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Some posters here deny that Mary is Ever Virgin. They allege she had other children ... and they also lean on the word "Till".Now, who are Mary's other children? And does the word "Till" always mean that something that did not happen up to that point, later happened?Please more...
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quote: Originally posted by Kamati
quote: Originally posted by God4me
[1]I hace shown you that we cannot add to the God's word, [Which is now recorded in the Bible.
The question you will never even try to answer is: where does the Bible say that God’s word is now recorded in the Bible? What do you make of Paul saying we should follow both the written and the oral teachings of the Church?
quote: Originally posted by God4me
[2]Of cause the Apostles and Prophets received revel;ations from God and recorded them in what we know as the Bible.. WAKE UP.
That shows, once again, how ignorant you really are. Apostles did not sit down to record the revelation in the Bible. It was the Church that (hundreds of years after the apostles) collected writings that reflected Church teaching and placed them in one volume, what we now know as the Bible.
quote: Originally posted by God4me
You are silly, The The early Church,The Apostels & Prophets recorded God's word and put them in what we now call the Bible, And the Church taught what they was revealed to them.
No, apostles and prophets did no such a thing. Apostles and prophets did record God’s word but they did not “put them in what we now call the Bible". That only shows that you have no clue how the Bible came about.
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I never contradicted myself, STIOP TELLING LIES.
On the one hand you are saying that Church teaching was recorded in the Bible, but on the other hand you say Church teaching reflects what the Bible teaches. That is a blatant contradiction, but it seems you are unable to detect any contradictions in your arguments. If Church teaching is recorded in the Bible, then what is written in the Bible reflects church teaching. The more you disagree, the more look really dumb.
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[4]The Holy Spirit does guide the Church, But He does it by the Word of God, [The Bible].
Holy Spirit is God, but you make Him subordinate to the Bible. By the way, where does the Bible say “the Holy Spirit does guide the Church, but He does it by the Word of God, [The Bible]”?
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[5]I see your one of those devil minded people who believe false prophets can do sign& wonder, But not God's people.
No, I did not say God’s people can not do signs and wonders. That is a deliberate distortion of what I said. What I said is that signs and wonders are specifically mentioned as a satanic way to deceive people. Now, you actually believe that Jesus is one of those “devil minded people” who believe that false prophets can do signs and wonders. Jesus said: “False messiahs and false prophets will arise, and they will perform signs and wonders so great as to deceive, if that were possible, even the elect” (Matthew 24:24). When someone distorts the Bible, opposes Christ’s Church and claims to perform signs and wonders, then we know that those signs and wonders are from the devil. God4me also believes that Paul was one of those “devil minded” people because Paul talks about Satan-inspired “signs and wonders that lie” meant to deceive those who are perishing “because they have not accepted the love of truth so that they may be saved”.
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You are being sillly, telling lies are showing your ignorance of the truth.
Telling lies can be a sign of ignorance of the truth, but it can also be a Satan-inspired hatred of the truth. In your specific case both cases are true. Where you know the truth, you hate it and try to disfigure it, but there are also cases where you lie simply because you do not know the truth and do not try to find it.
STOP TELLING LIES.

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quote: Originally posted by Kamati
Hi God4me,
Back to the original topic:
1. Do you believe that Virgin Mary had children named James, Joseph, Simon and Jude?
2. And do you also believe that Virgin Mary’s sister had children named James, Joseph and Jude?
3. If the “original Greek” for sister means fraternal sister, how was it possible for Virgin Mary to have a fraternal sister who is also named Mary?
4. If the “original Greek” for brother means fraternal brother, why is Abraham called Lot’s brother?
5. If “firstborn” implies a second child, why does the Bible talk about firstborns who were one month old?
I will now wait and see how many of those five questions you will try to answer in an honest manner.
STOP TWISTING THE BIBLE.
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quote: STOP TWISTING THE BIBLE.
Scripture Twister, take a Sacred Catholic book and reform it through "Sola Scriptura".
You and your personal interpretations.
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quote: Originally posted by God4me
quote: Originally posted by Kamati
Hi God4me,
Back to the original topic:
1. Do you believe that Virgin Mary had children named James, Joseph, Simon and Jude?
2. And do you also believe that Virgin Mary’s sister had children named James, Joseph and Jude?
3. If the “original Greek” for sister means fraternal sister, how was it possible for Virgin Mary to have a fraternal sister who is also named Mary?
4. If the “original Greek” for brother means fraternal brother, why is Abraham called Lot’s brother?
5. If “firstborn” implies a second child, why does the Bible talk about firstborns who were one month old?
I will now wait and see how many of those five questions you will try to answer in an honest manner.
STOP TWISTING THE BIBLE.
LEARN CORRECT GRAMMAR!
Through bigotry prejudices false assumptions & false premises Protestants are protesting a catholic church made up by Protestantism that does not actually exist.
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quote: Originally posted by God4me
[1]Jesus gives Pastor's, Eph 4: 11. And God sets them in the Church, 1 Cor 12: 28.
Yes, but those the pastors of Christ’s Church are appointed, not self-appointed. I wonder whether you know the difference.
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At least we do have God given Ministers in our Church, Not like the catholics.
No, you have self-appointed ministers, rebels against God-given ministers. But what is really funny is that you look at the title and that is it. If someone calls himself pastor then, for you, that is enough. If a sect calls itself Pentecostal then, for you, that is enough even if, in reality, such a sect has no connection with Pentecost and was founded almost 2000 years after the fact.
quote: Originally posted by God4me
[2]As for the rest of your post, STOP TELLING LIES.
Thank you. “Stop telling lies” simply means "sorry, God4me has no answer".
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quote: Originally posted by bwellmysoul
quote: STOP TWISTING THE BIBLE.
Scripture Twister, take a Sacred Catholic book and reform it through "Sola Scriptura".
You and your personal interpretations.
[1]There are no sacred catholic books, They are all man made false doctrines.
[1]Since when has my telling you what the Bible and the original Greek says, Been my own personal interpretations??, WAKE UP.
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quote: Originally posted by Kamati
quote: Originally posted by God4me
[1]Jesus gives Pastor's, Eph 4: 11. And God sets them in the Church, 1 Cor 12: 28.
Yes, but those the pastors of Christ’s Church are appointed, not self-appointed. I wonder whether you know the difference.
quote: Originally posted by God4me
At least we do have God given Ministers in our Church, Not like the catholics.
No, you have self-appointed ministers, rebels against God-given ministers. But what is really funny is that you look at the title and that is it. If someone calls himself pastor then, for you, that is enough. If a sect calls itself Pentecostal then, for you, that is enough even if, in reality, such a sect has no connection with Pentecost and was founded almost 2000 years after the fact.
quote: Originally posted by God4me
[2]As for the rest of your post, STOP TELLING LIES.
Thank you. “Stop telling lies” simply means "sorry, God4me has no answer".
[1]Of cause the Patsors are appointed by God,And I don't know of one self appointed Pastor, And unlike the catholics, I do know the difference. catholics have devil inspired man made ministers, Such as pope's, un-Biblical bishops and priests, Where does the Bible mention pope's and priests??.
[2]You wrote, [Quote] No, you have self-appointed ministers, rebels against God-given ministers. But what is really funny is that you look at the title and that is it. If someone calls himself pastor then, for you, that is enough. If a sect calls itself Pentecostal then, for you, that is enough even if, in reality, such a sect has no connection with Pentecost and was founded almost 2000 years after the fact.
And, Thank you. “Stop telling lies” simply means "sorry, God4me has no answer". [End quote].
STOP TELLING LIES.

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quote: Originally posted by God4me
[1]There are no sacred catholic books, They are all man made false doctrines.
[1]Since when has my telling you what the Bible and the original Greek says, Been my own personal interpretations??, WAKE UP.
Knock knock, anyone home. Please wake up and locate your Pentecostal canon from history.
You determine (absent the Apostolic Church) how Scripture should be understood - via the 16th Century deformation.
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quote: Originally posted by God4me
[1]Of cause the Patsors are appointed by God, And I don't know of one self appointed Pastor, And unlike the catholics, I do know the difference.
Your own pastor is self-appointed or he was appointed by someone who was appointed by someone who was self-appointed. Just follow the story of your sect to its very beginning and there you would find a self-appointed pastor who is nothing more nothing less than a disobedient heretic.
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catholics have devil inspired man made ministers, Such as pope's, un-Biblical bishops and priests, Where does the Bible mention pope's and priests?
I will gladly show you where the Bible mentions the Pope and the priests immediately after you have shown me where the Bible mentions “Bible” (note, Bible = a collection of 66 Holy books, in your case). Will you ever stop being a hypocrite? Why reject the Pope and priests because they are supposedly not mentioned in the Bible, yet you idolize the bible that is not mentioned in the Bible either.

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quote: Originally posted by God4me
[1]Since when has my telling you what the Bible and the original Greek says, Been my own personal interpretations??, WAKE UP.
When the original Greek says Abraham was Lot's brother you do not interpret it as being fraternal brother; but when the original Greek says James, Joseph, Simon and Jude were Jesus' brothers you interpret it as being fraternal brothers. So you decide when the original Greek word for brother (adelphos) means fraternal brother and when it means something else.
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quote: Originally posted by bwellmysoul
quote: Originally posted by God4me
[1]There are no sacred catholic books, They are all man made false doctrines.
[1]Since when has my telling you what the Bible and the original Greek says, Been my own personal interpretations??, WAKE UP.
Knock knock, anyone home. Please wake up and locate your Pentecostal canon from history.
You determine (absent the Apostolic Church) how Scripture should be understood - via the 16th Century deformation.
Knock knock, anyone home. Please wake up and locate your catholic canon from history.
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quote: Originally posted by Kamati
quote: Originally posted by God4me
[1]Of cause the Patsors are appointed by God, And I don't know of one self appointed Pastor, And unlike the catholics, I do know the difference.
Your own pastor is self-appointed or he was appointed by someone who was appointed by someone who was self-appointed. Just follow the story of your sect to its very beginning and there you would find a self-appointed pastor who is nothing more nothing less than a disobedient heretic.
quote: Originally posted by God4me
catholics have devil inspired man made ministers, Such as pope's, un-Biblical bishops and priests, Where does the Bible mention pope's and priests?
I will gladly show you where the Bible mentions the Pope and the priests immediately after you have shown me where the Bible mentions “Bible” (note, Bible = a collection of 66 Holy books, in your case). Will you ever stop being a hypocrite? Why reject the Pope and priests because they are supposedly not mentioned in the Bible, yet you idolize the bible that is not mentioned in the Bible either.
[1]Our Pastors aren't self appointed, STOP TELLING LIES, See Eph 4: 11. And 1 cor 12: 28.
Jesus gives our Pastors, and God sets them in the Church.
But where does the Bible mention pope's??, The catholic type of bishop??. and priest, Other then every born again Christian is a priest unto God.
[2] You said, [Quote]. I will gladly show you where the Bible mentions the Pope and the priests immediately after you have shown me where the Bible mentions “Bible” (note, Bible = a collection of 66 Holy books, in your case). Will you ever stop being a hypocrite? Why reject the Pope and priests because they are supposedly not mentioned in the Bible, yet you idolize the bible that is not mentioned in the Bible either. [End quote]
You are being silly.

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quote: Originally posted by Kamati
quote: Originally posted by God4me
[1]Since when has my telling you what the Bible and the original Greek says, Been my own personal interpretations??, WAKE UP.
When the original Greek says Abraham was Lot's brother you do not interpret it as being fraternal brother; but when the original Greek says James, Joseph, Simon and Jude were Jesus' brothers you interpret it as being fraternal brothers. So you decide when the original Greek word for brother (adelphos) means fraternal brother and when it means something else.
You are being silly, And wrongly intereting the scriptures, You area a typical catholic.
Just like the word, "Save", It doesn't just mean salvation from sin. It means, among others, SAVED FROM SIN, Matt 1: 21. SAVED FROM THE SEA, Matt 14: 30. HEALED, Lk 18: 42. And you have to put it in it's right context.
Which catholics never do.
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quote: Originally posted by God4me Knock knock, anyone home. Please wake up and locate your catholic canon from history.
Still hunting for the Pentecostal canon from the Early Church?
What did they teach you in your Bible college, that your Bible began around the time of Jesus and then dropped out of the sky in the 1500s?
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