And why is it OK for a Pentecostal to admit that they are a sinner, but not a Catholic?
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"There are some in the Church, who not only do not do what is good, but even persecute it, and hate in others what they neglect to do themselves. The sin of these men is not that of infirmity or ignorance, but deliberate willful sin." — Pope St. Gregory the Great (AD 540-604)
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I never ceased to be that. Why did you doubt?
And why is it OK for a Pentecostal to admit that they are a sinner, but not a Catholic?
I am a pentecostal as such but never I would say I am a sinner like you do!
i am a righteous believing christian evangelist!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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I gave you the example of a hypothetical Pentecostal woman who confessed that she was a sinner and asked Jesus to forgive her sins. You said that what she was doing was a good thing.
She did the EXACT same thing that I did. Different rules? That makes you a respector of persons.
Paul said he was the foremost of sinners. You stood up for him and gave plenty of examples of why he was still good with God, and yet you were quick to condemn me to Hell for the exact same thing and to beg me to get born again so that I could be saved.
Until you learn to stop making up special rules for Catholics and different rules for Pentecostals, then don't go calling yourself a righteous believing Christian Evangelist. You need to clean up your act.
I won't go as far as to tell you to get born again to be saved. One can only be born again once and it doesn't just fall off when someone is not behaving perfectly.
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"There are some in the Church, who not only do not do what is good, but even persecute it, and hate in others what they neglect to do themselves. The sin of these men is not that of infirmity or ignorance, but deliberate willful sin." — Pope St. Gregory the Great (AD 540-604)
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I gave you the example of a hypothetical Pentecostal woman who confessed that she was a sinner and asked Jesus to forgive her sins. You said that what she was doing was a good thing.
She did the EXACT same thing that I did. Different rules? That makes you a respector of persons.
Paul said he was the foremost of sinners. You stood up for him and gave plenty of examples of why he was still good with God, and yet you were quick to condemn me to Hell for the exact same thing and to beg me to get born again so that I could be saved.
Until you learn to stop making up special rules for Catholics and different rules for Pentecostals, then don't go calling yourself a righteous believing Christian Evangelist. You need to clean up your act.
I won't go as far as to tell you to get born again to be saved. One can only be born again once and it doesn't just fall off when someone is not behaving perfectly.
The rulles and God principle goes for all not just my religion or churchy!
Either you are a righteous person or you are a sinner regardless of your actions before God as such which judge you to a hell or heaven!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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For now, let us drop the matter. You don't understand and do not even see your hypocrisy.
Let us focus on some of the other threads and see if we can whittle down the number of them so we can focus on the basics.
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"There are some in the Church, who not only do not do what is good, but even persecute it, and hate in others what they neglect to do themselves. The sin of these men is not that of infirmity or ignorance, but deliberate willful sin." — Pope St. Gregory the Great (AD 540-604)
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For now, let us drop the matter. You don't understand and do not even see your hypocrisy.
Let us focus on some of the other threads and see if we can whittle down the number of them so we can focus on the basics.
For this thread i can see what we are discussing it doesn't fit, as you being a sinner!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Don't call me a sinner unless you see me sinning. What you are doing is calumny - a sin of bearing false witness against your neighbour.
I am not continually in a state of sin. I have said so many times. So stop being a sinner yourself. Cease the sin of bearing false witness until you have proven your base premise in the Romans 6 thread.
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"There are some in the Church, who not only do not do what is good, but even persecute it, and hate in others what they neglect to do themselves. The sin of these men is not that of infirmity or ignorance, but deliberate willful sin." — Pope St. Gregory the Great (AD 540-604)
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Don't call me a sinner unless you see me sinning. What you are doing is calumny - a sin of bearing false witness against your neighbour.
I am not continually in a state of sin. I have said so many times. So stop being a sinner yourself. Cease the sin of bearing false witness until you have proven your base premise in the Romans 6 thread.
I just repeated what you called yourself a sinner!
I am the one who said I would be happy to hear who Jesus and the Holy spirit if you are born again and now saved the righteousness of Christ a daughter in Christ Jesus remember??
So you are the one who was bearing false witness against yourself!
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I may or may not believe coming forward is a necessary condition for salvation. But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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Evangelist,
Your bravado would be a touch more convincing if you could name more than one mortal sin.
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