In an interview with Laura Ingraham, who was filling in for Tucker Carlson on Fox News, former Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer said Thursday that there is evidence that Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) -- a former chair of the Democratic National Committee -- used Imran Awan for "malevolent activities" and "manipulative things" against Sen. Bernie Sanders during the 2016 Democratic primary race. Awan was arrested this week while trying to fly to his native Pakistan, where he hoped to join his wife. An IT specialist, he had worked for 31 House Democrats including Wasserman Schultz. With his brothers and a friend, Awan earned millions in taxpayer money while providing IT services to Members of Congress. He is now facing charges of bank fraud, but may see further charges involving theft and cyber-crime.
Shaffer spoke about Awan's who worked on Capitol Hill, and said that Awan was paid 3 times the average Congressional IT employee. One of Awan’s brothers may have put sensitive information on the Internet ‘cloud’ and potentially exposed it to “outside sources.” Awan and his confreres had access to emails exchanged by Members of the House Intelligence Committee. He was arrested on Monday at Dulles International Airport after wiring hundreds of thousands of dollars to Pakistan.
Here follows a transcript of the conversation between Ingraham and Shaffer:
LAURA INGRAHAM: What happens when a Congressional staffer with close ties to a top Democrat and access to sensitive hard drives gets caught wiring $300,000 to Pakistan and then is arrested trying to flee the country? Sounds like a pretty fascinating story. But if you're in the American media, they're not much interested.
Former DNC chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz kept Imran Awan on her payroll for months, even as he was being investigated by the Capitol Police for a host of possible crimes. She even tried to hinder that investigation, but our intrepid press has shown little interest in the story. Tony Shaffer is a retired U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel, he joins us, and he has been following this case.
This is wild. I watched CNN earlier today. I'm jetlagged, so I needed something that would put me to sleep temporarily. So I had it on, and the guy, I don't remember the reporter's name, but he reported it by saying "there were these conspiracy theories out there about this Debbie Wasserman Schultz staffer" who basically is just in trouble for some bad checks, for some bank fraud, it's just a conspiracy theory. Implying that people like you who have been covering this and have been looking into it are the conspiracy theorists.
LT. COL. TONY SHAFFER, U.S. ARMY (RET): This is more like a Quentin Tarantino movie with everything except a gimp, and I think the gimp will show up... Look, this is complex, but let me try to simplify. Basically, Debbie Wasserman Schultz employed three brothers who are of Pakistani origin at three times the salary of everybody else who does I.T. on Capitol Hill. This all started years ago.
INGRAHAM: They must be really good at their jobs.
SHAFFER: Apparently, they failed at working at Best Buy and other places, so I guess if you fail at Best Buy you get to be hired by the Hill.
INGRAHAM: Were they at Best Buy?
SHAFFER: I can't remember which one, it was one of those outlets. Now, what happened though is that she has employed those folks, and over the past years, there's been real issues regarding the fact that every other Democrat person they worked for on the Hill fired them. But they were retained by her. Now, what is really key here to remember, Laura, is not about hard drives. It's about the fact that these individuals, during a time they worked for her on Capitol Hill, and her position as a member of Congress --
INGRAHAM: Three brothers, Pakistani origin, which is not in and of itself a bad thing.
SHAFFER: -- had massive access to all databases to include e-mail of members of Congress, super user access to the system itself, and most importantly the sensitive information being held by the House Foreign Affairs Committee and other committees that they had access to. What this all comes down to is like, okay, you can have all that, but what gets worse is she actually employs these folks apparently to do hideous things behind the scenes.
There is evidence now that a least one of these brothers was helping her do the Bernie Sanders malevolent activities, trying to manipulative things against him that actually helped her do things like voice change calls, they actually did all other things which and then --
INGRAHAM: Who are these characters? Who are they?
SHAFFER: And then they dumped -- then there's evidence some of the information they had access to dumped off into a third database that's actually being called a breach. That's why the Capitol Hill Police rolled in saying there's something wrong here.
Now the FBI has rolled in and let me give you the big take away here, it looks like a foreign intelligence service may be the recipient of all this. Something called the Muslim Brotherhood.
INGRAHAM: Whoa, whoa, whoa. The Muslim Brotherhood and Debbie? They are really going to say it's a conspiracy theory now.
SHAFFER: It's a conspiracy now, but that's apparently where all of this has been going. That's why the FBI has now been investigating.
INGRAHAM: These brothers have been kicking around Capitol Hill in various capacities for IT, but they essentially were blacklisted by most of the other Democrats. Correct?
SHAFFER: That's correct.
INGRAHAM: Yet she gave him a home. Very interesting.
SHAFFER: She gave them a home. And they actually suspended most of their access in February of this year and she kept them on anyway.
INGRAHAM: She's just a very nice person. Apparently, it's a jobs program over there at the DNC.
SHAFFER: $300,000 being kicked over to Pakistan finally was the straw that broke the camel's back.
INGRAHAM: The wife is gone, she's safely over there in Pakistan.